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Stradden  10/13/08 9:29:09 AM

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MMORPG.com Vanguard Correspondent Warren Bennett takes a look at the unique diplomacy system in SOE's Vanguard: Saga of Heroes.

Diplomacy in Vanguard is an interesting type of MMO play. It takes a concept of the physical collectible card game, games like Magic: the Gathering, and turns it in to a new way to interact with the world of Telon. Yet this isn't just a card game, your choices and how well you perform may actually effect the entire zone you are playing in.

What is Diplomacy exactly?

Read the article here.

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Mrbloodworth  10/13/08 10:14:56 AM

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Cendharia  10/13/08 11:08:07 AM

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Originally posted by Stradden

MMORPG.com Vanguard Correspondent Warren Bennett takes a look at the unique diplomacy system in SOE's Vanguard: Saga of Heroes.

Diplomacy in Vanguard is an interesting type of MMO play. It takes a concept of the physical collectible card game, games like Magic: the Gathering, and turns it in to a new way to interact with the world of Telon. Yet this isn't just a card game, your choices and how well you perform may actually effect the entire zone you are playing in.

What is Diplomacy exactly?

Read the article here.


 

Originally it was intended that all THREE spheres were important..at least thats the way Sigil meant it to be.   Alas new owners and who knows what will happen for VG's future.   All three spheres were meant to influence and pretty much overlap each other.

I am not saying that the Soe Devs (some, very few were original Sigil) are not making a good effort to put VG in a good place, I just think certain things have happened along the way since Sigil's unfortunate demise......which guarantees that Vanguard will not be the game originally intended.

And being that the original Diplo Dev is no longer there,  I understood that diplomacy and any changes or fixes it needed would be kind of on hold til someone takes it over.    There is a dev dealing with it now, from what I understand, but who knows how many other irons in the fire he has at the same time.

Aruspex did alot for the lore in Vanguard from closed beta onwards, through diplomacy...its a shame he's no longer there.

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boojiboy  10/13/08 1:14:37 PM

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I've been a diplomat from Day 1.  I'm currently working on acquiring my land deeds and am looking forward to exploring the Lamplighters District and seeing how I can exchange my Tier 5 information for gear and jewelry.  There was a lot of great content added in GU6 and I'm pumped to get into it.

Diplomacy actually ties into the other two spheres better in the high-end game.  As a diplomat, I can parley the gnomes in Gnome City within Ancient Port Warehouse.  There, I can put up buffs for the raid, trigger adventure quests, pick up for useful lore and obtaining Hoptonian Schematics which are required for the gear quests within APW.

 
chryses  10/13/08 2:10:28 PM

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Vanguard has some amazing ideas and Diplomacy with in-depth crafting are ground breaking in a lot of ways.  I always have a soft spot for VG but for me time has moved on but I would recommend it to anyone dissapointed with the latest releases and looking for a fantasy MMO.  Plenty to do and I had a many weeks of fun in it.

 
Samhael  10/13/08 3:57:10 PM

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I think Diplomacy was an interesting concept and one that tied in with the game in a cool way. For me personally, I have some sort of mental block with the card games like this and just don't get them. It's like I'm missing something fundamental. And the tutorials just don't seem to help me find whatever it is. I must be getting too old for it. :)

 
troydavid  10/13/08 5:14:04 PM

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Amazing aspect of the game that ties in interestingly very well with the other spheres, IF one pays attention to why they're doing the adventure quests or the crafting work orders.

 

T.

 
metalcore  10/14/08 3:23:57 AM

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Originally posted by boojiboy
I've been a diplomat from Day 1.  I'm currently working on acquiring my land deeds and am looking forward to exploring the Lamplighters District and seeing how I can exchange my Tier 5 information for gear and jewelry.  There was a lot of great content added in GU6 and I'm pumped to get into it.
Diplomacy actually ties into the other two spheres better in the high-end game.  As a diplomat, I can parley the gnomes in Gnome City within Ancient Port Warehouse.  There, I can put up buffs for the raid, trigger adventure quests, pick up for useful lore and obtaining Hoptonian Schematics which are required for the gear quests within APW.

I recently gained 50th level in Diplomacy and got all the Lamp lighters gear, some very cool items and look really good.

One of the best things currently about max level diplomacy is earning Ancient Platinium coins for your flying/racial mounts. There are repeatable quests which is an awesome idea.

I hope the revamp addresses the mid levels where there is very little to do but grind Civic xp.

My advice is at 40th level start grinding 45th and above npcs, they will give you drops you can use later with the Lamplighers.

 
Azmaria  10/14/08 8:16:46 AM

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I'd like to point out that diplomacy actually is needed for the other spheres.  For crafting, it's the only way to acquire certain recipes, and they get soulbound on pickup, so you can't find them on the auction house.  And boojiboy pointed out how it's useful for adventuring as well.  

I would like to see more conversations get added in for civic parleys...reading the same thing over and over from 10 different people gets real old, real fast. 

 
Mysk  10/17/08 11:50:03 PM

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Diplo was super frustrating to get into at first, but I ditched adventuring for it.  Reading the stories was pretty interesting, and some of the scenarios were interesting.

I agree that reading the same stuff over and over and ove