Star Wars Galaxies

Originally posted by Fishermage

 

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Originally posted by bigbaldpapa

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Originally posted by pdxgeek

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Originally posted by Gutboy

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Originally posted by yugyug

 

Not to mention, apparently SOE allows AFK farming now, they see nothing wrong with it at all. So some of the people who may see online, arent even really there, yippeeee!
SWG should be put to rest. Just end it, what a pathetic ending to what was truly a great game.

Has there ever been a greater fail by a MMO than what SOE did to SWG? Honest question.

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Off the top of my head, let's see:
Tabula Rasa
Roma Victor
Vanguard
Hellgate London
And that Car Racing MMO, I forget the name that shut down a year after it launched.

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None of those games launched, stuck around for a couple years and then completely changed the fundamental gameplay in a massively greedy attempt to chase WoW.

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Attempting to chase WoW's success was a huge error. SOE lost loads of subs over it. The old game is gone and won't be back. There are positives and negatives to that. The game that is there now is under an entirely new set of devs and while it is not as good as the skill point system that was there it is going in a good direction.
The game is picking up from the abyss it hit from the NGE and is slowly and steadily regrowing. Some of the people that were majorly put out by the NGE will never come back around and I cannot fault their reasons for deciding not to.
However, if you do not regularly play the game in the form it is now you really have no place in telling people who enjoy it that they are wrong and all attempts to keep trying to tell them that their opinion is wrong is nothing short of petty vengence against SOE.

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He has every right to say whatever he wants. He has every place to say whatever he wants. As long as this country is free it is always one's place to speak one's mind. Plus, it is easy to check the state of the game -- enough free passes are given out so anyone may try it.

As someone who still plays the game on a fairly regular basis, I'm sorry, I don't see any real turn around. A couple of servers are doing well -- the rest of the place is dying. Every step they take forward, they take two steps back. They still do not care about customer effort, still feel it is okay to erase past achievement by players -- in short they still do not know how to advance a persistent world in a professional manner.

They are failures, plain and simple. They don't know what they are doing. People have every right tp get what enjoyment they can out of it -- I certainly do -- but the game is still a mess.
 

I agree with you here since my return 2 months ago I noticed the customer service is even worse than pre-cu,back then you had in game csr's and you could make a ticket in game,now it takes you completely out of game and you have to wait for a response form who knows. I am still having fun with the game ,but SOE customer service is the worst of any game period.

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Originally posted by bigbaldpapa

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Originally posted by Fishermage

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He has every right to say whatever he wants. He has every place to say whatever he wants. As long as this country is free it is always one's place to speak one's mind. Plus, it is easy to check the state of the game -- enough free passes are given out so anyone may try it.
As someone who still plays the game on a fairly regular basis, I'm sorry, I don't see any real turn around. A couple of servers are doing well -- the rest of the place is dying. Every step they take forward, they take two steps back. They still do not care about customer effort, still feel it is okay to erase past achievement by players -- in short they still do not know how to advance a persistent world in a professional manner.
They are failures, plain and simple. They don't know what they are doing. People have every right tp get what enjoyment they can out of it -- I certainly do -- but the game is still a mess.

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I recognize that name from the forums. Being a long-time vet I know your opinion lol. I'm not going to argue with you here. We have had enough there and I respect your knowledge. I just see things differently. A long time ago I had to let the old game go. Like you, I am a die-hard Star Wars geek. I can't log in and play a game that I am miserable and pissed off about so I let the old game go.
The current team has been left with the dubious task of working with the mess that was given to them and I believe 100% that they are doing well working with what they where given. The population is a mess without a doubt and will never get back to what it was. However, I also believe that is on an upcreep.
I am an optimist here. I dig MMO's and I love Star Wars so I am making lemonade out of the lemons we have been given.

-JarheddJedi

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ahh jarhedd :)

Good to see you again!

I let the old game go long ago as well, and I am VERY sympathetic to the situation Blix and team find themselves in. I am just saying that they have not done the best job they could getting out of that situation and many of the hard choices they have made have been the wrong ones -- and those wrong choices stem from the same ethical problems that the old team had.

That is why I don't think it's the teams, it's management -- it's Smed.

I have noticed the same thing has happened with EQ2 (which is actually a good game even if they make the same kinds of mistakes), vanguard, EQ1, and from what I hear, matric online.

SOE just has a shabby set of ethics, and that stuff flows downhill from the man in charge.

