WAR (Warhammer Online)

Originally posted by Tyvolus

Originally posted by Azrile

Let's talk about 'my' WOW in 3 months.

1. My guild will run 10 man raids.. there will be about 10 of them to progress through (4 at launch).
2. My guild will run endgame instances and heroics (there will be about 10 of each at lvl 80 I)
3. We will do Wintergrasp at least 3 nights a week before raids, and probably mess around in there some other nights
4.  I'll be doing the battlegrounds a few times each every week for honor and tokens (5 bgs)
5.  I'll be working on my crafting and getting mats to make endgame gear and consumables from enchanting, insciption and jewelrycrafting.  I'll also probably still be working on building my harley motorcycles for my alts
6.  I'll be doing my 2man and 5man Arena games and probably getting owned
7.  I'll be doing dailies and trying to get the cooking/fishing rare items
8.  My moonkin is going to be working on achievements, especially the quest and exploration ones
9.  Occasionally I'll mess around with my Death Knight, but that will be a side thing.  I already have too many alts to play  :)

If you think that a person is only going to grind the same raid over and over again, that is because that is all that person wants to so.   Everything I listed here has viable rewards and progression and is fun.

So tell me.. oh player of a great game.

Where is the crafting in Warhammer?  Where is the PVE raid and dungeon progression..  heck. where is ANYTHING except grinding scenerios.

Is there a viable way to progress your character in Warhammer besides grinding scenarios.  Most servers are on low/low or low/med which means RvR is not a viable way to level your character.  Quests and mob exp dries up at lvl 20, so that is barely viable.   Unless you play on a handfull of full/full servers, you are stuck queueing for scenarios as your only real way of progressing your character.

There are many many ways to progress your character in WOW.. all of the things i listed above.  If a player grinds bgs or grinds raids. it's because that player doesn't want to do other things.. not because they aren't viable.

Have fun in wow bro.  I quit back 6 months or so ago and wont be going back, ever.  But feel free to visit here on the WAR forums all you want, because you wont catch me on the wow forums -- I dont visit the forums of games I dont play -- no need.   You however do, and you dont even need to tell me why -- I already know. heh. 

 

"Most servers are on low/low or low/med"  -- dude dont like, you know this isnt even true.
 

It is only like that "Low/low or low/med" to give you a REALISTIC view of what faction is on. (to Azrile)

Originally posted by Azrile

Let's talk about 'my' WOW in 3 months.

1. My guild will run 10 man raids.. there will be about 10 of them to progress through (4 at launch).
2. My guild will run endgame instances and heroics (there will be about 10 of each at lvl 80 I)
3. We will do Wintergrasp at least 3 nights a week before raids, and probably mess around in there some other nights
4.  I'll be doing the battlegrounds a few times each every week for honor and tokens (5 bgs)
5.  I'll be working on my crafting and getting mats to make endgame gear and consumables from enchanting, insciption and jewelrycrafting.  I'll also probably still be working on building my harley motorcycles for my alts
6.  I'll be doing my 2man and 5man Arena games and probably getting owned
7.  I'll be doing dailies and trying to get the cooking/fishing rare items
8.  My moonkin is going to be working on achievements, especially the quest and exploration ones
9.  Occasionally I'll mess around with my Death Knight, but that will be a side thing.  I already have too many alts to play  :)

If you think that a person is only going to grind the same raid over and over again, that is because that is all that person wants to so.   Everything I listed here has viable rewards and progression and is fun.

So tell me.. oh player of a great game.

Where is the crafting in Warhammer?  Where is the PVE raid and dungeon progression..  heck. where is ANYTHING except grinding scenerios.

Is there a viable way to progress your character in Warhammer besides grinding scenarios.  Most servers are on low/low or low/med which means RvR is not a viable way to level your character.  Quests and mob exp dries up at lvl 20, so that is barely viable.   Unless you play on a handfull of full/full servers, you are stuck queueing for scenarios as your only real way of progressing your character.

There are many many ways to progress your character in WOW.. all of the things i listed above.  If a player grinds bgs or grinds raids. it's because that player doesn't want to do other things.. not because they aren't viable.

I have a life so no to raids.

I dont find makeing imaginary items fun. And the fact you wanna fish in a video game is kinda um I dont know... well im sure someone has told you before.

Its sad that all you think of a game is grinding.  I dont pay 15 dollars a month to grind.   I... Just wannaaa have fuuuun. Ooooh I just wanna have fun.

It wasnt WoW that created this sicknes oh no kids it started a long time ago in EQ land.

I remember back in the day people starving to death cause the grind was just so important. Reports of people loosing there familys.

  Its a carrot, you know that right and each time you get near that carrot Blizzard will move it.  Its a endless game of carrot chassing. 

