WAR (Warhammer Online)

Originally posted by sabutai22

So a few thing Mythic has lied about;

 

1. RvR / PvP is ruled by Level (over) Gear (over) skill. No matter how good a player(s) is/are they CAN NOT compete against a group that out level(s) them by any means.Obviously.. do you think it would be fair to be able to beat people 3-4 levels higher than you?  Try thinking for a minute about that.

So for Mythic having said 60% Skill and 40% Gear is incorrect and false, its more like 80% Level, 19% Gear and 1% Skill (And Skill is debatable since the game will auto turn you if someone tried to stay out of your LoS, not much skill in that!)Again, when we're all rank 40, let's see what happens.  I'm tired of casuals pissing and moaning about not being able to compete with hardcores at the outset.  Isn't it reasonable that if someone is playing 12 hours a day, rather than 2 hours a day.. they'll be higher in rank, have better gear, and be more experienced in RvR?

Gear also plays a huge role, Anyone that goes into Tier 2 Scenarios with their T1 Gear will not have enough DPS compared to those that are in Tier 2 (with the _LEVEL_ requirement) and their Tier 2 Weapons/Armor.  So. you go from saying gear has little to no role in determining who wins and loses.. to saying it has a HUGE role.  Think before typing.  Duh, if you are rank 11 with rank 11 gear and you are fighting rank 21's with rank 21 gear, what exactly do you think will happen?  There is no game out there that will let level 1's compete with max levels.

2. Empty Tier 3 Scenarios taking hours to que up, making anyone thats level 22 having to run PQ and Quests, this is a _HUGE_ boaring grind;  I've run quests from 22 to 24(current rank) and have noticed little grind.  PQ's actually give you a very good drop rate compared to regular mobs, you gain influence and earn rewards, which in turn, increased you guild rating.  Sure, there is a grind.  But, without any type of timesink, you're going to be sitting there at max level, with nothing to do.  People need to understand.. that in the age of MMO's, you actually have to do some work to get ahead.  Imagine that.

PQ - Kills X number of mobs for X number of times (Not Fun)

Quests - Goto location Z find item Y and then Kill X Number of mobs for X number of times (Not Fun)  Give Mythic some alternate suggestions.  I'm also tired of this as well.  Everyone complaining about the same old types of quests.  If you're so smart, give us your idea about how you're going to revolutionize this element of gameplay.  it's like.. OMG, my character has two arms and two legs!  That is so BORING, do something different!!

RvR (keep seige) - Vastly depends on server and sides, however this once again is ruled mainly by _ZERG_ size followed by number of higher _LEVEL_ players in said _ZERG_ and finally by the active guilds that cordinate said keep seiges.  WRONG.  I've been there and done this... I've helped 2-3 other people defend keeps against 12+ players.  Actually, I've noticed the complete opposite.  Our server is full on destruction.. but I rarely see large warbands running about.  I've had one battle of 30v30 and that's pretty much it.  Population caps in my opinion.. need to be raised a lot.  

 

I truely hope Mythic plans something or has something in store for everyone, as it stands now post _LEVEL_ 22 is boaring, slow and very repetative and starting an ALT is even worse since you have to do the entire _SAME_ path all over again! Its bad enough the _LEVEL_ curve is huge and slow!  There are three different pairings.  I've stuck to the empire pairing as a Warrior Priest about 90% of the time.  If I make another character and it's a different race, I will get a whole new set of quests and areas to explore through.  If I pick the same race.. then I can still go to another area.  Tell me exactly.. what other games give you a completely dynamic leveling process?  Oh wait, in WAR you can PvP to 40.  I guess not even that is enough for you.

 

This my friends.. is someone just bitching and moaning about not being giving everything on a silver platter.  In life, you have to work for everything that you get... why would a company that is interested in making money.. give you everything to start?  Some people need to sit back and think..

 

Originally posted by Getalife

Originally posted by Clada

Originally posted by Getalife

I agree with ISELIN. A game which is not even one month old and people already complaining about slow leveling. What's the rush anways? thats why i despise so called hardcore gamers. they ruin it for everyone else who doesnt spend 24 hours in front of PC.

 

Just like how I could not tell the combat was slow until in the first month right?

Slow leveling might not be fun for everyone.

When do you not agree with someone that says something postive about WAR?  When it's neagtive your all over them like they are speading the plague.

There is difference between being negative and lying. You people just try your level best but honestly you all lack facts. Just like your whining about *NO AOC STYLE COMBAT IN WAR*. Which is explained to you why it's so absurd to even consider something like that.

