General Discussion

I refer to a post I made in the WoW forum's back in July.

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Originally posted by Sunrider
There's a few contributing factors to the dislike of WoW:

-They keep screwing over long-time players: If you've played before TBC you'll know what i mean by this, they keep taking all your hard-earned gear, which this game is centered around, and making it worthless with every expansion.

-Gear: This game is probably one of the most gear needy games that I know of. But its not just the gear, but its the fact that the best gear is acquired through hours upon hours of grinding and there is no player-made gear that is worth it.

-Crafting: The crafting is useless for the most part, aside from such things as repair bots, potions and the sorts. The best player crafted gear is Bind on Pickup. WTF. You waste like 5,000 gold on a recipe for a sword or armor, and make it ONCE, because you cant get any return from what you spent to get it. Whats worse is that then you go to a dungeon and find a sword to replace that one you made and you go "oh... well that was a waste of money".

-GRIND: Its cleverly disguised as a quest system "go bring me 20 pig intestines and I'll make you some soup". How many mother f*cking pigs do you have to kill to get there intestines???!! I've killed thousands of pigs and they're missing there entrails. There's something seriously wrong with this!! Bats without wings... pigs without guts... bandits without mask that clearly have mask... IT GETS OLD! But it doesn't stop there, no. Then you have the "gold grind". In NO other game have I come across a worse need for money. The repair bills are horrible for purple gear, and blacksmiths cant even fix it for a cheaper price to help them make some cash. Not only this but the crafting in the game doesn't let you make money. Hell, i have never played a game that the crafting is so horrible that you LOSE money selling things. You make more money selling the ingredients then the actual product. Something is very wrong with this system and Blizzard wonders why there are these gold farming companies making MINTS off of their game.

-Balance: So many people keep bitching about the balance between classes. MMO's are social games. Get this through your heads. You NEED other classes to complete objectives. No, I don't think you should ALWAYS need someone else to help you complete objectives, but yes for many things you should. If a warrior is out dps-ing a rogue, there's a problem. If a druid is out-healing a priest, there's a problem.

-PvP: As mentioned with the balance complaint, you're not meant to be the solution to all problems, but in WoW people play like that. As a warlock you shouldn't be able to go toe to toe with a warrior, but I've seen it done. There's something wrong with this... that and that gear is the ONLY influence over whos the better man in PvP.

Now aside from all these faulty game mechanics there is the problem of the awful community. I cant stand trade chat. I turn it off its just that awful. The forums are even worse.

The game itself has set the progression of MMO's back quite a few years as there is no thought, strategy or skills to create a good character. There is nothing innovative about the game at all.

Lastly a major obstacle that needs to be overcome by other developers is that they all want the numbers that WoW has. Its not going to happen and the financial backers of other developers want this. Because of this you need to find someone with faith in your development abilities and deep, deep pockets. WoW is a freak of nature and its success probably wont be recreated again. If any other game gets a million active subscribers then that will be a good day for games.

Overall WoW just shunts the growth of the genre as long as it remains as popular as it has. Because of this, other potential games that could have a lot to offer rarely make it out of the starting gate, and many people who started with WoW are now looking for the next thing, thats a little more advanced and has a little more depth then what WoW has to offer... and it wont happen for a while.

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Alright, if I've said anything bad about wow it's only because of my personal experience w/them.

I left the game after a few years of playing. In that time I believed things would get better so I kept holding on.

Initially the game pulled me in because I played a 2d game - seeing 3d was an improvement.

The community in-game was rude ok, downright mean. They didn't help ppl that asked questions, instead they made fun of them. If someone complained about something in chat - they would tag along and go on for hours about how their class was the one underpowered and screwed over. If you don't believe this, have a look at the forums, you don't even have to subscribe to see the negative environment.

I fell for it - the whole shebang. I posted on the forums and questioned things like why I was using a class that had a magical dps build but they refused to make magical dps gear in leather that matched the stats on cloth. Blizzard kept saying they would improve things. We all waited and they didn't. I got tired of it after the expansion came and little was done.

When guilded, I ran the repetitive raids just to be smacked in the face when told that I can't have  THAT gear, it goes to the cloth wearers. There were a few times I got something by handmedown, otherwise it was all decided in favor of the "real" magic users. The odd part is that when they were short a tank I would switch out as needed to a build that favored a tank and used bear form - I hate tanking ok, but I did it to aid groups that didn't care to aid me because of course, when tanking gear dropped it was for the "real" tanks. Lemme tell ya, being a hybrid in that game is drama you don't want - everyone wants you to do a job but refuses to allow you to use the gear to do it. You are left on your own to try to piece something together with rep grinds or crafted/quested items while the rest of the group is picking up fancy shinies that are made for their class. At some point this all became real apparent that my investment was quite one-sided.

The thing that made me finally go was when they finally gave my class a cc that was like 6 second duration that wouldn't let you be dmgd and ppl complained until that got watered down into a removable effect by any class with a trinket.

Even when I left ppl told me you'll be back - everyone leaves and returns because there are so many ppl here that they have us by the balls, to leave means you leave friends. You know, I cancelled and have never returned. I have no interest in returning to that disgusting community with devs that make fun of their players and promises they never follow thru with.

I guess if I say anything bad about the game it is from personal distaste, it wouldn't be just a distance judgment and that makes me able to judge the wow I knew as harshly as I would judge a restaurant that gave me food poisoning. I haven't even mentioned any of the in-game problems like quests not being able to be turned in and bosses bugging out or the fact that you were unable to participate in parts of the game w/out addons. It's just not a good game to me.

WoW is popular, not great. American Idol is popular too. Funny.

Originally posted by Briansho

Just because McDonalds serves over 10 million people each year doesn't mean its the best/healthiest food for you.

But does it possibly mean that McDonalds is the service best suited to "everybody's" needs/wants?

Originally posted by Dreamagram

Originally posted by Briansho

Just because McDonalds serves over 10 million people each year doesn't mean its the best/healthiest food for you.

But does it possibly mean that McDonalds is the service best suited to "everybody's" needs/wants?

no, it means that it's cheap, fast an easy.

Think of wow as the biggest kid in the block... Not everyone likes that.

Also since wow has many players it is the easiest game to troll, it will aways be a lot of players getting upset.

Toothpaste is popular too!  That must mean only World of Warcraft players brush their teeth.

Don't let the man keep you down, don't brush your teeth.

All I know is that I've played WoW and it wasn't a bad game but not really my cup of tea, although fantasy mmorpgs are my favorite.  I think the biggest problem with the game is the people that play it, not all don't get me wrong but most I've seen are a different breed of a-holes (pardon the language) and that leaves a bad taste in my mouth.

Originally posted by Dreamagram

Originally posted by Briansho

Just because McDonalds serves over 10 mi