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Originally posted by Sovrath

Quite frankly, if one were to listen to the comments on this site, the only great game to ever come out was early UO or early SWG. Every other game pales in comparison. And quite frankly I wonder if they really are being accurate in their recollections.

Anyway, I'm rambling.  The point is, anyone who says pre-CU SWG was better than LotRO is either lying or they were on some sort of drug back in 2003 when SWG shipped.

This is just an average game, yes the Graphics are good and they have made some of the area's you read in the books come to life, but the model details are poor and I do find it a little easy. My first Toon I got to level 11 without dying and got the title "The Undeafeted". At this point I thought, I need more of a challenge. I would only rate this as a 7.

Originally posted by Mattbell69

This is just an average game, yes the Graphics are good and they have made some of the area's you read in the books come to life, but the model details are poor and I do find it a little easy. My first Toon I got to level 11 without dying and got the title "The Undeafeted". At this point I thought, I need more of a challenge. I would only rate this as a 7.

The game is designed so that defeat is rare.  You're supposed to try to avoid it and it's supposed to be easy to avoid it.  What you're criticising is not a flaw - it's a feature.  As for the model details I think you need to tweak your graphics options because they look fine to me.

A feature can be a games greatest flaw my young padawon err wizard apprientice.

Originally posted by Airspell

A feature can be a games greatest flaw my young padawon err wizard apprientice.

Erm... like I said, it's NOT a flaw.

And like I said , it can be both. Game being too easy is a flaw a flaw a flaw a flaw a flaw because without a challenge people get bored.

Originally posted by Airspell

And like I said , it can be both. Game being too easy is a flaw a flaw a flaw a flaw a flaw because without a challenge people get bored.

I don't disagree that it can be both.  All I'm saying is that in my view the game is both challenging and fun, and if you're bored you're looking at the game with the wrong focus.

But heck, if you dislike it, play another game.  Plenty more fish in the sea.

I couldnt agree less with the grade....

LOTRO is well polished, bugless and very well done simply because its too damn simple! Simpler than WoW (and I thought WoW was the bottom, not mentioning, of course, the oriental games named ´grind feast´).

ITs pretty, but empty. Nothing new, and in this industry nothing new (in a sea of same) its the biggest sin. They just cut everything what could give some trouble in the future, it made the game as it could fit in a box. If the simplicity is enought to give a 8.5 grade, then we will find a 10 game easily, we just need to launch Chess Online, its very fun (I love chess) and, believe me, it would have less bugs than LOTR, the client would be at maximum 100 MB, would be no lag, would be a better customization than LOTR... And would be an easy 10, for sure... Of course you would be bored after sometime, but it seens that this doesnt count to grade in here.

LOTRO is empty, turbine cant risk, because they are not good game developers, they cant give too much slack for the players and have arisk a headache later (As it happened with SWG). They invest on pretty graphics and things like ´you can have the same surname than you pal and start a family), but God forbid to put a real PvP or even make the ´family´ bring some bonus or real impact in the game. No, lets make the game SIMPLER (in opposite of what Tolkien proclaims, with all the complexity of his world).

Turbine is a coward compay, and has spoilet the number one IP with its cowardice.

It deserves a 6 for the graphics and polished gameplay, no more than that. And I am being very generous.

Lets not forget that this game is a modern game, and therefore it would be expected something new, or at least a deep vision of something already there, not a step back on gameplay, as it is LOTRO. Better thinking, I let a grade 4.5 for LOTR for this step back (just thinking on UO or SWG and all the possibilities and things let on the hands of the players of those games and the possibility of shaping the game and we easily see that LOTRO is not a MMO but a single game played by a lot of online players).

Originally posted by Domenicus

If the simplicity is enought to give a 8.5 grade, then we will find a 10 game easily, we just need to launch Chess Online, its very fun (I love chess) and, believe me, it would have less bugs than LOTR, the client would be at maximum 100 MB, would be no lag, would be a better customization than LOTR... And would be an easy 10, for sure... Of course you would be bored after sometime, but it seens that this doesnt count to grade in here...

Look, you just don't like LotRO, but that doesn't mean it's a bad game.  It's the best MMOG I've ever played, and I've played quite a few.