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kookcmoi  10/05/08 4:04:51 AM

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I am amazed to see such a discrepancy between the apparently very good WAR rating and the TRUE PLAYERS rather negative opinions in forums (not only mmorpg.com forum).

I understood that commercial pressure and money/advertisement is the cause of false high game rating. A web site such as mmorpg.com will never have an interest in publishing a negative review on a good "ads" customer such as WAR.

Another proof of disinformation ? I was unable to publish a rating for WAR on mmorpg.com because you have to be level 100... what bullshit, anyone, any player should be able to give a rating. That's the only way to reflect the TRUE opinion of people without manipulation and censorship.

 
checkthis500  10/05/08 4:06:52 AM

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Originally posted by kookcmoi

I am amazed to see such a discrepancy between the apparently very good WAR rating and the TRUE PLAYERS rather negative opinions in forums (not only mmorpg.com forum).

I understood that commercial pressure and money/advertisement is the cause of false high game rating. A web site such as mmorpg.com will never have an interest in publishing a negative review on a good "ads" customer such as WAR.

Another proof of disinformation ? I was unable to publish a rating for WAR on mmorpg.com because you have to be level 100... what bullshit, anyone, any player should be able to give a rating. That's the only way to reflect the TRUE opinion of people without manipulation and censorship.


 

Replace TRUE PLAYERS with VOCAL MINORITY and there you have your answer.

You should check out metacritic.  sitting at 88, with a user rating of 8.5.

Check xfire.  Sitting at number 5 steadily.

And if anyone, any player was able to give a rating, you'd have people create a thousand accounts to spam a rating at 1 or 10.  Trust me there are people that would do that.

The majority of the TRUE PLAYERS are playing the game, not spouting nonsense on the forums. :p

I dont' think you understand what "disinformation" means either.  You're basically calling user opinions of the game after playing it or hearing about it "disinformation."  So that means that every single review ever written about the game (there's like 15 at the moment) is "disinformation" according to you.

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EduardoASG  10/05/08 4:07:44 AM

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To the OP:

you mean that every website should allow people to create 'n' accounts to vent their frustation like you just did with your first post?

is this your 10th account spamming your negative view of war or the 30th one?

[ giving an example.. pretty sure you were well intentioned but there is people who will create 'n' accounts just for that. ]

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kookcmoi  10/05/08 4:10:43 AM

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All rating site are working on the same commercial model. So I do not trust "commercial medias" who all have a tendancy to biase the opinion in the direction of their interests.

And Yes I think anyone should be able to give his opinion. You do not have a better opinion than someone else because yo have posted 100000 messages on a forum...

 
checkthis500  10/05/08 4:15:25 AM

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Originally posted by kookcmoi

All rating site are working on the same commercial model. So I do not trust "commercial medias" who all have a tendancy to biase the opinion in the direction of their interests.

And Yes I think anyone should be able to give his opinion. You do not have a better opinion than someone else because yo have posted 100000 messages on a forum...

You must not listen.  If ANYONE can leave their opinion people would spam it with thousands of 1's, so then even the user rating wouldn't be accurate.
 

Also, mmorpg.com haven't even reviewed the game yet.  What you're seeing is the "User Rating."  If you check the user rating at metacritic it's 8.5.  USERS are saying the game deserves an 8.5+ not commercial websites.  (Though they're saying the same thing).

Disinformation means false information.  What about the rating is false? 

Are you saying people didn't actually rate the game 8.84?  Because if you thumb through the user comments on the ratings section they're predominantly positive.

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VirgoThree  10/05/08 4:16:32 AM

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last time i remember you only need like a rating of 10/100 to be able to rate a game. As stated earlier, forums are filled up with the vocal minority. Most people either do not know of these forums, or do not care about posting on forums.

 
kookcmoi  10/05/08 4:39:27 AM

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You do not understand or maybe you are those paid (for reacting so fast) to censor.

Don't you understand simply that anyone should be able to give his opinion? And no it will not spam forums. Have you ever had a statistic class at school to understand what is a representative list of voters ? never heard that in an election we say only the top whatever will vote otherwise it will create spam.

And i do not agree with your non factual, non measured idea of vocal minority. Best proof is that it is probably my first post in a forul since many years.

Anyhow this does not change the FACT that WAR is over rated because of COMMERCIAL reasons.

 
Raunu  10/05/08 4:45:36 AM

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Originally posted by kookcmoi

You do not understand or maybe you are those paid (for reacting so fast) to censor.

Don't you understand simply that anyone should be able to give his opinion? And no it will not spam forums. Have you ever had a statistic class at school to understand what is a representative list of voters ? never heard that in an election we say only the top whatever will vote otherwise it will create spam.

And i do not agree with your non factual, non measured idea of vocal minority. Best proof is that it is probably my first post in a forul since many years.

Anyhow this does not change the FACT that WAR is over rated because of COMMERCIAL reasons.

 

Well in the US we use an electoral college system for voting in the presidential elections. I would say thats a kin to saying only the "top whatever" are allowed to vote. Because in the end, its what the people with the electoral votes end up doing with their votes. The person with the popular vote can lose by a large margine.

 

All you in the US, I'm am NOT telling you not to vote. By all means get out there and cast your vote! It is very important. It lets the people who do have a say, know who you want in office. Usually the people with the electoral votes end up siding with the popular vote. So your votes DO count.

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Cryptor  10/05/08 4:47:50 AM

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As soon as you say "TRUE PLAYERS" in caps you come across as a total creep.  Everything else you might or might not be trying to communicate kinda dissapears.

 

I really like WAR, I guess that means that I'am not a "TRUE PLAYER", damn it.

 

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Gazenthia  10/05/08 6:21:24 AM

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Originally posted by Cryptor

As soon as you say "TRUE PLAYERS" in caps you come across as a total creep.

 

Okay, phew, I wasn't the only one thinking that. =)

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Lonesamurai1  10/05/08 8:30:30 AM

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