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rubydragon5  8/25/08 7:43:34 AM

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Before you read this, It is a serious topic, and I am voicing my opinions. I am not looking for a fight or any flames.

 

On the mmorpg.com they are giving away 9,000 beta accounts for  Chaos Online..

these are parts of the Game description:

"For example, you can cast your powerful spell when ridding on a modern motorcycle!"

"which is specialized in magnificent effects and expansibility"

 

At first its 100 Lineage 2 clones, now they are cloning this 2,5 D trash.

I am so sick of seeing clones of trash games being flooded onto the market

 

 I am a very open person when i comes to religion, race, creed, nationality etc...

I have jewish friends, I have african american friends, italian friends, I am friendly to whoever is friendly to me.

But that said I want everyone to understand that most people are judged by there first Impressions on someone.

When I see all these games that are being pumped out by Korean companies, and I get this nastalgic feeling from each game filled with bots, poor translation, cheap graphics, and words like SUPER Amazing fun rewards !

This is pretty much all I know of korean business and culture.

My first and only  impression of koreans is that they only care about stealing each others ideas and making money by trying to shove garbage down peoples throats.

How can i think differently when all thats shown to me is the complete negative aspects of a culture.

 

 
Loke666  8/25/08 7:50:01 AM

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Lol, i beta tested the first Linage and boy, did we hate Korean gankers. :)

but I know some koreans, nice people, it just that the playstyle there isn't the same as ours. And all koreans aren't morons when playing either.

Just relax, and if you gonna hate someone, hate him for what he does or says, not because where he's from.

 
Blistermix  8/25/08 7:56:54 AM

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I don't know weather this is on topic or off, but I will never play anther game with Elves in it again. This is do to being sick and f***ing tired of fantasy games. 

As far as the clone thing goes, MMOs are like Magic the gathering and all the card games that folloed it. There this great idea that came out of the starting gates flying. Now everyone is trying to milk the whole thing, Korean mostly because these games are far more popular over in Asia than hear. Lineage I & II are uber popular over there from what I hear. But yeah the Magic is gone. When WoW is done hear most of the MMO population these game clone spammers are trying to snag are just going to go back to the lives they had before WoW or what ever game they had, not pick a new one. So get used to a bunch of worthless clone's because thats all well see till MMos are out of vogue  with gamers.

Like I said when I started, not sure if thats on topic but it's my input. Blistermix of Bria.

 

 
Zayne3145  8/25/08 8:03:10 AM

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The trouble with a lot of Korean games is that they become lost in translation both literally and in terms of gameplay. I tend to shy away from Korean games (especially F2P) as the localisation is often extremely poor and the translation suffers. I'm a sucker for good dialogue and storyline, and if I come across 'all your base' type text I instantly know it's not the game for me. It just completely kills all immersion (unless you play for pure comedy value)

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dalmanus  8/25/08 8:03:18 AM

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I once worked for a Chinese guy in China as a graphic designer and he said he preferred Americans because unlike the Chinese, (and other asian cultures), Americans have a sense of creativity that they lack to the point that there is a shortage of artists in their country that really stick out, Americans are more open when it comes to Art in general. This is what he said and I was un-aware of this aspect, that being said of course the Olympics opening was very inspired art but when it comes to videogames I'd have to agree with this topic.

I think it's probably just a mentality that their raised with, selling bootleg CDs, DVDs, Software, and when it comes to original Games they fall short because they don't know how to be original, I am ready to stand corrected but I've yet to see a single breakthrough game come out of Korea, but asians in general are creative I mean Japan is a major player in the gaming market, and the Koreans have long been against the Japanese, so basically their opposites, it could have something to do with their restrictive government, give them more freedoms, take out  Jong-il and it would likely be much better off. And I wouldn't claim America releases only great games, there are tons of U.S. copycat companies churning out really bad stuff but the U.S. companies probably have much bigger budgets as opposed to the Koreans and so our graphics are likely always going to be better but I don't believe that graphics alone make a game great. My ideal mmorpg is a game that has a solid storyline with a puzzle based quest system and a great pvp system. Democracy equals better videogames.

 
SgtFrog  8/25/08 8:03:55 AM

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Originally posted by rubydragon5

Before you read this, It is a serious topic, and I am voicing my opinions. I am not looking for a fight or any flames.

