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Obee  9/22/08 1:24:09 AM

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I'm bloody sick of hearing that "SOE can't do anything right" or whatever. And this is the probably fiftieth thread I've seen in two months or less blaming the Dev team or SOE in general. So excuse me being a little bit more than "cranky." We pay them, to play their game. They can do whatever they please with it. They own it. We're just "renting space" in the game, that's all. You can't tell them what to do unless you own company stock..... And even then......

I can't even comprehend that mentality.  That goes beyond Stockholm Syndrome.  Unbelievable...

 

 

 
Esquire1980  9/22/08 1:29:55 AM

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I've seen the same thing over and over again.  This set of "devs" are looked at by some, as the saving grace of SWG.  I still have no idea why.

At least Kauri had "some" population under the last set.  Now, it's dead server after dead server.

http://forums.station.sony.com/swg/posts/list.m?topic_id=751373

 
Orthedos  9/22/08 2:13:41 AM

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Originally posted by Obee

 

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I'm bloody sick of hearing that "SOE can't do anything right" or whatever. And this is the probably fiftieth thread I've seen in two months or less blaming the Dev team or SOE in general. So excuse me being a little bit more than "cranky." We pay them, to play their game. They can do whatever they please with it. They own it. We're just "renting space" in the game, that's all. You can't tell them what to do unless you own company stock..... And even then......

I can't even comprehend that mentality.  That goes beyond Stockholm Syndrome.  Unbelievable...

 

 


 

What is wrong with his statement, 100% correct.  You don't comprehend his mentality.  What about his mentality?  He stated something correct, and you have issues with it?

You rented a movie, and half way through you disagree with the way the main actor treats his wife.  So you send an email demanding a change in script and refilming, or you sue Fox or Disney?  Try it.

You only pay $15 for a month, and you think you have the rights to decide on how the game should be developed?  Only $15 and you think you are god.  Go count your contributions again.  Its $15 and yes only a merge pitiful pathetic dismal $15.  Stop feeling big about it.

You are 100% entitled to feeling unhappy about the game.  Quit it, like many of us did.  That is all you can do.  You have no say in SoE or whatever the new department is now called.  They own the game, and you have the option to subscribe or quit.  Sorry that is all you can do.  As for owning Sony Corporation, dream on.

 
GrandAm  9/22/08 2:51:50 AM

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Originally posted by Orthedos
Originally posted by Obee

 

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I'm bloody sick of hearing that "SOE can't do anything right" or whatever. And this is the probably fiftieth thread I've seen in two months or less blaming the Dev team or SOE in general. So excuse me being a little bit more than "cranky." We pay them, to play their game. They can do whatever they please with it. They own it. We're just "renting space" in the game, that's all. You can't tell them what to do unless you own company stock..... And even then......

I can't even comprehend that mentality.  That goes beyond Stockholm Syndrome.  Unbelievable...

 

 


 

What is wrong with his statement, 100% correct.  You don't comprehend his mentality.  What about his mentality?  He stated something correct, and you have issues with it?

You rented a movie, and half way through you disagree with the way the main actor treats his wife.  So you send an email demanding a change in script and refilming, or you sue Fox or Disney?  Try it.

You only pay $15 for a month, and you think you have the rights to decide on how the game should be developed?  Only $15 and you think you are god.  Go count your contributions again.  Its $15 and yes only a merge pitiful pathetic dismal $15.  Stop feeling big about it.

You are 100% entitled to feeling unhappy about the game.  Quit it, like many of us did.  That is all you can do.  You have no say in SoE or whatever the new department is now called.  They own the game, and you have the option to subscribe or quit.  Sorry that is all you can do.  As for owning Sony Corporation, dream on.


 

Actually I as a consumer do have a right to tell any company how to do their business.  I say it with my wallet.  If they want what is in it they will listen.  If they don't care, they won't.

Yes, I have quit it.  But just because I have quit it doesn't mean I have no right to criticize or commend them for their actions.  I choose to generally criticize.

As far as me owning Sony and  dream on, well if they want my money I do.

To prove this they keep giving me and others free play time with original subbed toons.  They must want me very badly.  How many current subscribers paid for their account time when I and others get to play for free?  How much of their money was given to me by Sony?

 
iwantmyswg  9/22/08 4:11:29 AM

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Originally posted by Orthedos
Originally posted by Obee

 

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Quote:

I'm bloody sick of hearing that "SOE can't do anything right" or whatever. And this is the probably fiftieth thread I've seen in two months or less blaming the Dev team or SOE in general. So excuse me being a little bit more than "cranky." We pay them, to play their game. They can do whatever they please with it. They own it. We're just "renting space" in the game, that's all. You can't tell them what to do unless you own company stock..... And even then......

I can't even comprehend that mentality.  That goes beyond Stockholm Syndrome.  Unbelievable...

 

 


 

What is wrong with his statement, 100% correct.  You don't comprehend his mentality.  What about his mentality?  He stated something correct, and you have issues with it?