Seriously you sound like those guys who pat themselves on the back once they reach cap. Your not realy doing anything but reaching lvl 100 on mario and once you do its the same game in techno color. Trust me Ive beat Super Mario Bros.

Originally posted by vidiotking

Originally posted by cukimunga

Originally posted by Azrile

People can roleplay the Iraqi Information Minister all they want.. but the proof is in the pudding

Warhammer sold less boxes then Animal Crossing: City Folk last week
Primetime(now) Warhammer has over half of their servers at low/low or low/med and the number of servers at high/high has dropped considerably since the first week.

And we haven't even reached the end of the free month

 

The reason why Animal Crossings sold more than Warhammer is because AC is for the average casual Wii gamer and  30 million Wii's have been sold and alot of console games outsell MMORPG's anyways. Most of the MMORPG population is playing WoW right now Id say, and War is a PvP game so its interests an even lower amount of people.

 

I for one quit WoW for this game and Im glad and Im still playing after the free month.  So what if this game can't compete with WoW I never expected it to. We are weeding out all the douches and crybabies that complain about ever little thing.

I'm afriad "douches" does not carry the same weight as "douchebag", but good try.
 

Or how about douche applicator?

I dispute the numbers. First how would Blizzard know how many of their WoW players also tried Warhammer? Did they take an exit poll? I believe that Blizzard may have observed a dip in their numbers when Warhammer was released and attribute the dip to the release. That is different from knowing. I would also believe that WoW usage and subscriptions are climbing pre WotLK and that might erase such a dip. To then make a claim that people who left WoW for WAR are now returning to WoW is pure fabrication.

There is only one place I know of that actually makes its figures about who is playing what public and that is gamerDNA.com. I heard similar claims when AoC was a month old. When we looked at our members actual play they were not leaving AoC to return to WoW. They were taking a break from MMORPG altogether and taking up good old CoD4 and the like. AoC seemed more like methdone for MMORPG addicts.

You can see the chart and Sanya Weathers explaination here.

We have not had a look at WoW to WAR and back again because WAR is not failing. 750K subscribers is a good start. I think WoW had 500K back in the day. If someone buttonholed me for an answer on where WAR players were coming from, I'd guess it was out of the DOAC, GW and the long tail. If you are not familiar with the term...

Here is the Wikipedia explanation of the "Long Tail."

Originally posted by jblah 

So until we get some stories of people that are playing 36 WAR accounts at the same time( 36 boxes for 1 person) please dont compare the two.

Yeah, I saw that as well... Pretty sad...

Originally posted by Magter

http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/46843

Am i amazed about this? No.

Reason?

• someone's computer can't play WAR aswell as WoW.
• only 2 people said they left for WAR and 1 came back to WoW
• They want to grind
• They enjoy Raids (as do I but it still is a grind)
• They enjoy 2v2 unbalanced end-game PvP
• They played a Ret Pally and wanted to see all the talk about them being OP
• They just wanted to see how 3.0.2 is different from the old WoW and TBC

I will not look at this and think that Mythic should worry. Before Blizzard talk next time, I want details and how many people left for WAR just like they said it on AoC. BTW if they won't say it, that means it wasn't a crushing blow like AoC was.

So WAR haters rage on and WoW fanboi's bring it on for this next Epic Thread of talking smack on another person over internet from maybe a world apart.

 

 

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The only reason WoW even exists is thanks to Warhammer 40000 tabletop universe where they ripped most of their ideas. I cam care less to hear about WoW on a Warhammer board.

Six of my friends quit WoW for Warhammer. All of them chose "Other" as reason for canceling subscription instead of "I'm moving to Warhammer". None of them went back to WoW. So what's the point really?

Originally posted by Magter

http://www.tentonhammer.com/node/46843

Am i amazed about this? No.

Reason?

• someone's computer can't play WAR aswell as WoW.
• only 2 people said they left for WAR and 1 came back to WoW
• They want to grind
• They enjoy Raids (as do I but it still is a grind)
• They enjoy 2v2 unbalanced end-game PvP
• They played a Ret Pally and wanted to see all the talk about them being OP
• They just wanted to see how 3.0.2 is different from the old WoW and TBC

I will not look at this and think that Mythic should worry. Before Blizzard talk next time, I want details and how many people left for WAR just like they said it on AoC. BTW if they won't say it, that means it wasn't a crushing blow like AoC was.

So WAR haters rage on and WoW fanboi's bring it on for this next Epic Thread of talking smack on another person over internet from maybe a world apart.

 

 

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ROFLMAO!

Why are you Warhammer players that start these threads so butt hurt?  I don't get it.  Just go bury your heads in some scenarios somewhere for another