Originally posted by Fishermage

 

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Originally posted by bigbaldpapa

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Originally posted by Fishermage

 

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He has every right to say whatever he wants. He has every place to say whatever he wants. As long as this country is free it is always one's place to speak one's mind. Plus, it is easy to check the state of the game -- enough free passes are given out so anyone may try it.
As someone who still plays the game on a fairly regular basis, I'm sorry, I don't see any real turn around. A couple of servers are doing well -- the rest of the place is dying. Every step they take forward, they take two steps back. They still do not care about customer effort, still feel it is okay to erase past achievement by players -- in short they still do not know how to advance a persistent world in a professional manner.
They are failures, plain and simple. They don't know what they are doing. People have every right tp get what enjoyment they can out of it -- I certainly do -- but the game is still a mess.

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I recognize that name from the forums. Being a long-time vet I know your opinion lol. I'm not going to argue with you here. We have had enough there and I respect your knowledge. I just see things differently. A long time ago I had to let the old game go. Like you, I am a die-hard Star Wars geek. I can't log in and play a game that I am miserable and pissed off about so I let the old game go.
The current team has been left with the dubious task of working with the mess that was given to them and I believe 100% that they are doing well working with what they where given. The population is a mess without a doubt and will never get back to what it was. However, I also believe that is on an upcreep.
I am an optimist here. I dig MMO's and I love Star Wars so I am making lemonade out of the lemons we have been given.

-JarheddJedi

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ahh jarhedd :)

Good to see you again!

I let the old game go long ago as well, and I am VERY sympathetic to the situation Blix and team find themselves in. I am just saying that they have not done the best job they could getting out of that situation and many of the hard choices they have made have been the wrong ones -- and those wrong choices stem from the same ethical problems that the old team had.

That is why I don't think it's the teams, it's management -- it's Smed.

I have noticed the same thing has happened with EQ2 (which is actually a good game even if they make the same kinds of mistakes), vanguard, EQ1, and from what I hear, matric online.

SOE just has a shabby set of ethics, and that stuff flows downhill from the man in charge.

I won't disagree with you there.

Originally posted by bigbaldpapa

Originally posted by Fishermage

 SOE just has a shabby set of ethics, and that stuff flows downhill from the man in charge.

 I won't disagree with you there.

Then why do you defend them?

Originally posted by pdxgeek

Originally posted by bigbaldpapa

Originally posted by Fishermage

 SOE just has a shabby set of ethics, and that stuff flows downhill from the man in charge.

 I won't disagree with you there.

Then why do you defend them?

I defend the current dev team and what they are trying to do for the game.

Originally posted by bigbaldpapa

Originally posted by pdxgeek

Originally posted by bigbaldpapa

Originally posted by Fishermage

 SOE just has a shabby set of ethics, and that stuff flows downhill from the man in charge.

 I won't disagree with you there.

Then why do you defend them?

 

I defend the current dev team and what they are trying to do for the game.

The current dev team is responsible for cookie-cutter "heroic" instances, endless collections and now a card game microtransaction scam. What is there to defend?

Originally posted by pdxgeek

Originally posted by bigbaldpapa

Originally posted by pdxgeek

Originally posted by bigbaldpapa

Originally posted by Fishermage

 SOE just has a shabby set of ethics, and that stuff flows downhill from the man in charge.

 I won't disagree with you there.

Then why do you defend them?

 

I defend the current dev team and what they are trying to do for the game.

The current dev team is responsible for cookie-cutter "heroic" instances, endless collections and now a card game microtransaction scam. What is there to defend?

There is no sense in going at each others throats over it.  It is my opinion.  I will admit that just now, I logged in, stared up the screen then promptly logged out and fired up my 360 to play some madden.

SWG isn't perfect.  But it is far better off then it was after the NGE hit.

Originally posted by Gutboy

Try using the new search tool, you can select people by profession and makes it easy to find people, even on the deadest of servers (Kauri) I can find over a hundred toons online just about anytime.

Since you just came back to the game, just note that people do not hang out in the same places we used to. One reason is with a spaceship you can go from any starport to any starport, so no need to go to Coronet first to be able to go to Yavin 4 from Tatooine. Makes a big difference.

Screenshots of 100 people online on Kauri at any given time.  I bet you can't provide a screenshot that shows 50 people on Kauri.

You are simply lying to these people.  Good posters get banned on here all the time for speaking the truth and you get to stay while you lie about the state of the game.  It's ridiculous.