You rented a movie, and half way through you disagree with the way the main actor treats his wife.  So you send an email demanding a change in script and refilming, or you sue Fox or Disney?  Try it.

You only pay $15 for a month, and you think you have the rights to decide on how the game should be developed?  Only $15 and you think you are god.  Go count your contributions again.  Its $15 and yes only a merge pitiful pathetic dismal $15.  Stop feeling big about it.

You are 100% entitled to feeling unhappy about the game.  Quit it, like many of us did.  That is all you can do.  You have no say in SoE or whatever the new department is now called.  They own the game, and you have the option to subscribe or quit.  Sorry that is all you can do.  As for owning Sony Corporation, dream on.


 

you are right i pay $15 a month for a game.

so i own a part in that game. and those working on the game better understand that they work for me and everyone who pays.

and in the case of swg we have demanded that they give us back our pre-cu system. we are there bosses and we should have more of a say into what go's into our game.

 
Warmaker  9/22/08 6:14:21 AM

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Originally posted by Orthedos
Originally posted by Obee

 

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Quote:

I'm bloody sick of hearing that "SOE can't do anything right" or whatever. And this is the probably fiftieth thread I've seen in two months or less blaming the Dev team or SOE in general. So excuse me being a little bit more than "cranky." We pay them, to play their game. They can do whatever they please with it. They own it. We're just "renting space" in the game, that's all. You can't tell them what to do unless you own company stock..... And even then......

I can't even comprehend that mentality.  That goes beyond Stockholm Syndrome.  Unbelievable...

 

 


 

What is wrong with his statement, 100% correct.  You don't comprehend his mentality.  What about his mentality?  He stated something correct, and you have issues with it?

You rented a movie, and half way through you disagree with the way the main actor treats his wife.  So you send an email demanding a change in script and refilming, or you sue Fox or Disney?  Try it.

You only pay $15 for a month, and you think you have the rights to decide on how the game should be developed?  Only $15 and you think you are god.  Go count your contributions again.  Its $15 and yes only a merge pitiful pathetic dismal $15.  Stop feeling big about it.

You are 100% entitled to feeling unhappy about the game.  Quit it, like many of us did.  That is all you can do.  You have no say in SoE or whatever the new department is now called.  They own the game, and you have the option to subscribe or quit.  Sorry that is all you can do.  As for owning Sony Corporation, dream on.


 

Sweet, it's been a while since we had a visit from one of "Smed's Kids."

Subscribing players to MMOs do have a say.  Several reasons why as a matter 'o fact.

1) These CUSTOMERS devote alot of their free time playing these MMOs, progressing their avatars' wealth, stature, skills, etc.  This isn't like a movie where you view it once or twice then never bother with it again.  MMO play requires alot of time if you expect to go anywhere with it.

2) The players... the CUSTOMERS... in an MMO do feel attachment for what they've done, what they've acquired in-game.  You repeatedly destroy what your CUSTOMERS have accomplished in-game, then be ready to pay the price.

3) Your CUSTOMERS in an MMO do form a COMMUNITY.  Well, any decent MMO would have a cohesive, active player community.  Piss-poor MMOs destroy them... "Oh, hi SWG NGE!  Didn't see you come in!"... Anyways, a good MMO will have a good player community that utilizes word of mouth to bring in more players.  SWG once had that in the Pre-CU/NGE days, even though the game had serious faults back then.

4) Money... $15 U.S. / Month from an individual subscription **IS** a drop in the bucket.  Honestly, companies give 2 sh*ts about a single dissatisfied customer.  That is a FACT.  But when they start seeing large numbers of dissatisfaction, people not wishing their services or products anymore, etc... then it's a big problem.

Again, SWG once had a healthy 250k population, some say 300k, during the Pre-CU days.  There was an exodus after the CU hit.  But the NGE pissed off enough people that the majority beat feet and left.  It was like severing a Femoral Artery in terms of subscriptions.  And $$$.

MMOs are very different from alot of other forms of entertainment, especially within games.  It shows their accomplishments with their characters.  It is why you hear some MMO players, when they found an MMO that they like, they call it their "home."

Many players used to call SWG "home" despite some glaring faults it had.

But SOE felt that WE weren't needed and wanted some bigger, more enthusiastic crowd that would come in and replace us after we left due to their sweeping changes.

Well, we left.

And we never were replaced.

So, companies may never give a rat's a** about what we feel about them or their products, or what they represent.

But they do care about money, especially if many people no longer wish to do business with them.

"The Empire always strikes back!" - Grand Admiral Pallaeon

Gutboy  9/22/08 6:30:55 AM

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Actually if SOE really cared about money they would roll back to Pre-CU, since they do not it shows they care more about the current subscriber then ever before in game.

 
Sandbox  9/22/08 6:34:57 AM

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Or it's Smedley caring about *his* job...

 
Warmaker  9/22/08 6:50:14 AM