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rwnemisis  11/16/08 4:36:21 AM

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AoC was a great game... after tortage lol... that place got really boring after my first character made it through.....got a dark templar to level 50 before quitting the game, would probly still go back at some point.

Loved the combat system, im so tired of being able to afk mid fight and come back to a dead mob, was nice actually having to do some work,...only real downside i had wasnt so much wiht the game but wiht the company lol, when they threw in the nerf bat at stuff it was a hard core beating, and they were doing that stuff instead of fixin classes that were still broken.

all in all was a good game and maybe when i get completely bored of warhammer i may reactivate and see what all good things they have done to it in my absence.

Azrile  11/16/08 9:28:10 AM

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Originally posted by Hamrtime2

 


Originally posted by Azrile

Originally posted by Juudaspappi

 

.. as it is now, would you have stayed?


 

 
I probably wouldn't.  But only because of Wrath.   AOC now is a better game than Warhammer ( if you play on the right servers).  The newest patches are adding endgame content (dungeons and zones), which is what the game was sorely lacking back in July.  They have mostly fixed the client.
If aoc had launched today, it would be stealing thousands of players from Warhammer.


 


Warhammer is so far superior to AoC you cant compare the two. Even though I no longer play Warhammer, War is so much better its not funny. Azrile.....go back to your WoW forums and stay there. I take it when Darkfall is released you will do one of two things. Make a new acount and bash Darkfall and praise WoW, or use the same forum name and bash darkfall anyway hopeing no one sees you for what you are.


 

What does this have to do with WOW?   You are upset because I said AOC is better than Warhammer (right now).   AOC is currently losing less than 4% of it's players every week.  That means for the most part 96% are fairly happy with their gameplay.   Warhammer is losing about 20% of it's players per week.   There are a lot more very negative comments from current players on warhammer forums then there are here (from current players).  Most of the reasons I quit AOC have been fixed, client crashes, broken seiges, stats and itemization etc.  The only thing keeping me from trying AOC again is the reputation of Funcom and server pops.    Warhammer had a stable client and is backed by a decent company.. however the gameplay design is broken ( nobody does oRvR because of scenarios) and the combat was just slow, clunky and outdated.   AOC fixed most of it's issues, Warhammer isn't even going in the right direction.. they have made scenarios even easier to get into.

I'm not going to play Darkfall.  I don't consider it a viable product.  Its 95% vaporware at this point and it just a bunch of ideas written down on paper and a video.   If (big if) they ever do an open beta I will read more about it and might change my mind, but at this point, its not even on my radar.    The ideas sound nice on paper, but remember when everyone clamored about Warhammer being massive open pvp with a purpose and has since turned into scenariohammer and people don't even bother defending their cities because it doesn't matter if you lose them.    Great games are less about 'great ideas' and more about great execution of decent ideas. 

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Jackdog  11/16/08 10:46:54 AM

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Originally posted by AmazingAvery
Originally posted by Abrahmm

Definitely not. I quit AoC before I even got out of tortage because I thought the combat was horrible, the instancing killed immersion, and the game was all around (TORTAGE was) boring. Don't think any of those have been fixed.

 

That explains a lot. Thanks for your admission. Many people such as yourself never got off "noob" island. Makes me want to shake my head and make a 'tutting' sound. Such a shame. Don't get me wrong to judge the game on tortage like many reviews was mentioned wrong, either way. How many loading screens did you come across in Tortage, remember? Tortage is a pain but also a mild introduction. There is a story to be told. Did you try any different classes? and definately no PvP :( 

I can appreciate that might all you might need to pass judgement, but really it does offer a lot more later on, the basis being GvG play.

 

I could not bear the thought of having to redo Tortage over and over and over just to try different classes. Don't take that wrong because Tortage was definitly did very very well in my opinion, just too bad it is the only newbie path and once through it is enough for me.

I am still mildly peeved at Turbine for not adding more lvl 15 to 30 content because in the past two years ( 6 months of beta and 18 months of release) I have done the Lone Lands and N Downs to where I have most of the quests to where I know them by heart. But at least in LoTRO I can craft my gear and grind mobs instead of doing quests to get though those levels.

Anyway I qut AoC in my mid levels for a variety of reasons, mostly due to the over strict pathing and instancing. PvP cannot carry a MMO. Even the RvR in DAoC got old after awhile and it was the best PvP I have ever played

Transporter  11/16/08 10:51:57 AM

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Originally posted by Jackdog
Originally posted by AmazingAvery
Originally posted by Abrahmm

Definitely not. I quit AoC before I even got out of tortage because I thought the combat was horrible, the instancing killed immersion, and the game was all around (TORTAGE was) boring. Don't think any of those have been fixed.

 

That explains a lot. Thanks for your admission. Many people such as yourself never got off "noob" island. Makes me want to shake my head and make a 'tutting' sound. Such a shame. Don't get me wrong to judge the game on tortage like many reviews was mentioned wrong, either way. How many loading screens did you come across in Tortage, remember? Tortage is a pain but also a mild introduction. There is a story to be told. Did you try any different classes? and definately no PvP :( 

I can appreciate that might all you might need to pass judgement, but really it does offer a lot more later on, the basis being GvG play.

 

I could not bear the thought of having to redo Tortage over and over and over just to try different classes. Don't take that wrong because Tortage was definitly did very very well in my opinion, just too bad it is the only newbie path and once through it is enough for me.

