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drarkanex  10/08/08 1:18:04 AM

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One of my posts was deleted because of trolling.  However, my statement I made was not trolling.  There are going to be people that absolutely love the game and there are going to be people that absolutely hate the game.  I believe that's what a forum is about.  My post I made was not trolling in anyway and I point shame in the mods direction for labeling it as 'Troll' 

 

Again, there are going to be people on both sides of the board expressing their opinion and because a mod here feels like he's overstepping his boundaries and feels threatened by a post and labels it "trolling" when in fact the post wasn't anywhere near trolling. 

This is a forum, where people discuss things.  If i'm not able to "ney say", then what use are these forums?

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Antarious  10/08/08 1:31:06 AM

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Originally posted by drarkanex

One of my posts was deleted because of trolling.  However, my statement I made was not trolling.  There are going to be people that absolutely love the game and there are going to be people that absolutely hate the game.  I believe that's what a forum is about.  My post I made was not trolling in anyway and I point shame in the mods direction for labeling it as 'Troll' 

 

Again, there are going to be people on both sides of the board expressing their opinion and because a mod here feels like he's overstepping his boundaries and feels threatened by a post and labels it "trolling" when in fact the post wasn't anywhere near trolling. 

This is a forum, where people discuss things.  If i'm not able to "ney say", then what use are these forums?


 

Hey that's ok..

I had a post deleted because I said I resubscribed to AoC.

The reason was I was thread hi-jacking.

I wrote to them of course with no response.

You speak of "ney say" well.. how exactly is saying you resubscribed to a game in a thread about THAT GAME getting a new game director... Thread Hi Jacking.

I do not question moderation.. as its not allowed.

 

What I do question is how the above can be considered thread hi jacking.  As I would like to see an explination on how discussing resubscribing to a game with a new director is not on topic... (not the actual moderation act).  However, obviously one ties to the other.. but one cannot be expected to "not hi jack a thread" when it would seem logical to discuss returning to a game that has a new game director.

Thus the confusion.

*note*

I'd also like to think that the reasoning wasn't due to my signature.. because I'm not going to modify it for every thread.

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Rosenthorn  10/08/08 1:36:17 AM

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Sorry, But I have to correct you on this... On Bloodspire there are quite a few brand new players coming through on their first toon...I know this cause they tell me...also its quite obvious when they start asking directions lol.

 

 
finnmacool1  10/08/08 1:43:47 AM

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Originally posted by Stradden
Originally posted by drarkanex

It was meant in the most possible of cynicism.  But honestly, Funcom should just shut their doors and admit they messed up.  I and quite a few of the AoC launch people are saddened and griefed by Funcom's demise.  AoC could have been something new and revolutionary, but in turn we get the usual "It's your fault for buying it" routine.  Funcom deserves every cynical response they can get and i'm not stopping until they fess up that they messed up royally.  I want an apology, a formal apology.  Not some washed up, gleaned over response from Erling.  I want the faces we know from Funcom to formally apologize to EVERYONE for their mistakes.   But until then, they will get nothing.

Well, Gaute resigned, Erling HAS apologized and he's the voice of the company... I'm not sure what else you want. You want to be angry, that's cool. You have every right to be, but that just seems like an odd request.

 

Perhaps you could provide a link to this apology. The only thing ive seen from Erling is PC double speak about how he "understands" how or why the base feels a certain way. Nothing close to an apology or even an acknowledgment they lied, misrepresented, or in any way shape or form did anything wrong.
 

 
silmaril  10/08/08 3:13:10 AM

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Some interesting stuff in the interview, but hopefully some more new stuff will come in the next part. What he said in this interview was more or less known for anyone following the game. I'd love to get some info about what new content they have in mind for the endgame (third wing of T2 raiding, T3 raiding, PvP stuff, etc) in the next one.

 
craynlon  10/08/08 3:40:13 AM

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Originally posted by silmaril

Some interesting stuff in the interview, but hopefully some more new stuff will come in the next part. What he said in this interview was more or less known for anyone following the game. I'd love to get some info about what new content they have in mind for the endgame (third wing of T2 raiding, T3 raiding, PvP stuff, etc) in the next one.


