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Xasapis  5/30/08 3:17:54 AM

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To the OP:

I'm planning on buying Mass Effect for the PC. I never played the console version, but I heard good things about the game. Do you think that Mass Effect being a console RPG originally, makes it a bad game? Or to put it in your terms, it sucks?

 
demo3210  5/30/08 3:19:33 AM

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Have you played the game?  The game is relatively instanced, but not 100% so.  It's not like guildwars where there are like 40 instances.  There are up to a maximum of 5 different instances during prime time and as low as 1 or 2 during slower times. 

Designed to be a console game?  Hard to notice honestly.  Like some of the buttons are hard to deal with in combination with the combos, but onl because of finger spacing.  Honestly, get an N52 game pad or some type of special keyboard to play this game, but it still is a lot of fun even on PC.  I can't imagine playing the game on console right now and I have a 360.  I just have no idea how it would work, but hey i guess we'll see.

The bugs are really not that bad as of level 30.  I have barely encountered any...maybe 1 bug this entire time?

AI is not dumbed down.  If anything it is more complicated than most MMORPG's I have played and believe me when I say that I have played most of them in the past 6 years.  The AI is actualy relatively difficultif you're working with 2-3 person groups.  They are adaptive.

You obviously haven't played.  Don't be glad you canclled.  Give it a try!  I promise that if you liked games like Dungeon Siege or DIablo 2 with a little bit of a World of Warcraft PVP server feel, you'll do just fine.  There is a lot going on here and i really suggest geting into a guild.  It's a lot of fun!  I highly recommend this game to people who like to have a more realtime oriented gameplay versus a constant click and pick type of MMORPG.

shadenis  5/30/08 3:45:43 AM

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Originally posted by Umbral

 

Originally posted by shadenis

 

Originally posted by Umbral

 

Originally posted by dirtknap69

 

Originally posted by Smilex0311

 

Sold out?  Well, if you feel betrayed by Funcom because they are moving into consoles and attempting to grab a bigger slice of the pie which is online gaming then yeah, they sold out. 

I am pleased by this decision to move MMOs to the consoles.  Evolution baby!!  Its only a matter of time till MMOs are on the next gen consoles.  AoC is the first test.  If its a success then expect more to follow. 

 

I swear some of these fanboys are paid employees of Funcom.

 

who in their right mind would want a buggy, incomplete MMO that was designed for low-end common-denominator hardware over a polished, innovative MMO specifically tailored to the target platform's strengths?

 

if AoC is only going to be 50% of a PC game cause of its bugs & incompleteness, shouldn't we only be paying 50% of the regular price of an MMO?

 

There are a lot of reasons why all MMOS are bugged at the beggining, and the bigger reason is not the console gaming, is the PC gaming itself.

When you express your opinion about AoC, wich references are you taking? I mean, are you comparing the so "horrid" AoC to the incredible and polished  ...insert game here....

AoC is inovative, combat, atmosphere, no Walt Disney feeling... and FINALLY the only Low Fantasy MMO.

 

When a PC game is bugged, dont blame the consoles, blame the PC market.

...

 

it certainly doesn't look like a disneyland ride but it plays like a disneyland ride 100%.

 

EVE by example isn't a rollercoaster ride.

Age of conan is. Age of conan isn't a crappy game, it is a good game but i don't like it because it doesn't offer the challenge i am looking for. I do not look for hardcore mode, i look for a challenge and not for a E-Z/easy mode game. I am not interested in that since it is just doing tedious things and i do not like that.

 

That's why EVE is one of the best current mmo's in the market in my opinion.

aoc is a good game but it is more made for people who want instant gratification/no challenge and i am not lookin for that.

 

No mmo is a rollercoaster ride, you just need to look for a challenge in every mmo I played I found the easy part and the hard one, the problem is, most of players go for the easy way...

... about gratification, I really think a game isnt the right place to look for it.

See, most of mmos are easy in the first view, but you can make it harder and harder... it is the same with AoC, you can make your challenge and go for it, you can duo a full group dungeon, solo in a elite area etc.

But I agree EvE and AoC are both good games in a different way.

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I don't think you really understood it.

Themepark/rollercoaster rides is tagges as linear.

Age of conan is extremely linear, you must follow that path and questing is omost the only reason to level up, if you level, your character improves LINAER.  dungeons are linear , pvp = linear and pve is linear , it is all handled by the developers, even sieges. Players do not control lands or economy, Age of conan doesn't got open ended game play.

This is the rollercoaster ride . You have a park with some attractions, if it gets boring , the developers adds new attractions.

Aka: the linear formula.

EVE has the sandbox formula, a open ended game play experience, you can affect the galaxy , the economy, politics , pvp and much more.

AOC guids you.

EVE doesn't.

That's why i think in my opinion EVE is better since we already have the same old linear stuff ala WOW/eq2 and now AOC and we also have LOTRO but sandbox games only have EVE atm. But glad allot of sandbox/hybrid are being developer.

 

DAOC is a hybrid, both uses linear and sandbox game play, in my opinion, that is the best.

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UO,M59,EVE,L2,AC,GW,WOW,LOTRO,SWG pre cu/nge,COH/COV, VG,TR,L1, POTBS,Neocron 1 and 2, DAOC pre TOA and age of conan

playing: EVE ONLINE
Waiting for Earthrise, FE, bioware mmo, guild wars 2, DFO , mortal online , the chronicles of spellborn

shadenis  5/30/08 3:49:10 AM

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Originally posted by demo3210

Have you played the game?  The game is relatively instanced, but not 100% so.  It's not like guildwars where there are like 40 instances.  There are up to a maximum of 5 different instances during prime time and as low as 1 or 2 during slower times. 

