WAR (Warhammer Online)

Originally posted by slask777

Yes, I know. Another 'I quit' thread...gaahhh. Feel free to skip this one.

After having played through the first free month I see no reason to sub to this game. It's still feels unfinished, got huge balance issues, rvr is a joke, xp is concentrated in the scenarios and the pve is boring.

Unfinished - Animation issues with the npc and mobs. Sometimes the mobs will freeze their animation and float all over the place. Graphics engine make NVidia based pc-builds stutter like hell. You would think they bloody bugtest the thing against one of the main developers of graphics hardware, and system boards. There are player hotfixes for that thing, but I don't want to do that each bloody patch Mythic release.

 

Never had these graphics problems that you speak of.  I built my rig myself and it is Nvidia based as well.  No stuttering, very few crashes.. and the crashing that I've experience has eased up over the last couple weeks, it rarely happens anymore.  I think the issues are with people that have outdated systems or computer illiterate people who have trashed their computers.  There are a wide range of rigs in my guild and very few of them have issues.

Balance issues - This one is a nobrainer. Playerbase is spread to thin. Way to many servers to start with. Their dream of even getting a 10th of WoW's playerbase is proven wrong. WoW just gets stronger all the time. That's what I see on my servers atleast. The other balance issue this game got is order vs destruction. Half the order toons looks like feminine boys. I found it just as well to roll female toons so I didn't had to look at some gayboy all the freaking time (nothing against gays though, just don't like how bloody feminine they get sometimes). Their look just suck, causing alot of players to choose destruction based on looks alone. Then there are those that can look past that and roll order nonetheless. Then some 60-80% of them roll bright wizards cause of the sick amount of damage they can do. It's like all those that roll a rogue in WoW cause of the stunlock. I would like to see the looks on their faces when Mythic bring the nerf-bat to the bright wizards though  Order lacks tanks like hell, while destruction got too many of them. The balance all over the place is just out of whack.

 

Every game has balance issues.  WoW, to this day.. is still constantly fixing problems with classes.  It's been one month and I've seen several attempts to balance things out.  However, you can't just expect everything to be fixed in one day or even one week.  It will take some time.. and none of these things are gamebreaking in RvR.  RvR is what the game is about, not 1v1.

 

I think Destruction being the darker side and more badass is mostly why more people go that route.  I don't really think Dwarfs look like feminine boys.  Same goes for the Empire classes.  Elves on both sides look like girls.  I guess this is a matter of opinion.  Oh, by the way..  In Warhammer lore, the Order is grossly outnumbered.  It's is also very hard for Destruction to farm scenarios on some servers because there are too many compared to the Order that is qeueing up.  If you're going to talk about Bright Wizards.. we should talk about Witch Elves.  They can tear a Warrior Priest that has medium armor down in less than 5 seconds.  That's also while the priest is healing themself.  They pretty much blow up any class in little to no time.  They have so many dumb abilities that go through armor and hurt you when you cast, attack or run.  AND they can do over 1000 damage to you in one hit..  Or the Chaos Rift with Magus that enables Destruction to farm in scenarios that wasn't fixed by limiting the targets pulled.  I've still seen whole groups decimated by it and some ground target dots.

RvR - RvR is non-existent cause of the huge amounts of xp you get from scenarios. You do get the occasional rvr-raid but most of the time the rvr-lakes stand empty. And what's with the ridiculously huge amount of rvr-lakes anyway?

 

True, though.. in the next patch they are supposed to be adding RvR influence PQ's in the lakes.  Giving more experience for quests in general would be nice.  Making the items better for normal Chapter PQ's would help.  There are a lot of RvR lakes because.. imagine this.. it is a RvR game? 

Xp - Most people I think would like to balance scenarios, rvr and pve while leveling their toons. The way scenarios give the shortest ride to endgame, public quests and general pve is empty. Most just idle in warcamps while waiting for the queue in scenarios. This game needs to reward people equally on all fronts. I would like to see scenarios be an alternative to pve and rvr, not the main activity in this game. They don't prepare you for rvr either as none of them mirror the experience you get from taking keeps and holding them.

 

As stated above, they are going to implement some things that should help.  They are also increasing the XP and renown gained from open RvR.  The most scenarios do is help you learn to play your character in team situations.  It could be worse, they could allow warbands in scenarios.. =P

Pve - For some good pve, look at how WoW did it. WoW is a mixed bag, but it's pve is excellent. Even Anarchy Online, a bleeding old mmo got better and more fun pve than WAR have at the moment. The devs at Mythic forgot to ask themselfes one critical question while they designed the pve, 'Is this fun?'. I realize that fun is something we all got different opinions about, but when almost everyone find WAR's pve boring something is wrong. Read so many threads about the pve, experienced it myself and talked to players ingame. Some like it, but most hate it.

 

WoW makes people waste weeks.. months of their lives by giving you grind timesinks.  Grinding to exalted rep could take you month in some cases.  That is downright ridiculous.  I don't consider that FUN.  If you do, go back to WoW.  PQ's are far and away better than just about any normal rep grind that WoW has to offer.  You can grind for less than a half day and get elite rank, and you actually get a reward that's useful for your class.  If you try some of the dungeons, I think you'll be pleasantly surprised in how interesting some of the fights go. 

 

Well, those are my main concerns with the game. I tried to like it, but it didn't stick. Mythic made a damn pvp minigame out of the whole thing. Game feels too unfinished aswell. I know it only got a month or so on itself and that the 1.1 patch is just around the corner, but it's too little, too late for me. I'll check this one out again later when it had some time to mature. At the moment game is just too boring and repetitive for me. I found myself at the end thinking up reasons why I should bother logging in and play the game. It was fun at the start(all games are), but when I reached mid-t3 the game just lost it all for me. Even D&DO and LotRO lasted longer for me and I hate how they introduced mana in D&DO and how empty LotRO felt most of the time. I guess both of those games got maturity now though. Hmm, maybe I'll go back and check them out again. Been away from both of them a long time now.