 

On the mmorpg.com they are giving away 9,000 beta accounts for  Chaos Online..

these are parts of the Game description:

"For example, you can cast your powerful spell when ridding on a modern motorcycle!"

"which is specialized in magnificent effects and expansibility"

 

At first its 100 Lineage 2 clones, now they are cloning this 2,5 D trash.

I am so sick of seeing clones of trash games being flooded onto the market

 

 I am a very open person when i comes to religion, race, creed, nationality etc...

I have jewish friends, I have african american friends, italian friends, I am friendly to whoever is friendly to me.

But that said I want everyone to understand that most people are judged by there first Impressions on someone.

When I see all these games that are being pumped out by Korean companies, and I get this nastalgic feeling from each game filled with bots, poor translation, cheap graphics, and words like SUPER Amazing fun rewards !

This is pretty much all I know of korean business and culture.

My first and only  impression of koreans is that they only care about stealing each others ideas and making money by trying to shove garbage down peoples throats.

How can i think differently when all thats shown to me is the complete negative aspects of a culture.

 

 

same thing happens in the wester world. all mmorpg are just clones of each other now.

well all the companies that make free mmorpg(the L2 clones and the Ragnarock clones) are just small companies who are just intrested in your cash.

if you want to play a decent asian mmo stick with ncsoft , squareenix ...

gravity used to be on that list but they are just money hungrey aswell now....all there games used to be p2p but they have all gone f2p now except for ragnarock which is p2p and cashop....eh....

 

tfox2k1  8/25/08 8:14:11 AM

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What you are saying is extremely racist and I find it ironic because racism against Asians is acceptable.  Let me explain.

 

What if I slightly modify your idea:

 

I hate all Africans because they are always running scams on the Internet.

I hate all Italians because they are always trying to convert me to Catholic.

I hate all Americans because they are all fat.

 

All those statements are extremely racist and unacceptable.  Just like your comment on Koreans.

 

You answer your own question though, you know little about Koreans.    You're basing your entire opinion of Koreans on an extremely small part of their culture. 

 

Now saying you hate Koreans MMOs, would be true.   Saying you hate Koreans because of their MMO's is extremely racist and wrong.

 

 

 
SgtFrog  8/25/08 8:16:52 AM

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Sergeant Keroro

Originally posted by tfox2k1

What you are saying is extremely racist and I find it ironic because racism against Asians is acceptable.  Let me explain.

 

What if I slightly modify your idea:

 

I hate all Africans because they are always running scams on the Internet.

I hate all Italians because they are always trying to convert me to Catholic.

I hate all Americans because they are all fat.

 

All those statements are extremely racist and unacceptable.  Just like your comment on Koreans.

 

You answer your own question though, you know little about Koreans.    You're basing your entire opinion of Koreans on an extremely small part of their culture. 

 

Now saying you hate Koreans MMOs, would be true.   Saying you hate Koreans because of their MMO's is extremely racist and wrong.

 

 

 

lol yes. alot of people seem to get away with it in this forum

Bigdavo  8/25/08 8:20:16 AM

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Originally posted by rubydragon5

Before you read this, It is a serious topic, and I am voicing my opinions. I am not looking for a fight or any flames.

 

On the mmorpg.com they are giving away 9,000 beta accounts for  Chaos Online..

these are parts of the Game description:

"For example, you can cast your powerful spell when ridding on a modern motorcycle!"

"which is specialized in magnificent effects and expansibility"

 

At first its 100 Lineage 2 clones, now they are cloning this 2,5 D trash.

I am so sick of seeing clones of trash games being flooded onto the market

 

 I am a very open person when i comes to religion, race, creed, nationality etc...

I have jewish friends, I have african american friends, italian friends, I am friendly to whoever is friendly to me.

But that said I want everyone to understand that most people are judged by there first Impressions on someone.

When I see all these games that are being pumped out by Korean companies, and I get this nastalgic feeling from each game filled with bots, poor translation, cheap graphics, and words like SUPER Amazing fun rewards !

This is pretty much all I know of korean business and culture.

My first and only  impression of koreans is that they only care about stealing each others ideas and making money by trying to shove garbage down peoples throats.

How can i think differently when all thats shown to me is the complete negative aspects of a culture.<