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arcturussage  9/08/08 10:37:00 PM

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Hello,

In a recent hypemeter comments and forum posts you expressed your concern about the darkfall community.

I just want to let you know that there are those of us that who are not fanbois foaming at the mouth. We want to make the game a good community and want people to be able to play without getting ganked every 30 seconds by 12 year olds that think its the greatest thing in the world. Yes, all games have their rotten apples and the darkfall community seems to have a lot of bad apples, but please don't disregard the game, or the rest of the community because of the poor ones.

Many people have been following this game for over 3 or 4 years, many of those years left them... us, with little information and little hope. Many found ways to pass the time, some are certainly more bitter than others. We aren't proud of this fact, but its what we had to do to pass the time. It certainly isn't an excuse, but hopefully it helps explain a few things.

Again, not all of the community is bad. I, personally, hope that a lot of the community will change once the game is released and get their initial excitement and anger out of the way.

Darkfall is unique. You only have your one character per server, you can't be an ass and then jump on another character. Your actions have consequences, if your are a jerk, news will spread and it will work against you. People that are known as being helpful upstanding players will be rewarded. Hopefully this will help douse the flames of some of the more severe members of the community. Only time will tell.

All I ask is that you give Darkfall a chance. I truly believe that there is a little something for everyone. PvPers and "Carebears" alike can find something that appeals to them if they just give it a chance.

On behalf of the civil members of the community I want you to apologize for the others. All I can offer is the hope that they will cool off once the game release and that if not, hopefully they will be the minority.

 
Gyrus  9/08/08 11:16:19 PM

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Thanks for the sentiment Arcturussage,

It's kind of ironic however that the people who will read your post and take it in the spirit you intend knew this was the case already.

Nearly all online communities seem to have a collection on these immature posters lately.
In MMOs, and in particular MMOs in development, it is a major concern.

They claim to be "hardcore PvPers" yet most of them have never played WWII Online or Plantside and if they did most of them simply wouldn't last.

A number of your more mature members have said that they "simply ignore" these people?
My suggestion to your community is that you do not simply ignore them any more.
Instead, make it clear to them that this sort of behaviour is unacceptable within your community.  You will need to get your Developer, Admins and Moderators on board for this.
Posters only tend to stay part of a community when they are 'comfortable' there.  By maintaining a high standard you will make the immature posters either change or leave.

The pay off will be a community you can be proud of.
The pay off from that will be a Beta Testing phase where the game is looked at critically for the purpose of making it better.
Ultimately (if the developer listens to the community) this will result in a better game.

 

 
Reborn17  9/08/08 11:23:17 PM

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"In a time of universal deceit - telling the truth is a revolutionary act."
--George Orwell

/Applause

to both of you

"The people never give up their liberties but under some delusion." -Edmund Burke

Who will rise up for me against the evildoers? or who will stand up for me against the workers of iniquity?"
(Psalm 94:16)

arctarus  9/08/08 11:25:32 PM

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Hi Arc, my near evil twin

There's no need to worry, for this will be a niche game so you wont see those kiddies and bad manners playing this game if its launch. Right now because there's nothing for them to do that's why they will go to any forums and spam.

By the time DF is release, WoW and War have already caught their attention (sad to say though).

If the game is really release with most of the gameplay in, i'll pm you so that we can be partner or even be in the same guild... cya!

 

 

RIP, Orc Choppa

Uzik  9/08/08 11:35:04 PM

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Arcturussage does not speak for the forumfall community.

 

We need no apologizing, as we did nothing wrong. 

 

If you are one of the people who were some how offended by the fact that we are "hyped" about Darkfall, then you would probably get slaughtered in game and cry on the forums about how you need safezones and epic loot.

 

We will take your Hype meter advertising for our game, but we do not need your support MMORPG.com

 
Gyrus  9/08/08 11:45:21 PM

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Originally posted by Uzik

Arcturussage does not speak for the forumfall community.

 

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We will take your Hype meter advertising for our game, but we do not need your support MMORPG.com

He doesn't - yet you do?

 

My suggestion to you is that you email the editor of MMORPG.com and have the Darkfall forums removed and Darkfall removed from the game list?  The link you need is in the FAQ.

Then again, I'm betting the Developer would be very annoyed if that happened?

 
dalevi11  9/08/08 11:46:17 PM

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Originally posted by Uzik

Arcturussage does not speak for the forumfall community.

