Star Wars Galaxies

Originally posted by Gutboy

Actually if SOE really cared about money they would roll back to Pre-CU, since they do not it shows they care more about the current subscriber then ever before in game.

They haven't because they can't. They've got a skeleton crew, junior dev team looking after SWG now. They're unable to work on JTL without fucking shit up left and right. JTL is completely and utterly basic compared to pre-cu code, hell they couldn't handle pre-cu code after launch cos most of the guys responsible for writing it saw what was coming and gtfo outta dodge.

Originally posted by efefia

Originally posted by Gutboy

Actually if SOE really cared about money they would roll back to Pre-CU, since they do not it shows they care more about the current subscriber then ever before in game.

 

They haven't because they can't. They've got a skeleton crew, junior dev team looking after SWG now. They're unable to work on JTL without fucking shit up left and right. JTL is completely and utterly basic compared to pre-cu code, hell they couldn't handle pre-cu code after launch cos most of the guys responsible for writing it saw what was coming and gtfo outta dodge.

I would further add that if they really cared about their current subscribers over any other player base, they wouldn't be charging current subscribers their monthly subs during times when I get to play all my original accounts for free.  The current customers continue to pay while thousands get it for free every couple of months.

I guess you can say that is fine because those free players aren't allowed to post on the Oforums while the paying customers can.

If I had a two year lease on a car and making monthly payments, I would be upset if every two or three months that car company let previous and current non leasers drive a car just like mine for a month free with no obligation.  Even if they can't use the "On Star" service.

Originally posted by CasualMaker

Originally posted by Gutboy

Actually if SOE really cared about money they would roll back to Pre-CU, since they do not it shows they care more about the current subscriber then ever before in game.

 

I agree, and since I don't subscribe to the "it's pride pride all about pride!" view (at least on SOE's part, since I think they really are "all about the money"), this is one of the strongest underpinnings to my belief that such a decision is completely out of SOE's hands. They couldn't (ie. are not allowed to) do a roll-back or classic server if they wanted to.

I agree with you on the part about a rollback not being in SoE's hands.  Ive always believed that if they could rollback they would.  But are not allowed for some reason or another.  I could go on and on with my little conspiracy theory but we'll just leave it at that.  :)

Originally posted by Apache_

Originally posted by CasualMaker

Originally posted by Gutboy

Actually if SOE really cared about money they would roll back to Pre-CU, since they do not it shows they care more about the current subscriber then ever before in game.

 

I agree, and since I don't subscribe to the "it's pride pride all about pride!" view (at least on SOE's part, since I think they really are "all about the money"), this is one of the strongest underpinnings to my belief that such a decision is completely out of SOE's hands. They couldn't (ie. are not allowed to) do a roll-back or classic server if they wanted to.

 

I agree with you on the part about a rollback not being in SoE's hands.  Ive always believed that if they could rollback they would.  But are not allowed for some reason or another.  I could go on and on with my little conspiracy theory but we'll just leave it at that.  :)

I have a tin foil hat.  If you start a seperate thread so as not to derail this one, I'll put it on and read.

Originally posted by Gutboy

As a side note I have been playing since June 26th 2003 without a break other than 2 months in Dec 2005/Jan 2006. So I know exactly what has happened in game.

SOE knows that even if they did a rollback to Nov 14th 2005 they would not bring back players, and hey would then have to convert all the content since then to work in CU, it's not going to happen ever. The NGE has been in place longer than the pre-cu and CU combined.

 

All of the "content" added since Nov 15 has been from a scrapped expansion. Droid comander should be about the last of it. Unless you consider profession tweaks and few new collections that followed the first ones content. Just joking btw:)

Originally posted by Apache_

Originally posted by CasualMaker

Originally posted by Gutboy

Actually if SOE really cared about money they would roll back to Pre-CU, since they do not it shows they care more about the current subscriber then ever before in game.

 

I agree, and since I don't subscribe to the "it's pride pride all about pride!" view (at least on SOE's part, since I think they really are "all about the money"), this is one of the strongest underpinnings to my belief that such a decision is completely out of SOE's hands. They couldn't (ie. are not allowed to) do a roll-back or classic server if they wanted to.

 

I agree with you on the part about a rollback not being in SoE's hands.  Ive always believed that if they could rollback they would.  But are not allowed for some reason or another.  I could go on and on with my little conspiracy theory but we'll just leave it at that.  :)

Its way too late to rollback.