 

the problem with this is imho that he probably isnt in a position to say
"hey lets hire another 20 devs" or "hey lets spend $100k on outsourcing" to really improve the game fast.

i think what he can do is find little tweaks that are easy to implement and bring new live into the game (like i.e. a ladder and special prices for minigames) but he cant miraclously double the content overnight or have the code that messed up loot, gems and raiding streamlined in a few weeks.

seeing a game like ddo do such huge progress with a small subscription base i hope (in contrast to many funcom haters) that fc has the stamina to survive and stabilce growing aoc slowly into the game many people fell in love with but were broken hearded.

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silmaril  10/08/08 4:23:34 AM

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Originally posted by craynlon

the problem with this is imho that he probably isnt in a position to say
"hey lets hire another 20 devs" or "hey lets spend $100k on outsourcing" to really improve the game fast.

i think what he can do is find little tweaks that are easy to implement and bring new live into the game (like i.e. a ladder and special prices for minigames) but he cant miraclously double the content overnight or have the code that messed up loot, gems and raiding streamlined in a few weeks.



Yea, I know they have their focus elsewhere at the moment, but new content is what people need in the long run. So I still would like the interviewer to ask what Craig's (and the team's) thoughts are for new endgame content.

Also remember that FC is a rather large company. As far as I know they got at four MMO teams at the moment: AO, AoC, TSW and an unannounced game. With AoC of course having the most devs at the moment, they are in a position where they can pull devs from the teams of the two games they are developing. They also got a team for the new Dreamfall game, and if needed they can pull people away from that as well if necessary.
 


Originally posted by craynlon
seeing a game like ddo do such huge progress with a small subscription base i hope (in contrast to many funcom haters) that fc has the stamina to survive and stabilce growing aoc slowly into the game many people fell in love with but were broken hearded.


It's very likely that FC will continue to develop AoC. They are in a healthy economical situation (just take a look at their Q2 numbers), and AO is providing a steady income even if we do not know if AoC is doing that at the moment. My guess is that even with all the heat AoC has received, it still got more players than AO ever had and will provide FC with income for many years. So yea, they will develop AoC, and we can just hope that they will develop it into a very good game (that remains to be seen though:)

 
Frobner  10/08/08 6:33:55 AM

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Well - lets put it this way.  Im now in a WAR guild that left AOC (about 50 ppl) cause the game was not what they were lookig for (the game they had in mind playing).  And I know of alot more big guilds that have large numbers of players that gave up on AOC. 

That does not make WAR a perfect game.  But it is more of a game that players are looking for.  And the most important part.  It is WORKING.  Mythic made sure that the important factors of the game were working.  Basic MMO features like grouping (witch was broken in CB 90% of the time in AOC) RVR and scenarios.  Items are tested and have a value (but not all you will need) and the class abilities are tested and resonably balanced (ofc not perfect). 

All these  features of AOC were broken at launch.  AOC Players have been paying for a game now that has been fixing these BASIC features of a MMO.  Thats not acceptable.  And since they can not actully drasticly change the things that NEED drastic changes (only minor tweaks like new GD said) there is simply no way this game can ever be anything major in terms of MMO.  

Lets not forget that at this point in time - while the whole banking system is struggling - games like AOC that obviously are struggling will not have ANY guranty to even be online in 6-12 months time.  This is just a fact and I hope players will understand this and pick their MMO game based on this.  MMOs are after all a long term journey.

 
actionfitz  10/08/08 6:50:26 AM

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NOBODY Expects the Spanish Inquisition!!

"MMORPG.com:

There are those who say that this is all too little, too late for Age of Conan. Can you speak to that?
Craig Morrison:

There will always be the merchants of doom!..."

 

erm, how about you answer the bloody question you were asked rather than wax lyrical about your dream MMO. Personally I feel insulted that you lay at my feet, the responsibility for this game not measuring up to its promise, with my unfeasibly high expections.

Dont know about the rest of you... but I expected it to do exactly what it said on the box. Was that too much t