General Discussion

Darkfall remember me about Huxley when they announce the game, was 5 years later ? LOL. Now finaly i read that Huxley (most anticipating MMOFPS 5 years later) is now in Beta, thats a good reason to compare Darkfall with Huxley. I hope Darkfall will be release soon and i will get a beta key  before i have kids that will play this game. 

At no time has anyone seen any kind of ad by RAZORWAX/AVENTURINE hiring testers. We have never heard of any kind of partnership with any kind of business that does software testing. What you will find out eventually is that these professional testers never existed.

They are now a month from release, and they have not hired or trained any game masters. They have not created a billing/account system. The website hasnt been changed in 5 - 7 years. They still don't have a paid community manager or team. Is all of this going to magically appear on the day before release?

I can program that in half a day, that's no argument, specially because it can be done and tested without any public knowledge.

Besides, what's the point in saying it's real or not when there's no decent data pointing towards one end or the other. If anything, I find it suspicious, but we will find out sooner or later.

I think the main point why people say they are skeptic is because they (df) have lied before multiple times already about beta. They have projected a release with a lot of testing undone, with nothing setup to handle such a release.

How can people not be skeptical? Listen to what they're saying? We're tried that before, and again, and again and nothing happened. i think the point being made is, use a little common sense, a little logic. You put trust in those who have earned it.  Aventurine has shown they are not worthy of such trust.

That and just look at the fatcs. There is no information anywhere about the testing, and all the other stuff Ozmodan brought up. Their timetable is not possible. That is simple logic. Then look at past history of this exact same scenario happening multiple times, the conclusion is obvious! The game is not even close to release if anything exists at all.

This argument about darkfall is the same as when someone argues with someone about religion. No matter what you point out, how all contradictions are brought to light, the ending line is " it is all about faith."

Seriously, that is no way to prove something, about anything, especially a game that has been in development for so long and shown to deceive already.

Originally posted by Vynt

I think the main point why people say they are skeptic is because they (df) have lied before multiple times already about beta. They have projected a release with a lot of testing undone, with nothing setup to handle such a release.

How can people not be skeptical? Listen to what they're saying? We're tried that before, and again, and again and nothing happened. i think the point being made is, use a little common sense, a little logic. You put trust in those who have earned it.  Aventurine has shown they are not worthy of such trust.

That and just look at the fatcs. There is no information anywhere about the testing, and all the other stuff Ozmodan brought up. Their timetable is not possible. That is simple logic. Then look at past history of this exact same scenario happening multiple times, the conclusion is obvious! The game is not even close to release if anything exists at all.

This argument about darkfall is the same as when someone argues with someone about religion. No matter what you point out, how all contradictions are brought to light, the ending line is " it is all about faith."

Seriously, that is no way to prove something, about anything, especially a game that has been in development for so long and shown to deceive already.

I agree with this. I heard about one MMO that someone was supposedly making and all they were doing was hyping it up to bring traffic to a website so they could collect ad revenue... Dark Fall reminds me of that.

Originally posted by Vynt

I think the main point why people say they are skeptic is because they (df) have lied before multiple times already about beta. They have projected a release with a lot of testing undone, with nothing setup to handle such a release.

How can people not be skeptical? Listen to what they're saying? We're tried that before, and again, and again and nothing happened. i think the point being made is, use a little common sense, a little logic. You put trust in those who have earned it.  Aventurine has shown they are not worthy of such trust.

That and just look at the fatcs. There is no information anywhere about the testing, and all the other stuff Ozmodan brought up. Their timetable is not possible. That is simple logic. Then look at past history of this exact same scenario happening multiple times, the conclusion is obvious! The game is not even close to release if anything exists at all.

This argument about darkfall is the same as when someone argues with someone about religion. No matter what you point out, how all contradictions are brought to light, the ending line is " it is all about faith."

Seriously, that is no way to prove something, about anything, especially a game that has been in development for so long and shown to deceive already.

You clearly don't realize that rabid fanbois are immune to logic. It doesn't matter if you like the game(what it is supposed to be) or not, want the game to succeed or not, if you show the slightest bit of (well earned) skepticism that any logical person would have, you are labeled a troll. 

But by and far, my favorite fan response is "The facts are... " and then they list stuff that the devs have said with absolutely no way to prove it one way or another, but apparently because the devs said it, they are "facts".

Originally posted by Abrahmm

Originally posted by Vynt

I think the main point why people say they are skeptic is because they (df) have lied before multiple times already about beta. They have projected a release with a lot of testing undone, with nothing setup to handle such a release.

How can people not be skeptical? Listen to what they're saying? We're tried that before, and again, and again and nothing happened. i think the point being made is, use a little common sense, a little logic. You put trust in those who have earned it.  Aventurine has shown they are not worthy of such trust.

That and just look at the fatcs. There is no information anywhere about the testing, and all the other stuff Ozmodan brought up. Their timetable is not possible. That is simple logic. Then look at past history of this exact same scenario happening multiple times, the conclusion is obvious! The game is not even close to release if anything exists at all.

This argument about darkfall is the same as when someone argues with someone about religion. No matter what you point out, how all contradictions are brought to light, the ending line is " it is all about faith."

Seriously, that is no way to prove something, about anything, especially a game that has been in development for so long and shown to deceive already.

 

You clearly don't realize that rabid fanbois are immune to logic. It doesn't matter if you like the game(what it is supposed to be) or not, want the game to succeed or not, if you show the slightest bit of (well earned) skepticism that any logical person would have, you are labeled a troll. 

But by and far, my favorite fan response is "The facts are... " and then they list stuff that the devs have said with absolutely no way to prove it one way or another, but apparently because the devs said it, they are "facts".

Sad, but true.

Even worse was that I was a rabid fan girl myself with the game WAR... it sounded great on paper, and people were supposedly having a great time with the game. Once I got into closed beta and got to play for a while my tune sure changed. Live and learn

I'd put my money on DarFall being a hoax. Been following it for several years and also have yet to hear from or find someone that is in this ellusive beta.

Originally posted by Cik_Asalin

I'd put my money on DarFall being a hoax. Been following it for several years and also have yet to hear from or find someone that is in this ellusive beta.

Same, and I don't think there is an actual beta in history that didn't have information leaked from it's participants or at least information from any credible source other than the developer.