WAR (Warhammer Online)

Originally posted by cooms

Originally posted by AgtSmith

Never ceases to amaze me the crap DEVs put out that people accept and believe.  Yeah, they are letting the world 'preview' this ass ugly game holding back on these excellent graphics they have ready for a couple weeks from now at launch but are not including now because we all know it is best to show yoru worst in order to attract buyers.  You must have believed that AoC asshats who said DX10 and all that content was getting patched in just after launch.  WAR is an ugly game by 2006 standards, it is barely up to speed with some cheesy F2P game - but a $50 2008 major release?  Not a chance it should get a pass based on these lame animations and pitiful graphics.

 

yawn....lets cry more because lazers dont pew pew out of everyone's eyes at super resolution. everyone should have known that this game isnt made like a fucking FPS.  If you want awesome graphics go play far cry or something this isnt final fantasy. tell me games with better grapics that are open world mmorpgs that will have over 150 on each faction and tell me you would want better graphics when your 5000$ comp shits all over its self.

Even if the graphics dont improve as has been said.
I agree with this post. :)
Game Play > Pretty pew pew lazers.

Originally posted by AgtSmith

Originally posted by markoraos

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Sorry mate but the "gfx is king" days are over. Thank god but it seems we're returning to the olden days where gameplay was more important than polycounts.

AoC is still running, no? I'm sure you'll find plenty of joy there.

 

 

It doesn't have to be AoC in looks or Crysis to be modern - but looking like a reject from 2005 is hardly respectable in 2008.  Gameplay matters, graphics matters, sound matters, stability matters, content matters.  Any one of the various elements of a game being so terrible for its time cast a big shadow on everything else.

 

Hmm... of all the factors you listed I concur the gfx is not the "top of the pops". However taking into account the gameplay requirements which include 100+ player characters on screen simultaneously with all kinds of effects I'd say it's pretty damn good. It is a matter of subjective opinion so I can understand some people might find it "offensive" for some reason. I can't stand COD4 graphics because its extremely tight angle PoV makes me feel slow, claustrophobic and irritable... but some people adore it precisely because of it.

Objectively speaking, some animations are sometimes glitchy and clunky... but nothing that is unusual for a beta. A few months polish will weed those out.

Gameplay, balance and content are superb for a MMORPG at this stage of development - I'm overwhelmed by all the options presented to me at any given point in the game. Stability is ok, nothing serious considering the game is being stress-tested right now. Those few crashes i started experiencing recently, once servers started going "full" (say 1 crash to desktop every 2-3 hrs) aren't game-breaking by far - no items/quests/achievements lost. All perfectly normal for an online beta.

I haven't paid much attention to sound cause I usually don't but nothing hurt my ears so I suppose it is ok, at the very least.

There, that's my honest opinion... Different strokes for different folks, I guess...

Look, if you don't care that the came is generations behind in terms of the visuals then so be it - have fun.  But arguing that it is not the case is ludicrous.

As for the beta stuff - are you really so naive in this day and age to realize the game is done, this is not a beta - in a couple weeks it is live.  It is what it is, open beta a couple weeks before live is not a testing exercise except perhaps in terms of load and infrastructure.  There is no time to make these magical visual improvements in the short time before live, and even if there where that would mean going live with a totally different load on clients than has even been tested. 

The game looks now as it will for quite some time to come, if that doesn't matter to you then fine.  But don't deny the reality that WAR is very old looking and not anywhere near, visually, the standard of the genre unless you are simply comparing it to games still around from many years ago.

Originally posted by cooms 

tell me games with better grapics that are open world mmorpgs that will have over 150 on each faction and tell me you would want better graphics when your 5000$ comp shits all over its self.

Lord of the Rings Online, Age of Conan, Vanguard, Tabula Rasa or just about any other game released in the last couple years.  Games I am not a fan of for differing reasons but all are modern looking in terms of visuals in a way WAR will never be save a complete remake of all the assets.  All look modern enough to engage you in the world sufficiently to experience and evaluate the other game elements. 

Originally posted by markoraos

but nothing that is unusual for a beta. A few months polish will weed those out.

Again, this game goes live in days - not months.  What months of beta to refine and improve the visuals are you alluding too?

Didnt mean to spark so much controversy, just giving my input from what I saw the first day.  I always appreciate a fair review (which I attempted to do)...I wish I would of listened to the AoC testers a little better...:)

Originally posted by madstoog

 You couldn't find the RvR? use the map? or the war icon in top rite.. jeez even i know that and im not in the beta yet.

Every person that posts on these forums puts the game down for the most pathetic reasons, amazes me really, how picky some people are.

p.s. i would never go back to wow, i played for 4 years, quit around may last year, that game is a complete grind fest, don't know how anyone could go back to it.

That really says it all, doesn't it?

Btw, in May last year, WoW was 2.5 years old. You did not play for 4 years. Attacking the OP and then proving your even more clueless, isn't exactly a smart move.

EDIT: before you claim to have been in the beta: the signups started a little over 3 years before you quit.

I felt the music was amazing. Sorry if it isn't picking possies in the park.

The game world is bland? I think you played too much WoW. It has a different feel.

I agree on Character customization, but it still beats WoW.

PvE is standard except for PQs which are really fun. It doesn't even feel like a grind.

Op, thank you for your review. It's the kind of reviews I like to read, simple and honest.
 

Originally posted by Jackthecat

 

The game world is bland? I think you played too much WoW. It has a different feel.

 

The last game I played was DAOC which was only a few weeks ago.  I can handle the graphics but I think alot of ppl including myself had a high expectation.  I believe alot of ppl will enter the game at startup and be a little surprised how it turned out.

LOL WTF!!!!!!!!!

The graphics suck!??!?!?!?

Are you crazy??

Seriously.

The graphics in this game look great. They look fine by 2008 standards. Since when has GRAPHICS been the focus point of MMO's? MMO's NEVER, EVER were about the graphics! WAR's graphics are fine. seriously. I dont know where you guys are coming from. Sure, the pre textured faces suck, but really....they probably need it to keep the lag down for the large battles. I cant believe people are complaining about this crap.