Designed to be a console game?  Hard to notice honestly.  Like some of the buttons are hard to deal with in combination with the combos, but onl because of finger spacing.  Honestly, get an N52 game pad or some type of special keyboard to play this game, but it still is a lot of fun even on PC.  I can't imagine playing the game on console right now and I have a 360.  I just have no idea how it would work, but hey i guess we'll see.

The bugs are really not that bad as of level 30.  I have barely encountered any...maybe 1 bug this entire time?

AI is not dumbed down.  If anything it is more complicated than most MMORPG's I have played and believe me when I say that I have played most of them in the past 6 years.  The AI is actualy relatively difficultif you're working with 2-3 person groups.  They are adaptive.

You obviously haven't played.  Don't be glad you canclled.  Give it a try!  I promise that if you liked games like Dungeon Siege or DIablo 2 with a little bit of a World of Warcraft PVP server feel, you'll do just fine.  There is a lot going on here and i really suggest geting into a guild.  It's a lot of fun!  I highly recommend this game to people who like to have a more realtime oriented gameplay versus a constant click and pick type of MMORPG.

compared to the older mmorpg's and more complexer mmo's, it deffo looks like a bit of a console game.

compared to old school mmo's, complexer mmo's, AOC is a piece of cake and a simplistic mmorpg.

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the old days, the days of gold.

representer of euhporium, shade/amity , high member of the council.


played

UO,M59,EVE,L2,AC,GW,WOW,LOTRO,SWG pre cu/nge,COH/COV, VG,TR,L1, POTBS,Neocron 1 and 2, DAOC pre TOA and age of conan

playing: EVE ONLINE
Waiting for Earthrise, FE, bioware mmo, guild wars 2, DFO , mortal online , the chronicles of spellborn

spnart  5/30/08 4:27:00 AM

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Malvolentia  5/30/08 4:28:40 AM

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I can see how similar to a console game it is, but I haven't even looked back at WoW.  This game has the addictive quality to it and I'm enjoying it.

Console game or not it's good on the PC.

 
altairzq  5/30/08 5:04:29 AM

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Originally posted by Malvolentia

I can see how similar to a console game it is, but I haven't even looked back at WoW.  This game has the addictive quality to it and I'm enjoying it.

Console game or not it's good on the PC.

I'm not looking back at WoW and I'm not playing anything, you don't need much to not look back at WoW

 
Umbral  5/30/08 5:26:22 AM

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Originally posted by shadenis

 

Originally posted by Umbral

 

Originally posted by shadenis

 

Originally posted by Umbral

 

Originally posted by dirtknap69

 

Originally posted by Smilex0311

 

Sold out?  Well, if you feel betrayed by Funcom because they are moving into consoles and attempting to grab a bigger slice of the pie which is online gaming then yeah, they sold out. 

I am pleased by this decision to move MMOs to the consoles.  Evolution baby!!  Its only a matter of time till MMOs are on the next gen consoles.  AoC is the first test.  If its a success then expect more to follow. 

 

I swear some of these fanboys are paid employees of Funcom.

 

who in their right mind would want a buggy, incomplete MMO that was designed for low-end common-denominator hardware over a polished, innovative MMO specifically tailored to the target platform's strengths?

 

if AoC is only going to be 50% of a PC game cause of its bugs & incompleteness, shouldn't we only be paying 50% of the regular price of an MMO?

 

There are a lot of reasons why all MMOS are bugged at the beggining, and the bigger reason is not the console gaming, is the PC gaming itself.

When you express your opinion about AoC, wich references are you taking? I mean, are you comparing the so "horrid" AoC to the incredible and polished  ...insert game here....

AoC is inovative, combat, atmosphere, no Walt Disney feeling... and FINALLY the only Low Fantasy MMO.

 

When a PC game is bugged, dont blame the consoles, blame the PC market.

...

 

it certainly doesn't look like a disneyland ride but it plays like a disneyland ride 100%.

 

EVE by example isn't a rollercoaster ride.

Age of conan is. Age of conan isn't a crappy game, it is a good game but i don't like it because it doesn't offer the challenge i am looking for. I do not look for hardcore mode, i look for a challenge and not for a E-Z/easy mode game. I am not interested in that since it is just doing tedious things and i do not like that.

 

That's why EVE is one of the best current mmo's in the market in my opinion.

aoc is a good game but it is more made for people who want instant gratification/no challenge and i am not lookin for that.

 

No mmo is a rollercoaster ride, you just need to look for a challenge in every mmo I played I found the easy part and the hard one, the problem is, most of players go for the easy way...

... about gratification, I really think a game isnt the right place to look for it.

See, most of mmos are easy in the first view, but you can make it harder and harder... it is the same with AoC, you can make your challenge and go for it, you can duo a full group dungeon, solo in a elite area etc.

But I agree EvE and AoC are both good games in a different way.

...

I don't think you really understood it.

 

Themepark/rollercoaster rides is tagges as linear.

Age of conan is extremely linear, you must follow that path and questing is omost the only reason to level up, if you level, your character improves LINAER.  dungeons are linear , pvp = linear and pve is linear , it is all handled by the developers, even sieges. Players do not control lands or economy, Age of conan doesn't got open ended game play.

This is the rollercoaster ride . You have a park with some attractions, if it gets boring , the developers adds new attractions.