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twhint 8/28/08 3:44:36 PM
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First off, people need to calm down. This is a game and we all play to have fun. Some people find it more fun to play with themselves than others, and that is alright. Personally, I've done both and I prefer meeting other people, but that is just me. I'm outgoing to some degree and I get laid on a regular basis. As to the argument, I had 2 other friends and we all multi-boxed 2 or 3 characters each in Everquest. We had 2 Shamans, a Rogue, Druid, Enchanter, Warrior, Cleric, and a monk. We were doing Halls of Testing, the dragons in Western Wastes, the burrower in Luclin, revamped Cazic Thule, Plane of Growth with 1 group, and a number of other places, that a lot of medium guilds on our server couldn't do without wiping. This was pre-PoP. I'd say /THAT/ is the biggest argument for multi-boxing. As to Warhammer, I'd say the action is a little fast-paced, there are a lot of other variables that will allow you to be most effective that macro's simply can't keep up with and, as someone else said, healing is proactive and no reactive. However, one could easily duo two mages or ranged dps classes, linking the keyboards to simply press the same key. That would be the easiest, in my opinion, rather than having to different classes and trying to keep track of both.
Added - Looking at HensenLiro's lengthy post, I would say that's taking it to extreme. People multi-box to gain an advantage, such as the advantage of having a ready made group vs. having to spend a while to look for one, or the advantage of knowing that one of their party members won't act like a total ass and blow the rhythm they are trying to establish with whatever they are doing. Yes, some are doing it simply to farm for items/gold. But not all of them are. In my case, it was to get items I wouldn't have a chance to get unless I joined a guild, and after several experiences with guilds in EQ, I avoided the whole drama that guilds usually entail and did it with my friends who I enjoyed playing with. Later on, when I rejoined EQ and was powerlevelling a shaman and a warrior, my friend let me use his druid to heal and cast damage shield on. This was the most effective method of going through something that is mundane, boring and necessary because of game mechanics. Now, some are selfish and claim whole swaths of area and try to prevent anyone else from getting anything. These are anti-social assholes and I fully support going after them, through game mechanics. They do this because it is efficient. The trick is to make it not efficient. When I was powerlevelling, I had no problem letting others join the group or helping them take down a mob they needed. But I know not everyone is like that. Welcome to life. Honestly, if you're not enjoying a game for what it is, play something else. The minute you let something in the game anger you, it stops being a game and is starting to become stress. Play something else, either for the short term or long term. Whatever floats you boat. (You as a general term). But to claim multi-boxing is evil and the downfall of MMO communities everywhere, that is just silly. Gold farming and item farming is the evil. Don't confuse the two. |
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TrunksZ 8/28/08 3:56:06 PM
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I don't have anything against people doing whatever they like, aslong they don't bother other people and honestly this whole multiboxing thing is VERY lame, I just have encounter this in WoW when 6 shaman's attacked me at the same time, I did not have a chance to fight back. I definitely hope that Mythic find a way to Ban this from WAR, although is going to be hard because is not Illegal and it give more money to the company, but sometimes it ruins the game for some of us, although it happens very few times. Not trying to bash or anything, but how you can defend your self when 6 shamans hit you 2k each in 1 sec and you have 10k of hp with decent gear. |
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Dosas 8/28/08 4:23:30 PM
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Hensenliros, your post is very hard to comprehend because you disguise it as an academic text but really it's just giberrish, you talk about video game communities like it's supposed to be some sort of Baudrillard text analysis here, right after you made several attacks on people you know nothing about other than they multi box video games, using language like 'dumbface' and 'scum'. I mean you are either really deranged from your anger over something as meaningless as someone two boxing two wizard toons, or you are some sort of troll, having a laugh out of all this and enjoying the attention. Anyway, got to run. I guess the bottom line to my question is we won't really know how multiboxing happens with WAR (or not) until it launches. |
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karat76 8/28/08 4:47:20 PM
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I hope even if they have multiboxers they are at least vulnerable to attack on lock the healbots left in keeps in old DAoC. Personally I find their behavior annoying and a cancer to sense of community online gaming used to have however they have the right to play the game their way until the company changes the rules and I have the right to hate them. See its a win win situtation they get to play the game their way and and get to put my hate on them for whatever is annoying me that week. |
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HensenLiros 8/29/08 5:50:36 AM
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Originally posted by Dosas Baudrillard text analysis? Are you really that ignorant? I don't disguise it in any academic way, sorry if you didn't understand the post as a whole. If you can't understand that you people are as low as scammers and brute forcers, who take advantage of the developer's need to submit to economics, then your ignorance are absolutely plain and supreme. The latter posters said it as well, how can people not see that paying more in order to have a group instead of a character isn't appropriate? You seem to lack any sense to the point of thinking that MMO's are simply online games. I'm not saying that they're supposed to hire sociologists and philosophers in order to form a outstanding community system, but when people like you take advantage of economics and ruin other's people experience, the least the company can do is letting us kill, steal, scam and blacklist you. Only the latter two being possible on non-pvp games. As I presumed before, you now just enforced my idea that you're barely a unexperienced young player who doesn't know how scamming groups/ brute forcers work. Specially now that all that the best you could do is a troll post saying "you know nothing either you're a troll or you're a pissed off guy". You should be playing single player games. You aren't apt do play community games, and I'd say that you're not apt to use forums either. |
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Digna 8/29/08 6:00:56 AM
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Originally posted by Keeper2000
Unlikely. The only thing that would work, in general would be multiple logins from the same IP address and that would block folks from having friends and family playing in the same location. I think Mythic will have (has) the 'if they want to play 2..let them' attitude, knowing all the while that 2 boxing might be implement with some difficulty (to make it workable on a moment to moment basis) but overall it's not going to be someothing most folks are going to want to bother with. |
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alakram 8/29/08 6:02:57 AM
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Originally posted by Dosas
A multiboxer buys 2 games, pays 2 monthly fees. No, mythic will not be against multiboxers. No company will do. They may try to make your life little harder cose of "fair play" thingy, but im sure you will be able to do it. Just because it would be stupid to not allow it. |
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mrnutz1065 8/29/08 6:50:09 AM
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I personally don't see the problem with multiboxing. It's not breaking any eula/agreement, so whatever floats ya boat i guess. Slightly related is how when i play WoW as a hybrid I get grief in AV if i don't heal. I play the game how I want to play regardless of what others think. You don't raid as holy 5 days a week to get a big shiny axe only to have to heal in battlegrounds. I pay the subscription, so my game my rules :) |
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Dosas 8/29/08 6:54:33 AM
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Well, that's the first time I've been called a scum for my playstyle in a video game, guess there must be a first for everything in life. Last time I checked we still live in a secular capitalist society ('we' in the western world) so my choice to pay and get more out of an entertainment service outweighs your lunatic rants about utopian egalitarian virtual societies. I mean, seriously, you are really deranged if you really attempt to apply your egalitarian ethics in an entertainment industry sector that is built from the bottom up as a consumer product/service | |