WAR (Warhammer Online)

Originally posted by supbro

Originally posted by Dreizack1

I've been waiting for WAR for years and I was really excited when I was able to get into the open beta.  After downloading 10gb's and installing the game, I have to say it F**cking sucks.

WAR is a WoW clone and a bad one at that, the combat is slower, looting is a pain, the graphics/UI are the same and it's just plain boring.  I'm not a big fan of WoW either, but I would much rather play it than spend anymore time in an unimaginative clone MMO with no innovation. 

I quit AoC in preperation for WAR, that was a bad move, even with all it's flaws AoC is still much better than WAR.  I'm going to resub to AoC and just wait for all the people who jumped to WAR to come back after their 30 day sub is up. 

 

I agree AoC is miles ahead of war in combat and gameplay. WAR is boring and a real grind to level, with the animation glitches and bugged mobs - the game is in a sorry state. AoC revoluitionery combat mechanics really spoiled us i guess and WAR is a step backwards.  Im playing AoC and loving it, the servers are jam packed.

Okay the last sentence finally has told me that you are NOT EVEN PLAYING Age of Conan (or you are making up lies just to irritate people). I played on one of the largest servers with a huge guild and its a dead zone. My guild lost over 400 members since launch! Everyone knows the population is low across the board. Hell, as far as the PVE servers are concerned, there is only 1 with any form of population: Wiccana. There are even recruitment threads on the other servers to get people to roll on Wiccana so it has enough population.

Revolutionary combat? Please. As Aurick said, it was a smoke screen. For example:

Combo A: Press 1, then 2
Combo B: Press 2, then 1
Combo C: Press 3, then 2 then 1

Rinse and repeat in different combinations all they way to level 40 where you get 3 more buttons to make combos. Revolutionary? I think not.

EDIT: Just curious, what JAMMED PACKED server do you play on? Just curious because I think it would be good for the game to let people know this server so they can find one that does have enough people for pvp.

Originally posted by templarga

Originally posted by aurick

I would have agreed with you if I'd stopped playing my Witch Hunter (or just about any other class in the game) before level 5.  During the earliest levels, combat feels very much like WoW except with fewer abilities and so a slower pace.

Making things worse with the Witch Hunter was that your attacks each generate an accusation (the game's term for a combo point), and these open up executions (the game's term for finishing blows).  On the surface, the mechanic seemed identical to WoW.  By level 8, that had changed.  Yes, the mechanic is the same on the surface, but the actual play of the character ends up being very different.  For one thing, accusations/combos apply to YOU rather than your enemy.  That means you can switch targets at any time without penalty.  For onother, you start getting tactics and morale abilities.  This means that there's a lot more potential for strategy.  Is an enemy almost dead right when you get 5 accusation built up?  Don't waste that execution!  Finish him off with regular attacks, then start off against your new foe with a really deadly attack!  If you've also been on a kill streak you could even have enough morale built up to use one of those abilities.  If you work the combat so that both execution and morale become available at the same time, you can take out an equal level enemy in two hits.  It's brutal.

Then there's also the business of tactics.  And when you finally get stealth at level 10 that requires a lot more skill than WoW's stealth system.  For one thing, it slowly drains your action points.  Which means that the longer you spend in stealth the weaker you become.  You cannot afford to just prowl the battlefield with impunity.  You have to be quick and smart.

That's just the Witch Hunter.  Every single class I've progressed to level 10 has proven to have surprising depth that could not be anticipated from the first 4 or 5 levels.  All of them have proven to have very engaging combat that feels more strategic and less twitchy than WoW.  HOWEVER, the classes only work well if you truly understand your abilities and the synergies between them.  I think this is why WAR took the approach of granting only one or two abilities at each level, but also giving you something new at almost EVERY level.  This gives you time to figure out the secrets of each new ability before it dumps something else on you. 

There really is a lot of depth for those who bother to give it a chance.

I could not have said it better myself.

it is obvious that many trolls in these forums played to level 5 or so. Like many games, WAR takes a few levels to come in. When I first started playing, I gave up about level 5 but soon came back and once I got to level 10 or so, I loved the game.

It is not perfect but it is still a great game and it matures as you play it. Level 10 is entirely different than level 5 (as it should be).

I think its funny that many of the trolls here (who want to save us [the unsuspecting masses] from WAR) are actually recruiting more people to play it because their arguments are so stupid and baseless.

The best part is that its a handful of Age of Conan fanbois who fear WAR because they know that it is going to hurt the subscriber numbers in AOC. And rightfully so....they should be worried because at least Mythic delivered on its promises unlike Funcom that keeps delaying them.

I agree with you the game changed at level 10. So far I have tried the Witch Hunter, Black Orc, Squig Herder and the Chosen. Each has their own strengths and weaknesses just like every other class out there; you have to know how to use them to your advantage.

Originally posted by supbro

Originally posted by Dreizack1

I've been waiting for WAR for years and I was really excited when I was able to get into the open beta.  After downloading 10gb's and installing the game, I have to say it F**cking sucks.

WAR is a WoW clone and a bad one at that, the combat is slower, looting is a pain, the graphics/UI are the same and it's just plain boring.  I'm not a big fan of WoW either, but I would much rather play it than spend anymore time in an unimaginative clone MMO with no innovation. 

