RF Online

grind game? u can make 40 lvl less than a week.. In other games like Lineage2 you have to play months if you whana be a good player..  try to play atleast till 30 lvl(first class) then you get stronger, and better.. hunt in party's, like me.. and you will need only 2 days to make that 30 lvl..    Then i tryed first time to play RFO, i thought the same as you guys.. grind, stupid, borring.. but I still played and found new friends, we hunted together.. and after a week, this game become my favorite... :)

A week consisting of how many hours sitting in front of your PC? Any game that requires me to kill mob after mob, whether for a quest or not, is what I consider to be a grind.

Let's take Guild Wars for example. Quests don't involve you having to kill X amount of Y. There are some very fun ones, such as participating in drinking contests, solving riddles and puzzles etc. And no, these aren't mini-games, these are actual quests...

I made it to level 43 with three different characters (all Bellatio).

I quit the game and erased it from my PC after, for the millionth time, a gang of 30 or so level 40+ bells spent close to 15 minutes pounding on a level 50 Accretian, who in the end simply force-logged.  Bullshit.

Pot-hacking, exclusively equipment-based, and forever-grinding game, where 6 or so level difference at higher levels means that the higher level WILL WIN.  Forget skill, forget all that happy crap!  This game is about achieving the highest level possible and then simply running around and killing everybody lower level than you for kill points.

 You do enjoy the sky-rocketing experience while leveling to about level 25.  After that - grindfest.  Mobs that give any kind of meaningful experience are for the most part located off-mainland, so you have to spend lots of hard earned cash on travel.  Once you get there - nine chances out of ten some high level people are simply waiting for you at the gates to gank you.  And, of course, you won't be able to do anything about it.  So...  you log off to play with your other character if that one is lucky enough to get exp on mainland.  You log back on to level up the higher level one - yay!  The gankers are gone!  And the grind fest begins...  The more (expensive) health potions you have, the more mobs you can handle.  Until you get ganked by a by-passing high level who is not worried about aggro from high level mobs surrounding your little camp area.

Forget this, plenty more games to occupy my free time with!!!

Originally posted by LIthos

Thanks guys.You saved me from a hella grind and a waste of time.<-------hey that ryhmed.(creepy)

Just curios as to what ryhmed there, or did I miss something?

Actually guys, I'd rather take a "Go five steps to the left and kill one million mobs"-quests than "Go to point B which is 30 mins from your location (point A), talk to NPC, go to point C which is 15 mins from previous location (point B), kill one pitboss which is only doable in a decent party, go back to point C, talk to NPC and then return to point A i.e. your original location and talk to NPC only to find out that you need to go to point D which is 45 mins from point A and talk to NPC for your reward"-quests. If unlike me, you like those long-ass running around quests, try Perfect World. ;)

But yeah, RFO definitely has too few quests. As for not enough cash for pots, I'd say you're doing something wrong, though I never reached lvl50 on CM servers so I don't know how's farming at that level there. I farmed my ass in "Chooty land" for most of my cash. Calianas were very generous. :P

Cheers.

Not all games have those quests either...as mentioned before, Guild Wars has instant travel, meaning you go from point A to point B in less than a minute.

I have to disagree with the general sentiment here.  RF Online is probably my favorite MMO.  Desipte all the problems Codemasters has caused for me over the years, I have to say that RF Online was designed very well.

The problem here is that many people here only have limited experience on the retail server.  I have to agree that, in that circumstance, RF could be another horrible grinding game.  If you find a private server (with 6x rates), though, RF can be wonderful.  Sure the quests are boring, but that's not much different from any other MMO, if you think about it.

On such a private server, it is possible to reach level 40 very quickly and actually enjoy the Chip wars, Pit Bosses, and higher level zones (without ever spending a dime on the game).  The PvP is excellent, though the unbalanced races, corrupt GMs, server lag, and poorly designed cash shops can ruin the fun after a while (if the admin doesn't know what he/she is doing).  Still, I strongly encourage people to give this game a try.  A simple google search for "Top RF Servers" or some such will give you plenty of servers to give a shot.

Oh, one last thing to mention.  If you play, the game is very heavily group oriented.  Try to get a friend or two to try it at the same time (preferrably taking a different class path).  Teamwork and race cooperation make all the difference.

One should one be forced to play on a private sever?

i got to level 31 in one night so around 8 hours i guess... lot's of complainers here.. this game is too ez  and i dunno why ur complaining about gear u get a full set of gear like every 3/5 levels