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Ginaz  9/20/08 9:31:00 PM

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So, I made a post in the general discussion forum, asking which servers where listed as very heavy or heavy.

www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/203068

The purpose was to get the number of servers with very heavy or heavy servers.  I was hoping to get answers from people who still played the game.  The numbers I got was pretty much what I was expecting.  Out of 25 servers only 3, sometimes 5, are listed as very heavy or heavy on a regular basis.  That leaves around 20 servers as medium, light or very light.  Now I know that doesn't mean much on its own.  No one really knows the numbers associated with the server loads.  However, I think it can be reasonably estimated.

Lets assume that the most any swg server can have for population is 5000 people.  Some people might think that the servers can hold more, but 5000 is pretty much the upper limit for most servers, esp. ones that are more than 5 years old.  So, 5000 max on 3 to 5 servers.  I think its fair to say that none of those servers is at 5000.  So, being generous, lets say that each of the 3 heavy servers have an average of 3000 players.  Thats 9000 people.  Lets say the other 2 that are borderline heavy have 2000 people for a total of 13k between the 5 most populated servers.  Now lets look at the rest.  We have 20 servers that are medium or light/very light.  Of the 2 that are medium, we'll say theres 1000 people on each.  Now we're up to a total of 15k.  Now we're down to the 18 that are light or very light.  Since its generaly accepted that all those servers are basically dead, I think its safe to estimate that theres between 3000-5000 left on the 18 servers.  That leaves us at a grand total of around 20k players.

Now, I know I'm going to get the usual suspects that will dispute the numbers.  I realize theres no way of knowing for sure how many each server can hold, but I think 5000 is pretty reasonable number.  Considering the average WoW server has around 2500 players.... www.warcraftrealms.com/activity.php ... I would say a 5000 max for the swg servers is realistic.  If any of my calculations are off, blame my Grade 11, pity pass math skills.  I think they're pretty close though.

Discuss.

 

BTW, I think I was being pretty generous with my estimates.

 
EbenEmael  9/20/08 9:38:06 PM

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Originally posted by Ginaz

So, I made a post in the general discussion forum, asking which servers where listed as very heavy or heavy.

www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/203068

The purpose was to get the number of servers with very heavy or heavy servers.  I was hoping to get answers from people who still played the game.  The numbers I got was pretty much what I was expecting.  Out of 25 servers only 3, sometimes 5, are listed as very heavy or heavy on a regular basis.  That leaves around 20 servers as medium, light or very light.  Now I know that doesn't mean much on its own.  No one really knows the numbers associated with the server loads.  However, I think it can be reasonably estimated.

Lets assume that the most any swg server can have for population is 5000 people.  Some people might think that the servers can hold more, but 5000 is pretty much the upper limit for most servers, esp. ones that are more than 5 years old.  So, 5000 max on 3 to 5 servers.  I think its fair to say that none of those servers is at 5000.  So, being generous, lets say that each of the 3 heavy servers have an average of 3000 players.  Thats 9000 people.  Lets say the other 2 that are borderline heavy have 2000 people for a total of 13k between the 5 most populated servers.  Now lets look at the rest.  We have 20 servers that are medium or light/very light.  Of the 2 that are medium, we'll say theres 1000 people on each.  Now we're up to a total of 15k.  Now we're down to the 18 that are light or very light.  Since its generaly accepted that all those servers are basically dead, I think its safe to estimate that theres between 3000-5000 left on the 18 servers.  That leaves us at a grand total of around 20k players.

Now, I know I'm going to get the usual suspects that will dispute the numbers.  I realize theres no way of knowing for sure how many each server can hold, but I think 5000 is pretty reasonable number.  Considering the average WoW server has around 2500 players.... www.warcraftrealms.com/activity.php ... I would say a 5000 max for the swg servers is realistic.  If any of my calculations are off, blame my Grade 11, pity pass math skills.  I think they're pretty close though.

Discuss.

 

BTW, I think I was being pretty generous with my estimates.

I just checked again and this is what I found:

25 servers, 6 medium, 3 light , 16 very light.

I have seen no heavy servers today (but I don't check that often). I have not seen a very heavy server in years although I don't doubt that there have been some on occasion.

You pretty much forget about see any very heavy servers. This may only happen during a special event like a new publish or live event.

 
Ginaz  9/20/08 9:39:51 PM

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Originally posted by EbenEmael
Originally posted by Ginaz

So, I made a post in the general discussion forum, asking which servers where listed as very heavy or heavy.

www.mmorpg.com/discussion2.cfm/thread/203068

The purpose was to get the number of servers with very heavy or heavy servers.  I was hoping to get answers from people who still played the game.  The numbers I got was pretty much what I was expecting.  Out of 25 servers only 3, sometimes 5, are listed as very heavy or heavy on a regular basis.  That leaves around 20 servers as medium, light or very light.  Now I know that doesn't mean much on its own.  No one really knows the numbers associated with the server loads.  However, I think it can be reasonably estimated.

