WAR (Warhammer Online)

Originally posted by Magsato

Originally posted by Simkyn

Well if thats the case, maybe pick a different server. I still think it'll balance out. It's a fluid situation which could change on a daily basis. Who knows. Just pick servers where the balance is how you like it, and you should be fine.

While that may work for a single player it doesnt work for guilds. You cant just tell everyone to re roll on another server and hope for the best there. I know I for one dont want to play the 1-15 game anymore, I did that about 5 times now, not even counting for multiple classes.

Balance is effed atm, because there is none unless your on a full server. the KotBS needs to be put in regardless of state because we NEED tanks to balance the game.

I've been reading a lot of posts worrying about balance on the WHA forums. One guy made an interesting point that the aesthetics of destruction vs order is the biggest threat to the success of the game right now.

Yes and haveing no chance of winning an open RvR castle to get your T2 renown gear lose's it's luster really quickly.

Originally posted by Newhopes

Yes and haveing no chance of winning an open RvR castle to get your T2 renown gear lose's it's luster really quickly.

I know thats been a problem for me. I havent gotten renown gear since I left tier 1. Its a joke and the longer it goes on the less I want to play, I was planning on playing WAR alot but honestly I cant stommach more then an hour or so at a time because I dont want to just quest and grind PQs all day. Scenarios are nifty but more often then not we lose tier 2 scenarios because they are all some sort of flag hold and WE HAVE NO TANKS to protect and hold the flag and all we fight are tanks on the destruction side.

The server I'm on seems to be balanced very well. On looking at the servers it says high on both order and destruction, sometimes locked on destruction sometimes. Still even with that going on, we get our asses handed to us every now and then. The last few times I've logged on and did any RvR, it's been a loss to Order. So again, I think it's a server thing. I'm on Ironfist and the balance is really decent.

Originally posted by xaldraxius

It is also because of the people who are playing each side. Order players tend to be a bit more solo oriented, while Destruction players have a more ganglike mentality. Also Order players are more prone to role playing and PvE, and Destruction has more hardcore PvPers. That's a broad generalization and I am sure there are many exceptions to that, but as a whole it is an accurate statement.

Unfortunately as time goes by we are going to see Order populations dropping off as Order players grow tired of the shallow PvE while Destruction players revel in their dominance.

There needs to be a third faction like in DAoC. I don't think there is any in the lore of the Warhammer universe, but I'm not that familier with Warhammer, so I could be wrong.

Well, actually, in the Warhammer universe, almost every race hates and wants to exterminate every other race. Humans and Dwarves have an alliance in the actual lore, not sure about the High Elves, the Dark Elves, Orks, and Chaos would NEVER work together unless they had some mutual enemy or something.

This gets even worst when you get into the WH40k universe when the Eldar (think High Elves in space) will basically kill any other race. Same goes for the Chaos, Orks, Dark Eldar, and many of the other races.

Originally posted by Simkyn

The server I'm on seems to be balanced very well. On looking at the servers it says high on both order and destruction, sometimes locked on destruction sometimes. Still even with that going on, we get our asses handed to us every now and then. The last few times I've logged on and did any RvR, it's been a loss to Order. So again, I think it's a server thing. I'm on Ironfist and the balance is really decent.

Again, high/high and full/full servers dont have any problems because there are equal numbers of players. What we are talking about isevery server EXCEPT for the 5 or 6 who have those large populations. They are effed in terms of balance and no fun to play Order at all.

Yeah after being compelety destroyed all day long i'm not gonna bother with pvp anymore, i don't mind losing but when we don't even stand a chance then that is something else, i'll just keep with the pve then i dunno after that...

if you asking whats the point of playing order maybe you should play dest :)

I think the typical order player plays order not cos its cool or pwns everyone.. but cos its order, the ligh, the right choice for whoever cares about everyone around and not just himself/herself.

Its still early in WAR, give it a few months, eventually the servers will settle down.  Take the experience of DAoC.  When the servers settle down, we know which side is having an upper hand in a certain server and vice versa on another server.  If its a full blown advantage of one side on all servers, expect a nerfing bat.  If its just server imbalance, its up to mystic to encourage more new entrants for the losing side.

Say in those days, Midgards dominates in the Percival server (before the calamity of ToA).  While Albians rules on another one (name I forgot).  Given such situation, the developers cannot nerf anyone.  What they did is they beefed up the Hibs eventually (after I left the game, I heard about it).  On the other hand, they can encourage ppl to join the losing side by expediting the levelling process there, say you can start as lvl 30 with a decent set of armor on selected sides of selected servers.  Trust Mystic, they will try to help the imbalance.  They want RvR to be fun so they can enjoy subscription fees.

Its too early to say Detro wins, especially since much of the raids and many classes are still missing or being tuned.  It will take time before we see the patterns, before players learn how to make use of their alts, before gangs are formed, solid core raid parties who can beat casual PUGs of equal numbers.

If you must play on the winning side now, go destro.  Its true there are far fewer ppl on the order side.  Dwarf starter towns are ghost towns during low population hours.  If you love the dwarves, like I do, you will go and die as a dwarf, and feel honored.  If you are not in a hurry, play both and see which side finally wins your heart.  I have a dwarf on one server, and I am planning to start an orc or whatever on another.