WAR (Warhammer Online)

Now I always have had a great skeptic against companies who decide not to make official forums. Sure, there are a few recomended forums, but essentially they are in the hand of independed people.  Customers posting on these independent forums just dont have any equal standing to the forum owners/mods. Now if mods in an official forum start to ban people and lockup threads mindlessly, customers would quit the game at some point, so there is always a certain balance of interests between posting customers and mods.

Now I have noticed all of those recommended forums where Mythic devs appear are basically for fanbois and every critic comment is locked. Usually I post ony here, but I heard enough from guild mates who tried to discuss or comment on negative things, and word has it most of those unofficial forums where Mythic mods go to are highly censored. Any critique gets locked and bans are used fast and often.

Personally I always felt the freedom of speech was one of the most important parts of a free society, as long as not any person is attacked.

For me its one big negative for WAR, if there is no place for paying customers to say their opinon, sure to be heard/read by Devs - at least now and then - I feel not really respected as customer. It just gives me a very ill feeling to have to rely on forums in the hand of other private persons who can treat me like ever they wish. And usually those forums are run by rabid fanbois of the worst sort.

Originally posted by Yunbei

Personally I always felt the freedom of speech was one of the most important parts of a free society, as long as not any person is attacked.

And this is fine, however as you're aware many forum ludites take this to nth degree, and way over the top.

The 'www.warhammeralliance.com' forum is pretty tight with it's modding but not in a bad way.

If some idiot just post a rant or some b*****x it gets locked. If they actually take the time create a meaningful post with thoughts/solutions etc. they stay.

After all, we know how bad the oficial WoW forums are... 

You can leave ANY type of feedback that you want ingame with WAR. If you go to the help menu theres a Feedback option where you can leave feedback about the game. Mythic does read all of thos just as they did in DaOC. So if you truelly want to tell Mythic how you feel or give them suggestions then you can INGAME, no forum  required.

It's all in the marketing game.

Announce the 500 K created accounts on the first day (handy covering the open Beta free distrubuted keys) and ...  Just as the game slips on amazon.com, announce the 750 K created accounts.

Only support "3rd party" "objective" forums (while being handled by the most rabid fanboys since 2006).

Cut the general chat system so players don't complain in game.

Have a nice PR chat with the major internet reviewers and have EA sit behind you doens't hurt either. IGN giving a 9 is a knee fall to the desperate industry wanting to have a broadened game market for the PC.

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All signs of damage control. Most would forget one slight important thing though: it's an MMORPG and how is gaming the thing after a few weeks (even for the hardened fanboys).

Even from the most rabid fanboys I only get one word : "fun". Short term Fun isn't enough to keep this baby on the susccesful side of the subscription market - even WITH all the elements above. How about MMO RPG.

In the end people will have to PAY to play this MMO, like all the others. And freedom of speech is always better than try to manipulate.

Originally posted by Yunbei

Personally I always felt the freedom of speech was one of the most important parts of a free society, as long as not any person is attacked.

 

You are so wrong it's not even funny. You are suggesting that you have a God given right to say what you like in a discussion forum that is;

Owned and opperated by either a company, a group, a person or a fanclub. They can impose any rules they like. They do not have to read or tolerate your consructive whining, drivvel or nonesense. If they only want fan posts and praise, it is their perogative. If they insist [typo] that every post closes with the sentence, fluffy kittens make people happy, they can, and delete any post that does not follow that rule.

Originally posted by nikoliath

 

You are so wrong it's not even funny. You are suggesting that you have a God given right to say what you like in a discussion forum that is;

Owned and opperated by either a company, a group, a person or a fanclub. They can impose any rules they like. They do not have to read or tolerate your consructive whining, drivvel or nonesense. If they only want fan posts and praise, it is their perogative. If they insist [typo] that every post closes with the sentence, fluffy kittens make people happy, they can, and delete any post that does not follow that rule.

 

Yep, but rules imposed by an obscure "objective" group which in reality isn't independant at all and has its own "propaganda and agenda" settings for the full 2 years now is misleading.
 

That was the message the OP wanted to pass.

The agenda setting of warhammaralliance is defending the game AND its developpers at  a cost. I am not saying at all costs. But it comes in handy anyway.

The method of Mythic used with this kind of "fog" is far more rejectable than FunCom did with its own police guarded forums. At least there you KNEW they were handling the threads. At warhammeralliance it is Marc and Paul handling out the messages themselves (or their clones) and the simple user hasn't got a clue.

Originally posted by bodypass

Originally posted by nikoliath

 

You are so wrong it's not even funny. You are suggesting that you have a God given right to say what you like in a discussion forum that is;

Owned and opperated by either a company, a group, a person or a fanclub. They can impose any rules they like. They do not have to read or tolerate your consructive whining, drivvel or nonesense. If they only want fan posts and praise, it is their perogative. If they insist [typo] that every post closes with the sentence, fluffy kittens make people happy, they can, and delete any post that does not follow that rule.

 

Yep, but rules imposed by an obscure "objective" group which in reality isn't independant at all and has its own "propaganda and agenda" settings for the full 2 years now is misleading.
 

That was the message the OP wanted to pass.

The agenda setting of warhammaralliance is defending the game AND its developpers at  a cost. I am not saying at all costs. But it comes in handy anyway.

The method of Mythic used with this kind of "fog" is far more rejectable than FunCom did with its own police guarded forums. At least there you KNEW they were handling the threads. At warhammeralliance it is Marc and Paul handling out the messages themselves (or their clones) and the simple user hasn't got a clue.

 

Sorry to burst your hate filled bubble, but really so f***ing what? If they choose to work "closely" with Mythic and peddle their "propaganda" what business is it of anyone to try and cry foul?

It's dead simple, if you are not a fan and want to decry WAR, don't post on warhammeralliance, simple eh?

If it had been a government forum, sure you would have a legitimate greivance.

so uhm no one here was banned from the game or am i missing something?

Funny, when I read the box when I bought the game I dont recall there being a forum as part of my purchase price.  I just recall buying a game.  Perhaps I missed something do tell if I have.  Whining about a game not having forums is right up there with complaining that your mom didnt wash your clothes well enough.  Get a job I am sure you can find more productive ways to spend your time.  Perhaps with the money you earn you can purchase yourself a girlfriend for $25 an hour.

Originally posted by nikoliath

Originally posted by bodypass

Yep, but rules imposed by an obscure "objective" group which in reality isn't independant at all and has its ow