Star Wars Galaxies

Again I was just struck by the title of this thread.  Why? 

It seems to suggest that all veteran players are bent on having SWG close down.  That is simply a very untrue overgeneralization.  It paints veteran players as somehow the enemy of current players who want to just enjoy their game.  It's divisive, and this game certainly doesn't need anything more to divide its playerbase.

Let me be clear that many, probably most, veteran players do not want to see current players lose their game.  This is certainly the case with many vets whose posts I read here, and it's also true of my former SWG guildmates that keep in touch via our own forum.   That's one reason I continue to be surprised at the animosity and spin-doctoring I see on these boards at times, by the way.  In our guild forum, current and former players talk about SWG, WoW, CoH and other events all the time without trying to misrepresent each other, misrepresent any game, or vent hostility on one another.  It just isn't necessary, or helpful in my view.

So what do most veteran players seem to want?

Well, many I interact with would really love to see important bugs fixed, especially those that SOE said they would fix, but haven't.  Who wouldn't want that??

Many also want to see SOE respect ingame progress.  They're tired of seeing their ingame accomplishments go by the wayside with new publishes, and they're tired of relearning the game.  Who wouldn't want their progress to be respected??

Many also want to see SOE follow through on promises to address the low population servers.  Who wouldn't want to see that??

Some would like classic servers because they really enjoyed the original format of the game.  It might also feel that they were being given back something that was taken from them.  I don't have a desire for this currently, but I recongize that others still do.  Again, this seems quite resonable to me, and doesn't take anything away from current players at all.

For myself, I'd also still like to see some subscription refunds for those that were specifically misled by pre-NGE dev chats in Sept. and Oct. 05 that failed to mention anything about the NGE.  Instead they promised things to specific professions (squad leader, ranger and creature handler) that either never materialized or only lasted for 12 days, specifically because of the NGE.  This is simply a stand against false advertising.   Is anyone in favour of false advertising??

So, the OP doesn't need to apologize to "vets" for the continuation of SWG.  If apologies need to be made, and if fences need mending, this is not the best approach in my mind.  The points listed above might suggest a more fruitful way forward.

I'm sure this game will never go away, this is my opinion. Is because more and more this game becomes a sandbox and heads towards casual players. There's only about a 11.3% chance that this game will become F2P also. So even in 2yrs this game will be here. They may have to do some major changes to catch up with advancing the engine, graphics etc. But I'm sure it will probably never die...I never read a post on this thread so if it is basically the same thing the OP said, my bad.

Originally posted by ArcAngel3

Again I was just struck by the title of this thread.  Why? 

It seems to suggest that all veteran players are bent on having SWG close down.  That is simply a very untrue overgeneralization.  It paints veteran players as somehow the enemy of current players who want to just enjoy their game.  It's divisive, and this game certainly doesn't need anything more to divide its playerbase.

Let me be clear that many, probably most, veteran players do not want to see current players lose their game.  This is certainly the case with many vets whose posts I read here, and it's also true of my former SWG guildmates that keep in touch via our own forum.   That's one reason I continue to be surprised at the animosity and spin-doctoring I see on these boards at times, by the way.  In our guild forum, current and former players talk about SWG, WoW, CoH and other events all the time without trying to misrepresent each other, misrepresent any game, or vent hostility on one another.  It just isn't necessary, or helpful in my view.

So what do most veteran players seem to want?

Well, many I interact with would really love to see important bugs fixed, especially those that SOE said they would fix, but haven't.  Who wouldn't want that??

Many also want to see SOE respect ingame progress.  They're tired of seeing their ingame accomplishments go by the wayside with new publishes, and they're tired of relearning the game.  Who wouldn't want their progress to be respected??

Many also want to see SOE follow through on promises to address the low population servers.  Who wouldn't want to see that??

Some would like classic servers because they really enjoyed the original format of the game.  It might also feel that they were being given back something that was taken from them.  I don't have a desire for this currently, but I recongize that others still do.  Again, this seems quite resonable to me, and doesn't take anything away from current players at all.

For myself, I'd also still like to see some subscription refunds for those that were specifically misled by pre-NGE dev chats in Sept. and Oct. 05 that failed to mention anything about the NGE.  Instead they promised things to specific professions (squad leader, ranger and creature handler) that either never materialized or only lasted for 12 days, specifically because of the NGE.  This is simply a stand against false advertising.   Is anyone in favour of false advertising??

So, the OP doesn't need to apologize to "vets" for the continuation of SWG.  If apologies need to be made, and if fences need mending, this is not the best approach in my mind.  The points listed above might suggest a more fruitful way forward.

As always, your posts are some of the best on these boards. You sir, are always a class act. I think that some however, do want the game taken away from those who currently enjoy it. I agree with you on all points about how SOE did terrible things and did not make proper amends. However, I think this particular OP is just frustrated by all the SWG is shutting down and other threads that litter these boards like a bad case of herpes that will just not go away.

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Originally posted by Dlore
I'm sure this game will never go away, this is my opinion. Is because more and more this game becomes a sandbox and heads towards casual players.

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Way cool i look forward to many many 30 day free trials then lol..........

Originally posted by Dlore

I'm sure this game will never go away, this is my opinion. Is because more and more this game becomes a sandbox and heads towards casual players. There's only about a 11.3% chance that this game will become F2P also. So even in 2yrs this game will be here. They may have to do some major changes to catch up with advancing the engine, graphics etc. But I'm sure it will probably never die...I never read a post on this thread so if it is basically the same thing the OP said, my bad.

SWG is the perfect example of what IS NOT a sandbox.  It's as linear as AoC is.  You have to be kidding.

Originally posted by dethgar

Originally posted by Gutboy

From the fan fair today, here is this:

11)  LucasArts and SOE (i.e. management) are deeply committed to supporting our dev team.  They would not comment on any other licensing, but George Lucas' son plays SWG and enjoys it a lot.  Therefore George is interested in making sure the game suceeds (in theory)
 

 

 

No wonder the game went NGE, Georgie Porgie Pig Face's son is playing. They had to dumb it way down in order for him to do so. Really though, most of us vets don't give two shits anymore whether it keeps going or not, we're moving on to other games and hopefully a new SW mmo from BioWare.

if bio-ware makes a new mmo, thats about all it will be, and thats what scares me, there will be no rpg, i think it will be like a rock em sock em run around and kill people type kotor, purely pvp, no pve, no rpg in a vast world, little to no flight, no housing just vaults somewhere to acess yer gear, and for gods sakes i hope the artstyle isnt gonna be like the clonewars cartoon.