 

We need no apologizing, as we did nothing wrong. 

 

If you are one of the people who were some how offended by the fact that we are "hyped" about Darkfall, then you would probably get slaughtered in game and cry on the forums about how you need safezones and epic loot.

 

We will take your Hype meter advertising for our game, but we do not need your support MMORPG.com

 

The fun thing about you? Once all your little kitty friends become tire of swinging teh hammer leik in teh video they will quit. If the game is any good at that point, there will be an influx of new players. The second gen players will be more the "other" mmo crowd, and if your game wants to continue making money, they wil soften sort of liek L2.

You have always had PvP options, almost every game has a PvP server. I just can't wait to see youback here complaining both 1) How you got ganked or 2) How you got nerfed or 3) How the game is all care-bear in 6 months after release or 4) How no one plays anymore.

I played WH beta, it's not even salvageable (WoW, graphics and all). This game doesn't stand a chance. Just an opinion.

 
Uzik  9/09/08 12:14:44 AM

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Originally posted by dalevi11
Originally posted by Uzik

Arcturussage does not speak for the forumfall community.

 

We need no apologizing, as we did nothing wrong. 

 

If you are one of the people who were some how offended by the fact that we are "hyped" about Darkfall, then you would probably get slaughtered in game and cry on the forums about how you need safezones and epic loot.

 

We will take your Hype meter advertising for our game, but we do not need your support MMORPG.com

 

The fun thing about you? Once all your little kitty friends become tire of swinging teh hammer leik in teh video they will quit. If the game is any good at that point, there will be an influx of new players. The second gen players will be more the "other" mmo crowd, and if your game wants to continue making money, they wil soften sort of liek L2.

You have always had PvP options, almost every game has a PvP server. I just can't wait to see youback here complaining both 1) How you got ganked or 2) How you got nerfed or 3) How the game is all care-bear in 6 months after release or 4) How no one plays anymore.

I played WH beta, it's not even salvageable (WoW, graphics and all). This game doesn't stand a chance. Just an opinion.

 

Anyone who thinks that a "PvP server" is equivalent to open PvP has no idea what they are talking about.

 

UO and AC Darktide showed us the potential and flaws of open PvP.  The Darkfall developers are disciples of those games, and have combined the good from those games, with their own style and innovative new features.

 

If you don't like it, tough.  The game is coming out and we will all see then.

 

As for representing the Darkfall community, I would say that I represent "forumfall" pretty well.  I'll be nice and civil if I see nice and civil.  MMORPG.com has always been hostile to Darkfall, so I am hostile to MMORPG.com

 

As you can see, my join date for this site is '04, yet I only have a handful of posts.  My SOLE reason for being on here is to defend Darkfall.  I've done so for years, and with beta coming close, I won't let the naysayers get the better of us.

 

Apologizing is not the in the style of Darkfall.  If I could, I could kill and loot you.  Unfortunately, the forums don't have those features, so my posts will have to suffice.

 
Keeper2000  9/09/08 12:56:17 AM

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Originally posted by Uzik
Originally posted by dalevi11
Originally posted by Uzik

Arcturussage does not speak for the forumfall community.

 

We need no apologizing, as we did nothing wrong. 

 

If you are one of the people who were some how offended by the fact that we are "hyped" about Darkfall, then you would probably get slaughtered in game and cry on the forums about how you need safezones and epic loot.

 

We will take your Hype meter advertising for our game, but we do not need your support MMORPG.com

 

The fun thing about you? Once all your little kitty friends become tire of swinging teh hammer leik in teh video they will quit. If the game is any good at that point, there will be an influx of new players. The second gen players will be more the "other" mmo crowd, and if your game wants to continue making money, they wil soften sort of liek L2.

You have always had PvP options, almost every game has a PvP server. I just can't wait to see youback here complaining both 1) How you got ganked or 2) How you got nerfed or 3) How the game is all care-bear in 6 months after release or 4) How no one plays anymore.

I played WH beta, it's not even salvageable (WoW, graphics and all). This game doesn't stand a chance. Just an opinion.

 

Anyone who thinks that a "PvP server" is equivalent to open PvP has no idea what they are talking about.

 

UO and AC Darktide showed us the potential and flaws of open PvP.  The Darkfall developers are disciples of those games, and have combined the go