General Discussion

I'm still a bit careful about this game, at least until the beta is running and we got a real release date.

Right now my hopes are in Spellborn (and Guildwars 2, but thats more based on the programming team there, their past games talks for themselves, GW, Warcraft 3, Diablo 1).

Anyone knows any games the DF guys or some of them worked on before?  Usually hints on how well they van program a game.

I would not call DF vaporware but Im always careful...

Originally posted by Gameloading

Originally posted by Demz2

Originally posted by Ephimero

Originally posted by gorecki

Originally posted by Ozmodan

Sorry, I can't help if some of you go off the deep end.  Adventurine has been announcing things then delaying them forever.  NO one has actually played this game beyond the developers.  NO one has really seen it.  Has not been seen at any shows, has not been reviewed by any journalists. 

Point proven.  I have been following this game for years,  If you are not a bit skeptical yourself you are a bit naive to say the least.

Until we actually get reports of people actually playing this game it is the same old Adventurine throwing hype and fluff at those of you begging for it.

So yes, despite some claims to the contrary, it is still vaporware.

Fool.  They are already inviting people.  Non-company people.  That means it is no longer vaporware.

We will not get "reports" of people playing, because of the NDA.  Until it is lifted, or until you yourself get into the beta, you will know not one thing about how the game plays.  Aventurine is not really large enough to have a show presence, and we will likely see player reviews when the NDA drops sooner than journalist reviews, as this is not a big-name title.

You're like a guy standing on the ground during an air-show, fingers in his ears screaming "LALALALALA NO WAY PEOPLE WILL EVER FLY LALALALALA" while planes whiz over you head.

/snicker

 

 

The announcement doenst state that people invited will be playing, read properly, hardware testing, your hardware testing, that's all this announcement is about, I can do hardware testing with cpu-z.

 

Hahahaha this is pure classic statement.  This is number 1 signature quote for sure.

the announcement clearly says "We are not playtesting"
 

yea can still log intot he servers

in a limited area to test the client

Originally posted by Gameloading 

the announcement clearly says "We are not playtesting"

Wow.

Hardware testing:  testing the GAME to see how it runs on various systems.  PLAYING THE GAME to measure performance and find performance flaws.  Involves people using the GAME CLIENT.  Focused soley on performance and stability, nobody is going to be examining or reporting on gameplay issues.

Playtesting:  testing the GAME to see how it plays.  PLAYING THE GAME to identify and squash bugs.  Involves people using the GAME CLIENT.  Focused largely on gameplay issues, balance, and bugs, but also examining hardware issues as needed.

So, to make it REALLY SIMPLE:  Both involve people using the client, connecting to a server, and playing the game.  In order to test hardware, people must use the REAL CLIENT and PLAY THE FREAKING GAME.  The hardware testing simply puts blinders on to address any big issues that come about with the engine itself.  It is the earliest form of a beta, because it addresses major issues that might be found which could significantly impede the playtesting phase.  Playtesting opens the game up to more things (and more people) to identify more subtle issues (bugs, glitches, etc).  They are just different phases of beta.

I can't believe this is such a hard concept.  Either there is a sudden decline of intelligence at work here this week, or DF trolls are really scraping the bottom of the barrel to find something to hang on to still.

Originally posted by gorecki

Originally posted by Gameloading 

the announcement clearly says "We are not playtesting"

Wow.

Hardware testing:  testing the GAME to see how it runs on various systems.  PLAYING THE GAME to measure performance and find performance flaws.  Involves people using the GAME CLIENT.  Focused soley on performance and stability, nobody is going to be examining or reporting on gameplay issues.

Playtesting:  testing the GAME to see how it plays.  PLAYING THE GAME to identify and squash bugs.  Involves people using the GAME CLIENT.  Focused largely on gameplay issues, balance, and bugs, but also examining hardware issues as needed.

So, to make it REALLY SIMPLE:  Both involve people using the client, connecting to a server, and playing the game.  In order to test hardware, people must use the REAL CLIENT and PLAY THE FREAKING GAME.  The hardware testing simply puts blinders on to address any big issues that come about with the engine itself.  It is the earliest form of a beta, because it addresses major issues that might be found which could significantly impede the playtesting phase.  Playtesting opens the game up to more things (and more people) to identify more subtle issues (bugs, glitches, etc).  They are just different phases of beta.

I can't believe this is such a hard concept.  Either there is a sudden decline of intelligence at work here this week, or DF trolls are really scraping the bottom of the barrel to find something to hang on to still.

Testing hardware does NOT require the gameclient. All it requires (in theory) is a benchmark program, nothing more. What people are saying here is that this is NO guarentee whatsoever that there will actually be any playable content AT ALL.
 

We are still talking about a company of barely 2 hands full staff, 7 years of development and no history whatsoever.

Originally posted by originalegg

if it wasn't already painfully obvious before this announcement....see sig....