 

This is one of the most polished MMO's ever to hit the shelves.  They cut some things.. yes.  But the content that is there is pretty complete.  I haven't once encountered anything in WAR where I would think of the word "unfinished".  Take a few days off and play a little casually at times.  Every single person will get burned out from time to time.  I'm not a fanboi, I'm not being paid by Mythic.  I just simply enjoy the game.  I'm sorry that you don't have any patience, maybe you should try something else.

 

Edit: Nope, won't go back to WoW. So bloody damn tired of that game now. Burnt out is the word I'm looking for. While I think WoW is a great little mmo, it's not the top of my list. Never where as it's the old mmo called Anarchy Online that holds that position on my top10 list of great mmo's I've played WoW is a good second though. WoW's just a good game to compare with as it's the top dog at the moment. Reason why I used it as comparison. About the bright wizards, maybe I exaggerated a little bit about them, but a damn lot of the players do roll them. Most my deaths in pvp on the black orc is due to a bw dot or nuke.

 

Oddly enough, my guild is about.. 40% Shadow Warriors and Warrior Priests. 

why not sit and watch the TV show OP? it is more easier. you wont worry about the issure of games. let Blizzard, Myth go to eat KFC 

comn, they are just games, dont be too serious. just like playing chess. somebody think it is great while others thinks it is a pretty boring thing. when you want play, play it. when you are tired of it, stop it, when you want to pick it up again , do it. it is just for fun. above all, we are not Myth, EA, games workshop and Blizzard........ so it seems that we can do nothing about it when they dont listen to us. maybe you can tell your thoughts to the game maker directly. if the accept it, then maybe it can do something to make the WAR better, and that is what  we all want to see as well. but just whine here, maybe can do nothing about it, but depress others, especially for the new visitor to the game-like me. look OP, i just begin to play the game... when i see your words, i feel a little disappointed in the WAR, you are influencing guys like me to enjoy it.

OH my squig, OH my greenskins......

The door is that way --------> |¯|

Good luck with your next game though.

I'm not resubbing for pretty much the same reasons as OP. After finally being able to actually play the game after an upgrade, I was enjoying my time until I hit Tier 3, where I realised that since level 1 I'd done nothing but join scenarios - TA was a slap in the face.

I bought WAR thinking I was going to be constantly fighting for Keeps and such, instead I was mostly queuing for scenarios, handing in the same quests over and over again (kill 20 players, participate in TA), each time zoning out of the scenarios looking at my map hoping that we were either trying to take Keeps or defend them, RvR rarely happens.

I've been in a few WB's to take Keeps, but out of all the keeps we took, I think only 1 or 2 times they were actually being defended (and I never seem to get close to a gold bag - only need the damn chestpiece!). Again, thanks to scenarios the RvR is dead, people are lazy and can't be bothered to move from one spot to do something fun, so they join scenarios for the quick and easy leveling.

I could list the things I'd like to see, but I really doubt they'll get rid of scenarios, as that's at the top of my list.

 I love Tier 3 and all the scenarios and beautiful locations to visit, but when I play my other characters who arnt there yet, it shows me how boring  the early content is for me now that I've seen places like Avelorn and The Temple of Isha, or High Pass with its frozen lands of ice and snow. 

Originally posted by Meridion

Can I have your stuff?

whats the point of having his stuff when they are bind on equip. other junk are worthless, even if they did come in handy it'll eventually go to the toons. makes no sense in even asking, unless of course you are being sarcastic. if you were to be playing on the magnus server and asked me a week ago when my free month was still up, i woulda sent you all 200g on my account.

Originally posted by csthao

Originally posted by Meridion

Can I have your stuff?

 

whats the point of having his stuff when they are bind on equip. other junk are worthless, even if they did come in handy it'll eventually go to the toons. makes no sense in even asking, unless of course you are being sarcastic. if you were to be playing on the magnus server and asked me a week ago when my free month was still up, i woulda sent you all 200g on my account.

Umm.... its a kind of a saying you say to people leavign the game.

No offense to the OP, but I am glad some people are leaving, no I am not trying to twist this, but there is nothing worse than playing with people that whine in the game about how this game doesnt compare to their XYZ game and how it isnt fun for them.

I am currently in T3 with my guild (despite we got several that are in T4 now), we got over 400+ active members playing both Order and Destruction. Alot of us that are hanging in there and figuring out the game alot better now and knowing what to do instead of running scenarios after scenarios and actually figuring out how to play our characters as a group. As stated, this game is a Alt-Aholic Dream!

Currently I am doing the dungeons (Altdorf) and the PQ's like Mount Gundbad (for example, excellent place however for loot drops) and having a blast with my guildmates. I am finally figuring out the ToK and what to quest for to improve my character.

If your going to pull a -- Hi I am JOE SOLO and I am going to Solo this game - you will quit before your even level 20. Its a shame though, alot of people are missing out just by doing scenarios, since they want to get to level 40 asap and try to capp their renown.

Stop and smell the roses and do the PQ's if you can (I know it tough with ppl in scenarios, but you really dont have to have to group if your just attempting to gain influence and move onto the next chapter). Yeah I know your pulling a JOE SOLO by doing this, its a damn shame and mythic should look more into improving the PQ participation, but get your influence done and get out and try the next chapter.

Unlock some of your ToKs, join a Guild that is active (preferrably a guild thats uses voice chat) in the game that schedule RvR Battlekeeps runs. If you do scenarios everytime you log on, well it was nice knowing you in WAR, cause you wont last and will burn out fast.

-this is my opinion and how I play the game-