 

I have no problem with negative opinion, but i have big problem with stupidity.

And who are you to say who is stupid???

Where did I say "NO AOC STYLE COMBAT IN WAR" where? I would love to see it!
Maybe your to stupid to read that what I said was "The combat is weak and slow paced"

Do you know what a fact is?

I can surely think that Warhammer combat is slow, it does not need to be a fact! where is your fact that the not slow?  It's called a personal opinion not a fact.

I hope people actually look at your post history and see what you do on the AOC forums and here.  You say honesty, where are those AOC screens you said you were going to post last week? and why are you quoting things I never said?

Grow up and understand that not everyone is going to agree with what you say, and thats fine. 

Originally posted by Clada

Originally posted by Getalife

Originally posted by Clada

Originally posted by Getalife

I agree with ISELIN. A game which is not even one month old and people already complaining about slow leveling. What's the rush anways? thats why i despise so called hardcore gamers. they ruin it for everyone else who doesnt spend 24 hours in front of PC.

 

Just like how I could not tell the combat was slow until in the first month right?

Slow leveling might not be fun for everyone.

When do you not agree with someone that says something postive about WAR?  When it's neagtive your all over them like they are speading the plague.

There is difference between being negative and lying. You people just try your level best but honestly you all lack facts. Just like your whining about *NO AOC STYLE COMBAT IN WAR*. Which is explained to you why it's so absurd to even consider something like that.

 

I have no problem with negative opinion, but i have big problem with stupidity.

And who are you to say who is stupid???

Where did I say "NO AOC STYLE COMBAT IN WAR" where? I would love to see it!
Maybe your to stupid to read that what I said was "The combat is weak and slow paced"

Do you know what a fact is?

I can surely think that Warhammer combat is slow, it does not need to be a fact! where is your fact that the not slow?  It's called a personal opinion not a fact.

I hope people actually look at your post history and see what you do on the AOC forums and here.  You say honesty, where are those AOC screens you said you were going to post last week? and why are you quoting things I never said?

Grow up and understand that not everyone is going to agree with what you say, and thats fine. 

Why don't you post your own topic before i embarrass you? not here to service you so i will post screenshots when i like. But that's not the point. Your whole rant over  combat is weak ended up in comparison to AOC. Seriously, why you like to make youself look like an idiot? so either you post the link here yourself or i will do the favor to you and make you look like another AOC fanboy who just come here to troll WAR.

Yeah i hope people look at my post history and yours to see who is the real troll here. You failed miserably last time but you just don't give up do you? so post the link or i will do it for you.

Originally posted by Clada

Originally posted by Getalife

I agree with ISELIN. A game which is not even one month old and people already complaining about slow leveling. What's the rush anways? thats why i despise so called hardcore gamers. they ruin it for everyone else who doesnt spend 24 hours in front of PC.

 

Just like how I could not tell the combat was slow until in the first month right?

Slow leveling might not be fun for everyone.

When do you not agree with someone that says something postive about WAR?  When it's neagtive your all over them like they are speading the plague.

Well, saying combat is slow is very non-specific. I hope you do not mind answering a question to get better details for feedback.

When you say slow, do you mean the animations are slow, that the auto attack is slower than most games, the cooldown between special attacks seems slow, or that it takes 5-10 sec to kill an opponent instead of 1 or 2 shotting?

Thank you for your time.

sure, if you can consider 18 levels a "grind fest"

You guys are probably leveling wrong or something then. I finished leveling my second 40 character on the 29th and none of them have over 120 hours of total playtime, and I really don't think that this can be considered a lot. I also didn't grind levels, just leveled with a mix of quests, PQs and RvR.

Really, anyone that thinks ANY western MMO is a grind fest has probably never played a korean MMO...

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Originally posted by HensenLiros
You guys are probably leveling wrong or something then. I finished leveling my second 40 character on the 29th and none of them have over 120 hours of total playtime, and I really don't think that this can be considered a lot. I also didn't grind levels, just leveled with a mix of quests, PQs and RvR.

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Wow - just wow. You need to get a life :) 2 characters to 40 by the 29th. Thats 2 in 2 weeks (+ a few days more if you had head start) and not more than 120 hours total playtime on the toon. So 120 hours gaming in a week. Thats just crazy man :)

I have one toon at almost 15 and one at 12. Thats with 2 days head start, a job, kids, chores, eating, sleeping, traveling etc. I just cant imagine spending that much time in a game in such a short period. My gaming is < 100 hours a month.