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MMORPG.com World of Warcraft Correspondent Robert Duckworth pens this article discussing Wintergrasp, a PvP zone that will be released with the launch of the game's upcoming Wrath of the Lich King expansion.

Lake Wintergrasp is a new PvP zone in the continent of Northrend that will be released with the upcoming expansion pack Wrath of the Lich King (WotLK). Unlike previous attempts by Blizzard to create smaller world PvP objectives, such as the city of Halaa in Nagrand or the Auchindoun Towers, Lake Wintergrasp is going to fill up an entire zone. While the past world PvP objectives created by Blizzard mostly ended in failure, it looks like they learned a good deal from them and will finally get it right with Lake Wintergrasp.

Check out the article here.

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If Blizzard know they failed misserably with the current World PVP zones, why don't they give them a revamp and make them viable again?

Or has WoW subscribers secretly plummeted and no new players coming to the game anymore and veteran players not bothering rolling alts either.

It's a shame really. As all the old zones were a masterpiece. And the current World PVP zones a complete waste.

Cheers

And the city raids? ... LOL ... if you put more than 40 man in StormWind or IronForge the servers crash!!! How become possible to create a new world PvP area if you put more than 100 player in the same "server map" and it goes down?

Blizzard could test this new area in the beta test server, but in real working server, will they "hold the rocket"?

I don't think so, as in Eve online, where u cant battle while the rate is 60Vs60 or above ... just warp, lag, and get other spaceship.

First they have to fix the infra-structure issue, then TRY to implement this feature( reads BUG, might ).

Just finishing ... this new concept of world pvp will, only, benefit those who have TIME to grind, not an adult oriented MMO.

Originally posted by Guillermo197

If Blizzard know they failed misserably with the current World PVP zones, why don't they give them a revamp and make them viable again?

Or has WoW subscribers secretly plummeted and no new players coming to the game anymore and veteran players not bothering rolling alts either.

It's a shame really. As all the old zones were a masterpiece. And the current World PVP zones a complete waste.

Cheers

 I think Blizzard still hasn't found a working dynamic for world PvP, so they don't really know how to revamp it.  Yes the previous attempts failed miserably but you have to applaud them for their persistence in trying to make it work.  It reads like they plan to implement more micro-processes into world pvp as opposed to cut and dry A yields B yields C tactics.  At least they are trying to find a format that works for world PvP as opposed to abandoning it all together.

I do agree about the old zones being masterpieces as those are the only zones I really know of.  (I quit just before TBC)  The world PvP around Black Rock Mountain escalated to a point that alliance/horde treaties had to be forged on the forums so either side could make progress towards defeating nefarion (sp?).  I also remember what it was like riding across the badlands dreading the idea of running into X,Y,Z member of the horde.  It really made for one helluva gaming experience.

Anyway, I believe Blizzard wouldn't hesitate to revamp world PvP zones if they could find a formula that maintained player interests.  I mean if the community can complain about classes and Blizz take the time to review/revamp each class surely they can do the same for a couple of pvp zones.  Actually thinking back, cries came up about alterac valley (sp?) battlegrounds and sweeping changes were made to it.

The introduction of BG and the obscene amount of honor points they awarded for them killed world pvp in WOW and there is no hope of bringing it back at this point. 

PVP in one zone of the world still doesnt qualify as world pvp. 

The only thing I would disagree with is why do PVPer's need to have incentives, they are always bitching there is no world PVP, well if incentives are why there is no world PVP then thats the PVPers fault and not the games. All pvpers bitch they just want to pvp, well then do it, plain and simple.

Here we go again. Blizzard is going to tell us how new and different and amazing this world PVP option will be (it's not world PVP just because it isn't instanced, btw but I digress) and the gaming press and blogs will repeat the line over and over again on how awesome this new and exciting PVP is, then it will be released and exactly no one will care.

Sure riding around on your own Fantasy Motorbike™ across the frozen lake will be fun the first two times you do it, but it will get mighty boring real quick. It's so sad to see Blizzard running scared of Warhammer Online. First the achievement system that was tacked on and now the "amazing world PVP". They might as well just start calling it RVR and make their Orcs say "WAAAAAGH" because WAR is going to eat WotLK alive.

Originally posted by rcokely

 

Sure riding around on your own Fantasy Motorbike™

God, don't get me started on the ridiculous motorcycle mount.  The stuff they are adding to this game is bordering on the absurd.