World of Warcraft

Originally posted by Gazenthia

Originally posted by TeamFortress

So if you talk FACTS don't try to artificially downgrade the numbers of WOW characters played daily.

This was painful to look at

and a lie

I was talking about the level 70 characters, as I clearly stated at least once. The level 70 characters are a much better representation of total subscriptions than the entire 1-70 spectrum for numerous reasons.

I showed you that about 6.7 million characters (level 10-70) were played in the last 24 hours. Up from 5.8 million in June

I myself level a new character (now being level 66) and I didn't touch my level 70 in the last 3 days. As does my brother who is new to the game and just got to level 68 yesterday.

So the only thing you prove is that about 35% of the daily charcaters being played are 70. Healthy number I'd say.

And remember : the man's stats need not be taken too seriously. He depends from samples of people using his Census Plus program. Like he says "even ONE participant" can make a huge difference. So if he depends on two or three guys on a server and they don't log in for that day, the server hordes or alliance side players number are way off.

Highest ever played characters on Wow were  this year in January, I remember he registrated about 7.3 million back then. In Apr May and June it went to 5.8 gradually and since then (announcement of WotLK and end of summer) the number of played characters grows again to the number you see above (6.7)

So 6.7 million is a record high for late summer months in the whole existence of Wow.

Have a nice day

:)

Back on topic:

Like most posts show: those that play Wow today are more interested than those who left the game right after TBC.

The game found a 6 months rebirth cycle that is good for most  players.

Things saying like "it's a joke to play" is a laugh and shows a hatred towards a game many many people enjoy. It's a joke to play videogames. It's a joke to play MMO's. Life is a joke.

Meaning less words to bash a very well polished product that Blizzard constantly fine tunes to keep players attracted to it.

You don't have to play and enjoy WOW. No one is pointing a gun at you.

But hose who enjoy Wow have fun and that's all to it isn't it.

I think most MMORPG players don't see the fun in the game they play.

Originally posted by VengeSunsoar

Actually I am really looking forward to it.  I am only a part time WoW player but WOTLK is making me want to push a bit more.  New areas to fly over (when I eventually can fly), new forms for my druid, slighter better, crisper graphics (in my opinion anyway), new mounts, and tons of new areas to explore.  Plus a new class.

I don't raid so don't care about that.

Overall looks like a good expansion to me.

Venge Sunsoar

I agree here 100%. I've just started playing WoW a month ago. I think that I won't have myself set to solid in any routine by the time the expansion comes out to upset me. I understand the long time players may say a thing or two, but for myself, I'm looking forward to it.

I was realy hoping for player housing with this Exp oh well I'll still be buying it.

After waiding through the pages of WAR reactions of more neutral players now that that game is "open",

I can only hope Blizz will only publish when the game is "ready".

Blizz ready that is.

The gap between Blizz quality and each new other MMORPG trial launched is widening at a frightening speed.

Top quality control of your Avatar is the secret of Wow and I hope it stays that way in WotLK.

Well the problem with counting characters over subscriptions is that one sub can play multiple characters.  So one guy has six toons, stat wise thats one sub and 6 characters.  The US sub totals are the lowest, followed by EU and then Asia.  However the high character stats just mean that most (if not all) subscribers have more than one character.

I know the Blizzard will release when it's done, but all signs show that WotLK is coming out this year (proabably November).  They've said more than once it's coming out "Q4 2008", blue posts indicate a pre-expansion patch coming soon and they've released the intro cinematic.  Probably they want to make sure that WAR doesn't get much momentum on them. 

So far what Blizz has shown me hasn't impressed me.  What my coworkers and friends who play it say is what will influence me the most.

Originally posted by DrowNoble

Well the problem with counting characters over subscriptions is that one sub can play multiple characters.  So one guy has six toons, stat wise thats one sub and 6 characters.  The US sub totals are the lowest, followed by EU and then Asia.  However the high character stats just mean that most (if not all) subscribers have more than one character.

I know the Blizzard will release when it's done, but all signs show that WotLK is coming out this year (proabably November).  They've said more than once it's coming out "Q4 2008", blue posts indicate a pre-expansion patch coming soon and they've released the intro cinematic.  Probably they want to make sure that WAR doesn't get much momentum on them. 

So far what Blizz has shown me hasn't impressed me.  What my coworkers and friends who play it say is what will influence me the most.

The stats show the characters being played THAT DAY (or part of that day). And that were traced by a census client which logged in that day.

I don't know many players who play all of their characters on a daily basis :))

Again the stats show that US has MORE played total characters than EU (but EU is incomplete due to the new Russian servers. )

So while the stats of this Census Plus thing show trends it isn't exactly 100% correct.(a census client not logging in can make a huge difference for that day -and result in a lot of characters  not measured for that day etc...).

I don't know why everyone seeks "hidden" and false information behind every tree when Wow is concerned. Everything can be traced rather easely. From Xfire stats, to Vivendi financial reports etc...

It's as if there would be one big conspiracy conisisting of a rare kind of Maffia that manipulates the Western popularity of Wow.

Here is another example of its current popularity: just some sales figures of NEW basic boxes. A reason why you have to include ALL level 10-level 70 characters being played daily.

http://www.wowinsider.com/2008/08/20/four-of-the-top-ten-pc-games-are-world-of-warcraft/

Even after 4 years. Indeed a rare achievement.

Originally posted by TeamFortress

The stats show the characters being played THAT DAY (or part of that day). And that were traced by a census client which logged in that day.

I don't know many players who play all of their characters on a daily basis :))<...>

Again the stats show that US has MORE played total characters than EU (but EU is incomplete due to the new Russian servers. )

I don't know why everyone seeks "hidden" and false information behind every tree when Wow is concerned.

I was going to let this argument die even after you completely flat-out lied, twice now, about me earlier and put words in my mouth. It seems that you are intent on this message, but you are not putting anything new into your message to further explain yourself and seem naive to what other people are saying.

1) Total character count means approximately squat because it is the weakest, most subjective, variable to determine actual subscriber numbers due to numerous reasons. The reasons include: gold farmers, trials, bank alts, regular alts, and ignorance of the games age among others.

2) Almost everyone I knew would at least log onto their mail character, or lowbie alt. I myself would often bounce between all of my characters depending on what was necessary for the group.

3) Whether or not the US has more characters, is irrelevant. How the hell did that come up? Oh... you brought that up. I don't know why.

4) You keep saying "hidden" and "false", please elaborate on what you mean. Exactly what was "hidden" or "false" in that persons message and/or my own? I believe that I was 100% straight forward about what I was talking about and linked my source, it was clear cut textbook style.

Please reply with a more substantial response, if you do respond. All three of your posts look alike and have little or nothing to do with what was actually being replied to.

Yes I agree character counts aren't a good idea of how many actually playing.  If I logged on my bank bot for 1 min then logged him out that is one character that has been "played" that day.  I know some people that before they hop on their main will logon each of their alts to check mail.  Doing that would show several characters as being "played" for that day.

All we can honestly say is about those numbers is people have a lot of alts.