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It's possible to challenge yourself even in a game like WoW.  For instance I have tried to play two characters at once and do an instance with just the two characters.  It's not an easy thing to accomplish if the instance is not grey to you. 

Aww haters. My heart bleeds for the companies and their moneybags.

Originally posted by teabag

Oh wait... IF WoW were that great then how come a troll like you trolling this thread instead of playing WoW like a troll?.

I do not believe in troll..

Thanks for making me spit water all over my keyboard bub.

WOW was fun in it's day but many of us are waiting for something new. That's no slight against WOW it's just old and dated. *Sigh* kinda like my beloved EQ1.

*Psst* I don't believe in Troll either..

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Originally posted by quixadhal
I think it's mostly because when you first play WoW, you think the game runs smooth, the graphics are decent, and the gameplay is dead simple.  So simple, 12 million monkeys could learn how to play it!
After you've played for a while, you think this is pretty repetative, but I know the endgame will rock so I'll keep grinding away and be ready to kick some butt!
When you get to the endgame, you realize that the game really is just as simple as it seemed in the newbie village at level 1, but the monsters got bigger, your shoulderpads got bigger, and it's more laggy now.  Now that you've slogged through all the content, it's time to sit back and watch while your Epic Pants play the game for you.
SOME of us like a little depth to our games. :)
 

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I want epic pants to do stuff for me... stupid wow and its lies. Every time WoW gets a new subscriber God kills a kitten...

geeze... blizzard has a lot of blood on their hands.

Just a question. Has anyone who bashes WoW actually made it to the PvP or Raiding endgame? Just a thought.

The problem with WoW for me is the player base.  They are retarded and it shows.  If I wanted to hang out with 12 -16 year olds, I would go hang out with my nephews and their friends.  I want a challenge and I want to play with people over 20.

Originally posted by wozzu

People hate Google, Microsoft, America, Wal-Mart, and WoW.

You can be successful, but if you are too successful you attract haters.

I think this is primarily the reason.

mainly because many players were fans of older mmos and I suppose they would champion a mmo that drew a similar kind of appeal. Along came WoW, however, presented a Mario-like approach to mmos whilst taking many of the design ideas from the other mmos, adding some polish and that drew a lot of attention. Fans of the older mmos are a little bit gutted as perhaps some of the appeals of mmos have been kind of dropped and there hasn't been any real good modern alternative to WoW till perhaps now with WAR and hopefully Tcos.

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Originally posted by Gamewize
Just a question. Has anyone who bashes WoW actually made it to the PvP or Raiding endgame? Just a thought.

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In fact alot of players from more hardcore games got there probably before alot of the people who defend it started playing.

People don't hate WoW, they hate that WoW pretty much killed innovation by giving gamers and easy game and making people expect an easy game.

There is no longer 5 other games to take a few elements from and then add alot of your own stuff on top of it. There is just WoW, becasue just a fraction of the WoW playerbase is enough to sustain another MMO for-pretty much-ever...

In the end, all you have are a bunch of crappy games. High subscription numbers aren't necessarily indicative of greatness. WoW is just easy, open, accessible, and you can hack it legally with add-ons.

Lol Quest Helpers. Lol add-ons that walk you through raid content. Such a joke.

Originally posted by wozzu

People hate Google, Microsoft, America, Wal-Mart, and WoW.

You can be successful, but if you are too successful you attract haters.

QFT.

Also:  @Gamewize who asked, "Just a question. Has anyone who bashes WoW actually made it to the PvP or Raiding endgame? Just a thought."

Our guild is in BT and Hyjal, we're not huge PvP'ers, but I'd say we "made it to the endgame," and I am still enjoying WoW.  Am I in FULL T6 yet?  No.  However, I don't think even if I WAS I would have run out of things to do.  But then again, I have maxed level crafters of every profession other than blacksmithing, which I'm going to work on next, and....our guild is just very active doing things like killing all of the Alliance faction leaders in mass