No classic servers Probably because it wouldnt be profitable for one of the companies. LEC would have to donate the use of their IP--not profitable, or SOE would have to give up a larger chunk of the revenue to LEC because they donated their IP--not profitable for SOE then. Just taking a wild guess of coarse.
 

Originally posted by Orthedos

 

What is wrong with his statement, 100% correct.  You don't comprehend his mentality.  What about his mentality?  He stated something correct, and you have issues with it?

You rented a movie, and half way through you disagree with the way the main actor treats his wife.  So you send an email demanding a change in script and refilming, or you sue Fox or Disney?  Try it.

You only pay $15 for a month, and you think you have the rights to decide on how the game should be developed?  Only $15 and you think you are god.  Go count your contributions again.  Its $15 and yes only a merge pitiful pathetic dismal $15.  Stop feeling big about it.

You are 100% entitled to feeling unhappy about the game.  Quit it, like many of us did.  That is all you can do.  You have no say in SoE or whatever the new department is now called.  They own the game, and you have the option to subscribe or quit.  Sorry that is all you can do.  As for owning Sony Corporation, dream on.

Why do people always make the dumbest analogy that could be made and then *ponder* why people tell them it was dumb.

If you took your family of 4 to see a movie.. at say $8 a ticket... $4.50 per soda and $4.50 per snack (that's what it cost here).

So you basicly just spent $150.. that's it just $150...   (I had 9 swg accounts at $15 per month for x amount of months in comparison).

Anyway to your little idea...

If halfway through the movie.. they stopped playing the one we paid for.. and turned on another one.. oddly enough they come in... apologize.. put the one we paid for back on.. and give us all a free movie ticket.

I went to see a movie and they accidently started the wrong one.. so we saw maybe 2 minutes of a "cartoon" instead of Jason Strathom or w/e...  they gave us all a free movie for "compensation".

I think that's more the analogy to be made with SWG pre-cu/cu/nge.

The arguement of course is long dead.. and you are right.. either you keep paying or you quit.

I just thought the analogy was bad...  I think enough people voted /quit that you'd think the "for profit" company would have gotten the message by now.. I don't really care what dev team they have on it... its dead to me.

Originally posted by Orthedos

Originally posted by Obee

 

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I'm bloody sick of hearing that "SOE can't do anything right" or whatever. And this is the probably fiftieth thread I've seen in two months or less blaming the Dev team or SOE in general. So excuse me being a little bit more than "cranky." We pay them, to play their game. They can do whatever they please with it. They own it. We're just "renting space" in the game, that's all. You can't tell them what to do unless you own company stock..... And even then......

I can't even comprehend that mentality.  That goes beyond Stockholm Syndrome.  Unbelievable...

 

 

 

What is wrong with his statement, 100% correct.  You don't comprehend his mentality.  What about his mentality?  He stated something correct, and you have issues with it?

You rented a movie, and half way through you disagree with the way the main actor treats his wife.  So you send an email demanding a change in script and refilming, or you sue Fox or Disney?  Try it.

You only pay $15 for a month, and you think you have the rights to decide on how the game should be developed?  Only $15 and you think you are god.  Go count your contributions again.  Its $15 and yes only a merge pitiful pathetic dismal $15.  Stop feeling big about it.

You are 100% entitled to feeling unhappy about the game.  Quit it, like many of us did.  That is all you can do.  You have no say in SoE or whatever the new department is now called.  They own the game, and you have the option to subscribe or quit.  Sorry that is all you can do.  As for owning Sony Corporation, dream on.

If somebody other than SOE is making the next SW MMO..and the negative word of mouth that SOE is drowning in had anything to do with it...then I figure we've cost SOE potentially hundreds of millions of dollars. Not to shabby. I have no idea if the decision to go with someone else was influenced at all by the 1000's of whiney vets or not..or if there is even another sw mmo being made at all, but if it has, your little rebuttal there is a tad off the mark. Not to mention..if we wanna play the classic version for free, well thats being worked on. Of coarse it's just as possible that we havent influenced anything and wont be seeing a good SW mmo made by a good company either. At least we tried. Better than sticking up for SOE's right to rip people off.

BTW..that 15 dolla is for the persitant world. That was the deal and anyone who really wanted a full refund could have gotten it had they gotten their lawyer to ask for it. Doesnt seem SOE even agrees with you then.