WAR (Warhammer Online)

Originally posted by Cereo

Very well written, even your rebuttal about WoW was very clear and truthful. I hope this helps people have a little different perspective on what WAR is and what is tries to do.

Addition, to the guy above, what sort of quests do you want? I been doing similar questions like that since I was playing Nintendo, its never once bothered me.

Yah, I'm used to those quests too, after playing countless F2P MMOs, i.e. silkroad, archlord, perfectworld.

Originally posted by Aethios

 

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Originally posted by banthis
Yes lets compare a game thats had an expansion to a game thats brand new.

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Yes, let's. Part of the problem with the WAR fanbois is that they insist on comparing WAR to WoW as it was 4 years ago. I'm not playing WoW 4 years ago, I'm playing it now.

Regardless, WoW then was better than WAR is now, so it's a moot argument.

No it was not, WOW had a very poor pvp  implementation, broken classes and constant server lag and server crash as soon as you had some pvp going and 3 hours queues for a couple months. 

WAR launch is fantastic compared to WOW..

I like both game and gonna play the next wow expansion but your just lying or delusional

Originally posted by Aethios

 

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Originally posted by WSIMike
Of course, thinking about it, there are also the people out there who will play a certain way, assume it is the only way to play, shun any other alternatives, and then blame the company for making it "too linear". Not that you or anyone else here is doing that, but I see it alot. Players blaming the developers for their own self-imposed limited playstyle.

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That's exactly what's happening here. The OP is trying to say WAR has more PvE content than WoW, and when we point out that it doesn't, the trolls come in and say "well nobody uses that content" and then try to pretend it doesn't exist. Then later they turn it around and try to act like WAR is actually MORE linear than WoW (which it is, but contradicts their earlier argument) and that ALSO somehow makes it better.

When does the double-talk and backtracking stop and when will the trolls finally get what's coming to them? I'm tired of arguing with people who obviously have an agenda, and have no interest in facts or even opinions (other than their own).

You are a troll... You are posting your Pro-WoW propaganda on the WAR forums.  You come here and start an arguement that has been played out many times. 

The fact is WoW funnels together.  The 3 races on the desert continent on horde side (haven't played WoW in 1.5 years or so..) all go to the barrens.  Really no way around it, the only choice is to head over to the Undead area and do that..

two more path was added with TBC.  The Dwarves/gnomes have an area, the NEs have an area, and the Humans have an area.  That's 3 different ones. So, We got 2 for horde and 3 for alliance at release.  Then after than.. they really do have a set path where the 8 races overlap (these quests have the best gear, most Xp.. ETC best drops..)

Since WAR is a new game, we haven't discovered these yet (and every quest gives a class specific reward or just straight XP)

That brings us to the next point...

The best question is:

"When will the WoW trolls stick to the WoW boards where they can post all the negative WAR threads/rebuttles/comments they want?"

warhammer has tons and tons of exploration content. I think this is what makes warhammer pve great. This is thanx to the tome of knowledge which is truely awsome and requires you to explore to solve the puzzles and find the tasks etc. I think its awesome and gives loads of depth to warhammer pve.

There's hidden content all over the place, stuff you can trigger etc. I've not seen such cool exploration content in an mmorpgs in ages.

You gotta pay attention to whats there, if you pretty much ignore the exploration and tome of knowledge you are not seeing whats all offered.

Its true when wow first released there were alot of dead zones in the later levels where you were required to grind. We have all tried it , you just obviously didnt try it in open beta or when it was first released lol =P

Despite the weird mob movement, animations and pathing, WAR has a FAR better PvE starting game and mid-game than any MMO I've personally played. Can't speak for the endgame, though.

do we really need pve when we can do even rvr scenarios from lvl1 and level up with?

Originally posted by Aethios

 

 

Yes, let's. Part of the problem with the WAR fanbois is that they insist on comparing WAR to WoW as it was 4 years ago. I'm not playing WoW 4 years ago, I'm playing it now.

Regardless, WoW then was better than WAR is now, so it's a moot argument.

If you think all mmo's should come up to the standard of one that has been out four years then you are an idiot. Considering wows budget it is lacking on content and game play, it has become stale and old. I have been playing it since day one, and while war has it problems, I have found it to be great.

The wow devs have left the game to rot, lich king is a poor after thought with more of the same, as they put all their resources into their new mmo. Wow is dead game wise, and if millions of lemming’s want to keep playing let them, I have jumped onto war with my son and we will be staying for some time to come.

War is better now than wow was at launch, in fact I have done more in the first ten levels that was fun that you would not do in the first 50/60 of wow, even today.
 

Originally posted by aurick

Originally posted by wozzu

 

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Originally posted by aurick
There were big dead zones [in WoW] that left you with no options other than to grind meaningless mobs for a while. WAR has more PvE, by far.

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WoW had big dead zones at launch?

You should try playing WoW sometime, you might like it.

 

Just for the record:  I HAVE played WoW.  A lot.  In fact, I got into it at the tail end of beta and played that game almost exclusively for a good 3 or 4 years.  I was one of the founders of what became the largest and oldest guild on our server.  Then several of us changed servers to play Horde.  All told, I have six level 70 characters.

Yes, I've played WoW.  A lot.

And yes, WoW had content dead zones at launch.  By "zones" I'm referring to ranges within the leveling progression.  Points in your career where you ran out of quests and had to grind for a while.  (Although in fairness, Deadwind Pass is a physical zone and at launch it had nothing.  Just a few max level mobs with no loot.  Silithus wasn't much better either, if you'll recall.)

Anyway, remember Dustwallow Marsh before they revamped it with more quests and a better layout?  Not much going on, and if you were smart you spent half your time in that zone killing EVERYTHING as you traveled to and from your quest objectives.  Otherwise, you'd finish the quests and still not be high enough level for the next quest content.

For that matter, anyone who's ever read Joanna's Leveling Guide knows how the expert on WoW leveling recommends certain places for certain points in your career where you grind random mobs the last stretch of the distance to your next level.  Level 39, for example, is almost all grinding in that guide.

Today it's a bit of a different story.  You can actually skip entire zones and still get to max level without having to grind.  In fact, I now skip Stranglethorn Vale entirely because it's pure misery on a PvP server.  But WoW didn't accomplish that by adding more content.  They accomplished it by reducing the amount of XP that's required to level.  In other words, WoW cheated.

heh Dustwallow and Deadwind pass were my favourite zones to hang out in.  no one ever went there and there was basically no quests to do whatsoever.  same thing in that place where the portal opened,  or the zone next to it (the one with the green dragon temple),  they both had almost no quests at all.  i loved it because i could grind in peace and enjoy the sights .

as for WAR's PvE.  i think i will enjoy it just for the fact that i am playing (insert favourite warhammer class) in the Warhammar world.  i hope dungeons are available and are run regularly (i do love tanking and healing) and i hope there is a strong PvE side to the game for when i get bored of PvP