 

because they're again announcing a "soon to be" segment of beta testing, while stating that they're going to be "admitting" people based upon hardware, but NOT to playtest...

doesn't that sound like some type of early alpha testing or something?  isn't the point of beta testing TO playtest the game to try out different sections and work out the bugs... at least in closed beta... open beta is more of a stress test and finding bugs when large amounts of people are playing....

like i've said before... gods-n-heroes was almost on the shelves before it became vaporware.

i hope the game comes out and is great.  but i'm not idiotic enough to be a worshipper of something that's made promises for the past decade and never lived up to one of them... that's like an off-brand version of smedley.

but whatever...  people have to mindlessly worship something i suppose. 

but back to the original thought -- this is not an announcement of beta... testing hardware configurations while NOT playtesting is NOT beta testing.

but hey, they have 3 days before october... maybe they will get thru this alpha-esque testing in time to hit closed beta in october... then open beta... then go thru publishing and release and get the game to the stores by dec 31st and actually release in 2008.

for the fanbois that are still clinging to "they didn't say 2008"... i guess you didn't watch the trailer... in english, at the end of the trailer, it states "coming in 2008".

but if they don't make it... don't fear fanboiz... there's always 2018.

Originally posted by gorecki

Originally posted by Gameloading 

the announcement clearly says "We are not playtesting"

Wow.

Hardware testing:  testing the GAME to see how it runs on various systems.  PLAYING THE GAME to measure performance and find performance flaws.  Involves people using the GAME CLIENT.  Focused soley on performance and stability, nobody is going to be examining or reporting on gameplay issues.

Playtesting:  testing the GAME to see how it plays.  PLAYING THE GAME to identify and squash bugs.  Involves people using the GAME CLIENT.  Focused largely on gameplay issues, balance, and bugs, but also examining hardware issues as needed.

So, to make it REALLY SIMPLE:  Both involve people using the client, connecting to a server, and playing the game.  In order to test hardware, people must use the REAL CLIENT and PLAY THE FREAKING GAME.  The hardware testing simply puts blinders on to address any big issues that come about with the engine itself.  It is the earliest form of a beta, because it addresses major issues that might be found which could significantly impede the playtesting phase.  Playtesting opens the game up to more things (and more people) to identify more subtle issues (bugs, glitches, etc).  They are just different phases of beta.

I can't believe this is such a hard concept.  Either there is a sudden decline of intelligence at work here this week, or DF trolls are really scraping the bottom of the barrel to find something to hang on to still.

let me think for a moment.

09-26-2008, 03:13 PM
Tasos
Darkfall Developer



Hardware Configuration Test

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Hello, this is a small update on our current activities:

Since September the 22nd we've been running tests to make sure that Darkfall runs properly on a variety of hardware configurations. Any external people are being selected strictly by their hardware configuration and are selected and let in gradually. Absolutely no other criteria come into play other than hardware. Also, we are not playtesting. If you are selected for this hardware test you will be notified by email to the address associated with your Darkfall community forum account.

Once we've concluded this phase, we will gradually allow more people in based on various other criteria associated with the testing needs. We may not announce the start of every phase. All the testing up to the open beta phase is protected by NDA.

About the Athens Digital Week event, there will be a Darkfall presentation and possibly announcements based on our progress by then. Any information on the ADW site concerning Darfall is currently inaccurate and a placeholder. We're not directly responsible for this content but we've asked for the information to be corrected.

We'll keep you updated on any significant developments.

Thanks for reading.
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Last edited by Tasos; 09-26-2008 at 03:47 PM.
 

why is it that every place not controlled by this gaming company, which makes announcements in regards to this gaming company.... this gaming company comes out and says, "oh what they're saying isn't accurate."

so every site that has "official" information from the gaming company gets it wrong?

and this latest one is intentionally wrong and just a placeholder?

wtf????

i'd love for a great game to come out; but with the crappy graphics on war and the tons of bugs it was released with... i now have doubts there will ever be another "good" mmo released.

Originally posted by Ozmodan

Funny how all this silly hype about a game NO one has seen gets people so upset.

When Adventuring produces the goods and we have some actual reviewers looking at it, you can then get excited about the game.  Until then I suggest you don't be so naive and jump on a bandwagon that may or may not exist.

quoted for truth and intelligence.

I think it is absolutely hilarious at how once Tasos says something that supports the community and the game... everyone who disbelieves says:

"WHOA WHOA whoa. Look at this sentence. See this word? Wow look at that word. That word means that everyone who likes DF is dumb and to think it is coming makes them incapable of doing anything than worshipping nothing......... WAIT OMG! Look here! This OBVIOUSLY means that DF is going to SUCK and that this test is a FAKE because of this one word and sentence. Learn to get some brains noobs and read in between the lines between the lines between those lines and the other lines and then the other lines. OMG AND LOOK AT THIS!!!!!: 3000000 years ago there was a book found called "Fall of darkness" ... This obviously relates to the game and predicted its epic failure and descending into the pits of interwebs"

Seriously? You guys really do make me laugh sometimes because once you get proven