WAR (Warhammer Online)

Originally posted by Malvolentia

Well, I haven't tried WAR yet, but is comparing a game that's been polished over 4 years fair to a game that was released a few weeks ago?

Is the OP assuming WAR will never try and improve the game?

War is a game that has been made years after wow, and using newer technology, and has had time to learn from the explosion in the mmo market from wow, so its only right to expect war to be a polished game.  This argument of wow has had 4 years to polish is absolutley BS.  War has come into the market with hype like no other game and claming to be a next gen mmo, so its polish should be at what wows levels is  at this stage.  Jesus wow was first developed over 7 years ago, and its game mechanics and deisgn  virtually destroy anything past and present and anyhtign claiming to be next gen, if anythign wow is more next gen than the so called next gen mmo's.

Originally posted by Malvolentia

Well, I haven't tried WAR yet, but is comparing a game that's been polished over 4 years fair to a game that was released a few weeks ago?

Is the OP assuming WAR will never try and improve the game?

Nope, he isn't. Next!

I mostly agree with the OP, though I dont play WOW for many reasons, I share the critique in WAR. It feels... artificial. Like made-up, it feels more like a game than a world with character, more like a stage. Its not a bad game, but I cant imagine myself more than one level-through run and then quit.

---

Originally posted by Kyleran

---

Originally posted by EliteMarine

WOW is making another ex pac making all the tier 6 and brutal glad gear useless again so you can grind and do it all over again and again and the cycle will continue until the game finnaly dies off prolly in another 3 years or so.

---

ER, when WAR is ready for an xpac, do you really think it won't contain new items that basically make all of your old gear obsolete? If so, then you never played DAOC.

---

Coming from EQ, from my point of view,

WoW / WAR are identical...

super mega easy games, where everything is given to you.

Raiding a joke.(dont know about WAR raid yet, havn't experienced it)

PvE in general a joke.

Pvp a joke - not so much in WAR, but the pvp/rvr has got nothing on DAoC.

This may change when the majority of the population is in T4 - actually i expect it will.

MMORPGs nowadays are designed so 5yr olds can play em. Give me a game I have to learn, and classes I have to learn, and not be mastered at lvl 10, because there isn't really all that much to learn about classes now.

my 2c.

Originally posted by crunchyblack

the OP is clearly closed minded... "eeewww change" is what i can sum up his thoughs about warhammer.

Let him go back to wow, he will be right back on these forums looking for a new game to hate in a month when he bores of doing the same old sht for another 10 level.

Honestly the less kids like this in warhammer the better the community will be.

i just love how everyones expecting a new game to be as polished as a game 4years old

i also love the extreme nitpicking, these kids really like to overlook the big picture and turn things a normal person wouldnt even notice into huge game breaking problems

please....go back to wow

Sorry but thats a really lame response to a well written and thought out post. OK so his opinions threaten your way of life in WAR in some way......well just because he has an opinion of WAR that doesnt agree with yours it doesnt mean he is close minded. The fact that you used the sad old "go back to WoW" warcry sums you up very well indeed. Geez its sooooooo boring seeing that get said all the bloody time. Try having an original thought sometime. YOU are one of those "kiddies" that you are referring to.

Originally posted by neonwire
 

Sorry but thats a really lame response to a well written and thought out post.

You know what, I found nothing original or special about this post at all that is worth spawning page after page after PAGE of responces.

He just made one huge wall of text over the most basic subject we've been discussing over all those years now, WoW is the most polished game.

We know that, thank you, and nobody else ever will probably make a more polished MMORPG than WoW. But like I said, WE KNOW THAT! It's starting to get annoying to hear it all the time now

Originally posted by DuraheLL 

We know that, thank you, and nobody else ever will probably make a more polished MMORPG than WoW. But like I said, WE KNOW THAT! It's starting to get annoying to hear it all the time now

Why are you getting so upset?  No one is making a personal insult; just stating an opinion (see I did that just for you : ) ).  You'd think that folks could learn to ignore something like this.

To the OP, WoW is a very refined game and I can certainly appreciate the work Blizzard has done.  Having said that I think EA/Mythic is on the right track here.  While I haven't decided whether I'll continue my subscription, WAR isn't a bad game.   Given time I'm confident EA/Mythic will continue to build on the framework (yeah, I'll agree there's not much to the game atm) and improve the game.

Originally posted by invsblmn

Originally posted by neonwire

I agree with your description of WAR as it does indeed seem to throw endless rewards in the players direction without any real effort being required to obtain them. It is very clearly an amusement park and isnt really intended to be a world you can explore as such.

Despite all of that though I dont think WoW is any better at all. WoW is also an amusement park but its just a bit more open. It certainly never created the illusion of a world for me.......I always felt that I was running through a grindy themepark. In fact WAR does a MUCH better job of creating the illusion of a world. There is so much activity going on that the world really feels alive. WoW doesnt even come close in this respect. The good thing about WAR is that it doesnt try to be a world and because of this I think it is better than WoW, which tries to be something which it clearly isnt.

The combat in WAR feels fine to me. Its basicly the same as WoW so I cant really see how you can think WoW is more satisfying. You're still just spamming the same buttons in a theraputic rythm so whats the difference? I also thought the animations in WAR are nicer to look at. Add to that the fact that WAR's graphics and character models are very clearly miles ahead of WOW's which are now looking rather dated. Some of those landscapes actually look quite spectacular. The giant stomping around in the greenskin beginning area is just great!

The difficulty or challenge you refer to in WoW is also just an illusion.......unless you count  large amounts of tedium and mind numbing boredom as a challenge which I suppose it is in a way. Its just not the kind of challenge I am particularly interested in paying money for. I would rather have fun personally. I dont know whether WAR will hold my attention for many months but I do at least get the feeling that my efforts mean something in the game which is a feeling I certainly never got from playing WoW. To be honest though these themepark games dont usually hold my attention for anything more than a couple of months anyway. However WAR has focused more on PvP which I think is the point of these types of games anyway.

I would not compare the effort of accomplishing something in WAR with anything that can be achieved in real life. Sorry but achieving things in real life requires a lot more effort and is far more rewarding than spending huge amounts of time grinding things in WoW. I find that comparison rather silly actually.

Otherwise though your post was a pretty good one.

 

Yep. Excellent points. 

I think it's worth asking this question: how many MMO gamers are just pathologically addicted to video games? The MMORPG genre has possibly more addicts than any other genre. They are looking for a substitute for real life and that's never going to happen. It's all an illusion. The perfect sandbox, Conan-style mounted combat, 1000v1000 epic siege, level-less, no-grind MMO will never be made.

200 years ago no-one would have dreamed of being able to fly in the skies. There were lots of people just like you who said the words "It will never happen". Now we see giant metal birds in the sky all the time.

50 years ago no-one would have ever dreamed of playing the games we have now over a thing called the internet. There were lots of people just like you who said the words "It will never happen". Now we all play games over the internet.

20 years ago I used to play games on my Spectrum 48k. The games came on cassettes and I had to load them on a t