I am still mildly peeved at Turbine for not adding more lvl 15 to 30 content because in the past two years ( 6 months of beta and 18 months of release) I have done the Lone Lands and N Downs to where I have most of the quests to where I know them by heart. But at least in LoTRO I can craft my gear and grind mobs instead of doing quests to get though those levels.

Anyway I qut AoC in my mid levels for a variety of reasons, mostly due to the over strict pathing and instancing. PvP cannot carry a MMO. Even the RvR in DAoC got old after awhile and it was the best PvP I have ever played


 

I agree on this one. Tortage is not as fun as the rest of the game. I liked post 20 best.

 
Jackdog  11/16/08 1:03:02 PM

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Originally posted by Transporter
Originally posted by Jackdog
Originally posted by AmazingAvery
Originally posted by Abrahmm

Definitely not. I quit AoC before I even got out of tortage because I thought the combat was horrible, the instancing killed immersion, and the game was all around (TORTAGE was) boring. Don't think any of those have been fixed.

 

That explains a lot. Thanks for your admission. Many people such as yourself never got off "noob" island. Makes me want to shake my head and make a 'tutting' sound. Such a shame. Don't get me wrong to judge the game on tortage like many reviews was mentioned wrong, either way. How many loading screens did you come across in Tortage, remember? Tortage is a pain but also a mild introduction. There is a story to be told. Did you try any different classes? and definately no PvP :( 

I can appreciate that might all you might need to pass judgement, but really it does offer a lot more later on, the basis being GvG play.

 

I could not bear the thought of having to redo Tortage over and over and over just to try different classes. Don't take that wrong because Tortage was definitly did very very well in my opinion, just too bad it is the only newbie path and once through it is enough for me.

I am still mildly peeved at Turbine for not adding more lvl 15 to 30 content because in the past two years ( 6 months of beta and 18 months of release) I have done the Lone Lands and N Downs to where I have most of the quests to where I know them by heart. But at least in LoTRO I can craft my gear and grind mobs instead of doing quests to get though those levels.

Anyway I qut AoC in my mid levels for a variety of reasons, mostly due to the over strict pathing and instancing. PvP cannot carry a MMO. Even the RvR in DAoC got old after awhile and it was the best PvP I have ever played


 

I agree on this one. Tortage is not as fun as the rest of the game. I liked post 20 best.

 

even post 20 it was paint by numbers leveling, hallway style areas and instancing, and no worthwhile crafting etc etc. The post 20 areas did not have as much atmosphere to me either. if the game had consisted of 20 or 30 areas did as well as Tortage I would still be playing maybe. Or maybe not, like I said paint by the numbers leveling and no real freedom of movement just sucked. Not to mention the still not itemized loot tables, no crafting, no item customization...sighh the list goes on and on. Definitly a B or C class MMO.

Grunties  11/16/08 1:12:26 PM

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I got to level 50 in AoC before I just couldn't take the boredom anymore, I at least got some small degree of enjoyment out of tortage and the pre level 20 content. Of course that pre-content only lasted about a day, so a day's worth of enjoyment is hardly worth the price. I could get several months worth out of enjoyment of other mmo's so... why play AoC at all? No reason to, unless you are finding yourself not appreciating all the fun that other games have, and you need to lower the bar. Level 50 is over halfway through the game so you can't say i didn't give it a fair chance.

I know there are tons of features that I took for granted in other games, and having played AoC, I now see just how bad it is when they aren't around. So I guess I have that to be thankful for. Of course, 'AoC - so bad we make you appreciate what you had in other games' is probably not much of a compliment.

But alls well that end well. Dumped that game and switched to WAR, so much happier.

 

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xpiher  11/16/08 4:30:56 PM

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Originally posted by Grunties

I got to level 50 in AoC before I just couldn't take the boredom anymore, I at least got some small degree of enjoyment out of tortage and the pre level 20 content. Of course that pre-content only lasted about a day, so a day's worth of enjoyment is hardly worth the price. I could get several months worth out of enjoyment of other mmo's so... why play AoC at all? No reason to, unless you are finding yourself not appreciating all the fun that other games have, and you need to lower the bar. Level 50 is over halfway through the game so you can't say i didn't give it a fair chance.

I know there are tons of features that I took for granted in other games, and having played AoC, I now see just how bad it is when they aren't around. So I guess I have that to be thankful for. Of course, 'AoC - so bad we make you appreciate what you had in other games' is probably not much of a compliment.

But alls well that end well. Dumped that game and switched to WAR, so much happier.

 

 

Why did you get bored? AoC in terms of quest and PvP isn't much diffrent than any other game out there. WAR's horrible in both respects and even worst than most games out there. Mini game RvR grind which takes no skill = boring to me. if you like that then play war, just don't be suprised when you leave that game for WoW.

 
Grunties  11/16/08 6:13:08 PM

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Originally posted by xpiher
Originally posted by Grunties

I got to level 50 in AoC before I just couldn't take the boredom anymore, I at least got some small degree of enjoyment out of tortage and the pre level 20 content. Of course that pre-content only lasted about a day, so a day's worth of enjoyment is hardly worth the price. I could get several months worth out of enjoyment of other mmo's so... why play AoC at all? No reason to, unless you are finding yourself not appreciating all the fun that other games have, and you need to lower the bar. Level 50 is over halfway through the game so you can't say i didn't give it a fair chance.

I know there are tons of features that I took for granted in other games, and having played AoC, I now see just how bad it is