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Astropuyo 11/13/08 4:23:42 AM
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Originally posted by Fishermage
I take a class on apologetics. Its not really convincing, and the evidence is suggestive and cherry picked. And yes the bible is very similar to other dogmas, and the view of God as well. The description of him fits the role of a divine ruler with ethics suitable for that time period.(Which we consider primitive) But to say that a God of the universe has these characteristics is barbaric. What serious books on apologetics have you read? How many have you written?
Take that commie pinko! |
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Wickersham 11/13/08 5:36:34 AM
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Originally posted by MarleVVLL People who think a God exists are called Agnostic. People who know a God exists are called whatever name they have chosen to declare themselves as worshippers of a certain God. You say, "A God is real if the God reveals Itself to be." So i'll ask you who's a God supposed to reveal Itself to be if not to it's own worshippers? Only those that are open to a God will be the ones that the God chooses to reveal Itself to. |
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Fishermage 11/13/08 10:21:39 AM
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Originally posted by Astropuyo
I take a class on apologetics. Its not really convincing, and the evidence is suggestive and cherry picked. And yes the bible is very similar to other dogmas, and the view of God as well. The description of him fits the role of a divine ruler with ethics suitable for that time period.(Which we consider primitive) But to say that a God of the universe has these characteristics is barbaric. What serious books on apologetics have you read? How many have you written?
Take that commie pinko! None, but I've read quite a few. |
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Sharajat 11/13/08 11:44:31 AM
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I suggest you start a topic called "How many books on apologetics have you read?" where you can show off your epeen. As for your religion, I'm not surprised you find it indefensible. |
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MarleVVLL 11/13/08 8:38:05 PM
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Originally posted by chrono73
No, that is not true. Jesus and allah claim to be VERY different. The gods of norse and Jesus claim to be VERY different. Indian rituals involving ancestoral worship and Jesus are two VERY different things. There is no 'universal' God. Someone is right, and many are wrong. If you were to tell that to a muslim in Iraq, they'd probably kill you for believing a heresy. A Christian wouldn't, but I say that to make a point - that type of new age philosophy is very recent, and therefore, to a person who worships a certain Deity will certainly disregard that statement because #1: it doesn't make sense and #2 it isn't true. Jesus is NOT allah and vise versa allah is NOT Jesus. Blessings, |
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| If Christianity is the following of Christ, His words and His leadership, then Christianity is the right way forward. Jesus is the One who claimed to be THE Truth and who possesses all wisdom and knowledge (Col 2:4-5) Though in Christianity many may say or do goofy things, Christ is the Faithful Witness so that is my cornerstone. When I made that decision, the world and all of its religions and philosophies suddenly became clear as it is all of Him, through Him, to Him and for Him. |
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Gorair 11/13/08 8:46:26 PM
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Originally posted by MarleVVLL
No, that is not true. Jesus and allah claim to be VERY different. The gods of norse and Jesus claim to be VERY different. Indian rituals involving ancestoral worship and Jesus are two VERY different things. There is no 'universal' God. Someone is right, and many are wrong. If you were to tell that to a muslim in Iraq, they'd probably kill you for believing a heresy. A Christian wouldn't, but I say that to make a point - that type of new age philosophy is very recent and anyone who holds belief to a certian Deity will certianly disregard that statement; because #1: it doesn't make sense and #2 it isn't true. Jesus is NOT allah and vise versa allah is NOT Jesus. Blessings,
uh no jesus and mohammed are of the same god, they say jesus was a prophet too( and respected as such) , just came before so Mohammed was the LAST prophet with the updated version. they see christians as fellow pilgrims walking the SAME road to heaven, they just are using the pre-patch version. edited for corrections. |
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MarleVVLL 11/13/08 8:54:09 PM
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I should have clarified. Christian Jesus and Muslim Jesus are two VERY different Jesus'. Blessings, |
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| If Christianity is the following of Christ, His words and His leadership, then Christianity is the right way forward. Jesus is the One who claimed to be THE Truth and who possesses all wisdom and knowledge (Col 2:4-5) Though in Christianity many may say or do goofy things, Christ is the Faithful Witness so that is my cornerstone. When I made that decision, the world and all of its religions and philosophies suddenly became clear as it is all of Him, through Him, to Him and for Him. |
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