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Azrile  11/14/08 10:33:16 AM

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Originally posted by teabag

There is no limited to profit$, is why we had credit crunches and financial turmoils. There is greedy peoples out there with too much cash sitting in bank's especially in america.

If a game was destined to sell 1 millions boxes at 29.99 each to make a profit$ of almost 30 millions excluded subscription is an excellent investment. But at 8 times that of a million without any changes on 29.99 is a HUGE profit$ of 239+ MILLION$!!!. In the old days, the more customers buys is a cheaper produce but alas alas!, bliztard is another fat greedy company and someone somewhere is making too much. (Remember that is without subscriptions and expansions fee)

Even now: WoW  expansions could easily become free for each loyal paying subscriptors will still netted bliztard profit$ either way. It cost $70 millions (as bliztard said) to make WoW and now it is already paid for (long long time ago)... so why are we still paying the same?.

(Make that 49.99 and hang yourself when you hear bliztard is making BILLION$ with subs and expansions)

SAY NO TO GREED$.

 

The question to ask is this.    Is it more profitable for Blizzard to sell boxes or to give away content for free.  Are the number of people who 'quit' because they have to buy a box, higher than the amount of money they get for box sales.   The answer is clearly no.    A vocal minority even complain about having to buy a box, let alone actually quit because of it.

You have to remember that Blizzard is a for-profit organization that is owned by stockholders.    Those owners of Blizzard don't want Blizzard to be 'nice' just for the sake of being nice.  I do own stock in ATVI, and I even think 'my' employees were being too generous with the free gametime they've been giving out.  Servers have been down about 1.5 days total, yet they have now given out 4 free days. ( I'm mostly kidding about this, but you see my point).

This isn't a gov't run organization or a community activity.  It is a business that is owned by stockholders.

If you really want someone to blame.   Research who was the first MMORPG that realized that people paying a monthly fee would also buy another box of content ( can't remember if UO or EQ had the first boxed expansion).

A final point.    Marketing.   There is nothing like a new box on the shelves to bring in new players.   Even if Blizzard made no money from box sales, it would still be well worth their time just to put a box 'front and center' in every game store in the world.    If you look at the sales charts from Amazon and other places, you will see that sales of the WOW battlechest have soared the last 2 months because of all the hype surrounding Wrath.   

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bojinx  11/14/08 10:49:49 AM

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I guess I can see the point in both views:

A) Blizzard is a company and companies are driven by profit.  Companies will continue to charge for their merchandise as long as people are willing to pay.

B) The reason companies make expansions is to keep their player base by adding fresh material.  Expansions are only made for economical reasons.

Either way it boils down to profits. Blizzard realizes that people are willing to pay for these expansions, while games like Lineage 2 has free expansions since NcSoft realizes that people may not be willing to pay for the expansions but are willing to continue paying a monthly fee to play the expansions. It all comes down to the best way economically to keep their player base.

I personally think a happy medium would be if blizzard had an option for a digital download at a reduced cost.

 

teabag  11/14/08 11:00:53 AM

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Do you have any clarification to profit is the excess of sales over costs?.

Say it with me: "SAY NO TO GREED$".

 
Pappy13  11/14/08 11:02:23 AM

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Originally posted by VirgoThree

What I think the naysayers are trying to stab at that some of you guys aren't getting is that Blizzard is making enough money to fund a couple AAA games within a month of monthly fees alone.


 

It's called capitalism.  If you are willing to pay for it, then it's worth it.

Why do NFL players get paid millions of dollars to play a game?

Why does Madden put out a new copy of it's game every year and charge for a full game when it's nothing but an update?

Why do the charge us to buy pet rocks?

Why?  I'll tell you why. 

Because they can.

VirgoThree  11/14/08 11:09:47 AM

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Originally posted by Pappy13
Originally posted by VirgoThree

What I think the naysayers are trying to stab at that some of you guys aren't getting is that Blizzard is making enough money to fund a couple AAA games within a month of monthly fees alone.


 

It's called capitalism.  If you are willing to pay for it, then it's worth it.

Why do NFL players get paid millions of dollars to play a game?

Why does Madden put out a new copy of it's game every year and charge for a full game when it's nothing but an update?

Why do the charge us to buy pet rocks?

Why?  I'll tell you why. 

Because they can.

um yeah I pretty much state that how it is just for profit and they just know how to take advantage of the market which coincides with "Because they can".

 
Pappy13  11/14/08 11:15:47 AM

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Originally posted by VirgoThree
Originally posted by Pappy13
Originally posted by VirgoThree

What I think the naysayers are trying to stab at that some of you guys aren't getting is that Blizzard is making enough money to fund a couple AAA games within a month of monthly fees alone.  So why is it that we the gamers have to spend our hard earned cash for new content which they can easily afford and then some?

 

It's called capitalism.  If you are willing to pay for it, then it's worth it.

Why do NFL players get paid millions of dollars to play a game?

Why does Madden put out a new copy of it's game every year and charge for a full game when it's nothing but an update?

Why do the charge us to buy pet rocks?

Why?  I'll tell you why. 

Because they can.

um yeah I pretty much state that how it is just for profit and they just know how to take advantage of the market which coincides with "Because they can".

So you didn't ask why?  I saw it right there in your post.  Here,  I'll even include it here above.  If you knew the answer then why did you ask the question?  They charge for it because they can.  Every single for profit company in the world sets what they think is a fair price and the consumer determines whether they agree or not by either purchasing whatever they are selling or not.  Based on early indicators, most consumers think Blizzard is charging a fair price.
 

teabag  11/14/08 11:18:13 AM

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"Because they can.", well that about the right word with those greedy wall street stockbrokers right now.

Thank you, let start third world war now. (Because we can)

 
Pappy13  11/14/08 11:21:12 AM

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I dont need to
"get a life".
Im a gamer, I have
LOTS of LIVES!

Originally posted by teabag

"Because they can.", well that about the right word with those greedy wall street stockbrokers right now.

Thank you, let start third world war now. (Because we can)


 

You just called about 6 billion people greedy.  Not saying your wrong, you're absolutely right.

teabag  11/14/08 11:41:02 AM

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Did someone just said 6 billion greedy peoples with excess profit$ in banks?.

Oh wait, wrong planet.

 
Pappy13  11/14/08 11:47:41 AM