Lets assume that the most any swg server can have for population is 5000 people.  Some people might think that the servers can hold more, but 5000 is pretty much the upper limit for most servers, esp. ones that are more than 5 years old.  So, 5000 max on 3 to 5 servers.  I think its fair to say that none of those servers is at 5000.  So, being generous, lets say that each of the 3 heavy servers have an average of 3000 players.  Thats 9000 people.  Lets say the other 2 that are borderline heavy have 2000 people for a total of 13k between the 5 most populated servers.  Now lets look at the rest.  We have 20 servers that are medium or light/very light.  Of the 2 that are medium, we'll say theres 1000 people on each.  Now we're up to a total of 15k.  Now we're down to the 18 that are light or very light.  Since its generaly accepted that all those servers are basically dead, I think its safe to estimate that theres between 3000-5000 left on the 18 servers.  That leaves us at a grand total of around 20k players.

Now, I know I'm going to get the usual suspects that will dispute the numbers.  I realize theres no way of knowing for sure how many each server can hold, but I think 5000 is pretty reasonable number.  Considering the average WoW server has around 2500 players.... www.warcraftrealms.com/activity.php ... I would say a 5000 max for the swg servers is realistic.  If any of my calculations are off, blame my Grade 11, pity pass math skills.  I think they're pretty close though.

Discuss.

 

BTW, I think I was being pretty generous with my estimates.

I just checked again and this is what I found:

25 servers, 6 medium, 3 light , 16 very light.

I have seen no heavy servers today (but I don't check that often). I have not seen a heavy server in years although I don't doubt that there have been some on occasion.

You pretty much forget about see any very heavy servers. This may only happen during a special event like a new publish or live event.

Like I said, I was being generous.

 
EbenEmael  9/20/08 9:43:48 PM

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The best way to get the server ratings (light, medium, etc) is to login, if you have an active account. If you go to the character creation screen that asks which server you want it lists the ratings for all servers. I would do this 4-5 times on Friday through Sunday (morning, noon, afternoon, night).

RED ALERT!!! Bria just went HEAVY... All 50 players must have logged on at the same time. Call the President!

 
SioBabble  9/20/08 9:55:07 PM

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The SOE server estimates are estimates and the labels mean NOTHING.

They can very easily manipulate "heavy" to mean four people are logged in.

What matters are numbers, not SOE's bogus labels.

SOE will NEVER release raw numbers.

The ONLY thing that counts is if you log in and see how many avatars are around.

We KNOW that there are far fewer at any given time now than there were prior to the NGE, let alone the CU.  This is through very simple observation.

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EbenEmael  9/20/08 9:59:16 PM

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Originally posted by SioBabble

The SOE server estimates are estimates and the labels mean NOTHING.

They can very easily manipulate "heavy" to mean four people are logged in.

What matters are numbers, not SOE's bogus labels.

SOE will NEVER release raw numbers.

The ONLY thing that counts is if you log in and see how many avatars are around.

We KNOW that there are far fewer at any given time now than there were prior to the NGE, let alone the CU.  This is through very simple observation.

I totally agree. Back before the CU you could find people in any player city you went to (during the day, Intrepid server). There would be entertainers in the player city cantinas and people shopping in the malls. All mostly gone now.

 
Abrahmm  9/20/08 10:02:22 PM

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Originally posted by SioBabble

The SOE server estimates are estimates and the labels mean NOTHING.

They can very easily manipulate "heavy" to mean four people are logged in.

What matters are numbers, not SOE's bogus labels.

SOE will NEVER release raw numbers.

The ONLY thing that counts is if you log in and see how many avatars are around.

We KNOW that there are far fewer at any given time now than there were prior to the NGE, let alone the CU.  This is through very simple observation.

 

Yep, this is 100% true.

OP, you cannot by any means of the imagination make a guestimation of population based on what the "Server load" is rated at by SOE. I remember seeing quite a few threads claiming SOE changed them because the medium that used to be listed was way more populated than the medium they were seeing then.

SOE can change those ratings to mean show whatever they want(if there code monkeys can figure out how that is). They could change heavy to mean 5 people, from which you would log on tomorrow and see every server as heavy(the fanbois would be all over this claiming the population was booming). The heavy-medium-light ratings me ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

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Ginaz  9/20/08 10:24:51 PM

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Originally posted by Abrahmm
Originally posted by SioBabble

The SOE server estimates are estimates and the labels mean NOTHING.

They can very easily manipulate "heavy" to mean four people are logged in.

What matters are numbers, not SOE's bogus labels.

SOE will NEVER release raw numbers.

The ONLY thing that counts is if you log in and see how many avatars are around.

We KNOW that there are far fewer at any given time now than there were prior to the NGE, let alone the CU.  This is through very simple observation.

 

Yep, this is 100% true.

OP, you cannot by any means of the imagination make a guestimation of population based on what the "Server load" is rated at by SOE. I remember seeing quite a few threads claiming SOE changed them because the medium that used to be listed was way more populated than the medium they were seeing then.

SOE can change those ratings to mean show whatever they want(if there code monkeys can figure out how that is). They could change heavy to mean 5 people, from which you would log on tomorrow and see every server as heavy(the fanbois would be all over this claiming the population was booming). The heavy-medium-light ratings me ABSOLUTELY NOTHING.

I wasn't basing it on what soe says the numbers are.  I was using my own estimates based on the number of players an mmo server can hold.  The average number of players on a WoW server is around 2500.  The server I play on in WoW is listed as a medium population server, which means it probably has close to the average of 2500, which seems about right from my experience. 

I wasn't defending soe, my point was to counter statements by certain people who make wild claims about swg's current population, either giving numbers that are way too high (like over 100k) or way too low (like 4k).  And if you cared to read what I wrote you would see that I was being generous with the numbers.