I quit AoC in preperation for WAR, that was a bad move, even with all it's flaws AoC is still much better than WAR.  I'm going to resub to AoC and just wait for all the people who jumped to WAR to come back after their 30 day sub is up. 

 

I agree AoC is miles ahead of war in combat and gameplay. WAR is boring and a real grind to level, with the animation glitches and bugged mobs - the game is in a sorry state. AoC's revoluitionery combat mechanics really spoiled us i guess and WAR is a step backwards.  Im playing AoC and loving it, the servers are jam packed.

supbro, you have never played WAR. I have seen you around the AoC boards swearing on it being the greatest MMO ever and WAR sucking, so your posts don't even have a shred of credibility.

Originally posted by supbro

Originally posted by Dreizack1

I've been waiting for WAR for years and I was really excited when I was able to get into the open beta.  After downloading 10gb's and installing the game, I have to say it F**cking sucks.

WAR is a WoW clone and a bad one at that, the combat is slower, looting is a pain, the graphics/UI are the same and it's just plain boring.  I'm not a big fan of WoW either, but I would much rather play it than spend anymore time in an unimaginative clone MMO with no innovation. 

I quit AoC in preperation for WAR, that was a bad move, even with all it's flaws AoC is still much better than WAR.  I'm going to resub to AoC and just wait for all the people who jumped to WAR to come back after their 30 day sub is up. 

 

I agree AoC is miles ahead of war in combat and gameplay. WAR is boring and a real grind to level, with the animation glitches and bugged mobs - the game is in a sorry state. AoC's revoluitionery combat mechanics really spoiled us i guess and WAR is a step backwards.  Im playing AoC and loving it, the servers are jam packed.

Buahhahahah.  Jam packed with what?  With NPC's?  But isnt every MMO jam packed with them?

Please explain how button mashing is "innovative".  It is nothing new from any other Button Mashing MMO out there.

Originally posted by supbro

Originally posted by Dreizack1

I've been waiting for WAR for years and I was really excited when I was able to get into the open beta.  After downloading 10gb's and installing the game, I have to say it F**cking sucks.

WAR is a WoW clone and a bad one at that, the combat is slower, looting is a pain, the graphics/UI are the same and it's just plain boring.  I'm not a big fan of WoW either, but I would much rather play it than spend anymore time in an unimaginative clone MMO with no innovation. 

I quit AoC in preperation for WAR, that was a bad move, even with all it's flaws AoC is still much better than WAR.  I'm going to resub to AoC and just wait for all the people who jumped to WAR to come back after their 30 day sub is up. 

 

I agree AoC is miles ahead of war in combat and gameplay. WAR is boring and a real grind to level, with the animation glitches and bugged mobs - the game is in a sorry state. AoC's revoluitionery combat mechanics really spoiled us i guess and WAR is a step backwards.  Im playing AoC and loving it, the servers are jam packed.

Pot, meet Kettle.  Kettle, meet Pot.  I hate to tell you this, but you're both black.  :p

I think it's rich that someone is nitpicking prelaunch bugs by comparing the game to AoC.  Sorry, but AoC launched with animation and pathing errors, too.  Also, the 4.1.1 patch that came out for WAR yesterday almost completely resolved those mob bugs. 

WAR has fewer bugs at the end of open beta than AoC did.  Anyone who tries to claim otherwise has been drinking Erling Ellingson's kool-aid just a little too long.

Originally posted by Dreizack1

I've been waiting for WAR for years and I was really excited when I was able to get into the open beta.  After downloading 10gb's and installing the game, I have to say it F**cking sucks.

WAR is a WoW clone and a bad one at that, the combat is slower, looting is a pain, the graphics/UI are the same and it's just plain boring.  I'm not a big fan of WoW either, but I would much rather play it than spend anymore time in an unimaginative clone MMO with no innovation. 

I quit AoC in preperation for WAR, that was a bad move, even with all it's flaws AoC is still much better than WAR.  I'm going to resub to AoC and just wait for all the people who jumped to WAR to come back after their 30 day sub is up. 

Ive seen a few threads trying to bring down WAR, but this is prob the weakest argument ive seen.

Your not even a good troll 

Originally posted by supbro

Originally posted by Dreizack1

I've been waiting for WAR for years and I was really excited when I was able to get into the open beta.  After downloading 10gb's and installing the game, I have to say it F**cking sucks.

WAR is a WoW clone and a bad one at that, the combat is slower, looting is a pain, the graphics/UI are the same and it's just plain boring.  I'm not a big fan of WoW either, but I would much rather play it than spend anymore time in an unimaginative clone MMO with no innovation. 

I quit AoC in preperation for WAR, that was a bad move, even with all it's flaws AoC is still much better than WAR.  I'm going to resub to AoC and just wait for all the people who jumped to WAR to come back after their 30 day sub is up. 

 

I agree AoC is miles ahead of war in combat and gameplay. WAR is boring and a real grind to level, with the animation glitches and bugged mobs - the game is in a sorry state. AoC's revoluitionery combat mechanics really spoiled us i guess and WAR is a step backwards.  Im playing AoC and loving it, the servers are jam packed.

Heres a Cookie for you..   im happy for AOC i hope it gets Millions so they have stuff to kill.. Wheeee!

All this anger !  makes me yawn...