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flakmonky  11/17/08 10:45:22 AM

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"Originally posted by eldanloco

Ahhh Darkfall, the game we all love to hate. No, we can not force them to release details about their game. I imagine if there is an actual beta happening right now it is behind 2 concrete walls, bulletproof glass, and a curtain. You know what is killing a lot of MMOs nowadays? Bad word of mouth! People go into betas with the mindset "This is the game," when it should be, "Time to do my job and test this game out to fix bugs." They then complain, turn lots of people off, and people that do make it to the game start looking for all the bugs. When they find them, and they will because it is an MMO, they act like the game is horrible and must be clensed from this earth.

Aventurine needs to keep their baby safe and sound until it is to a level of their satisfaction. The MMO community has lost its patience with games that come out with too many bugs and empty promises. How many times have you heard, "_____ feature didn't make it into release, but we will try to work it in soon!" It never makes it. Games are releasing with too many servers, which makes every server low/med populations... let's face it, too many people is not a bad thing. I used to love being a solo MMO player, but that is an antiquated notion. People like playing with other people or they would be playing Oblivion instead.

I could go on and on about the change in the MMO market, the rabid consumers, and the weak-willed developers, but the fact is that if you want to survive in this day and age in the MMO biz... you can afford few mistakes."


 

This is the best explanation of Aventurine's policy that I have found. Whatever you think of it, I'm sure that, if they have the game they say they have, then some version of this is the motivation behind their secrecy.

I am a skeptical supporter of DF. I am not a fanboi nor a troll. I seek the truth in every discussion, and I am truly sorry if I mistakenly state a fallacy.

SignusM  11/17/08 11:06:47 AM

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Originally posted by TenSpotting

Good question right?

I mean surely they would want an editor or two from the largest MMORPG site on the net to be involved in their beta. No?

They also did not hold a Beta give away here even if it was for 50 logins.

Something as SIMPLE as that would give them so much credibility. But again.. for some STRANGE reason..  it can't be done. Every other game does it.. 

You be the judge.

Me? I think they're full of shit and the Beta consists of their parents and Brannoc the dev snuggler.

Uh...why would they when they'd be under NDA anyway? Why would they want someone to make judgements about a game based on the BETA testing? Are you that thick? 

 
Mazer14  11/17/08 1:35:25 PM

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Originally posted by SignusM

Uh...why would they when they'd be under NDA anyway? Why would they want someone to make judgements about a game based on the BETA testing? Are you that thick? 


 

I do agree with you to some extent about the 'judgement' of a closed beta, but when you consider the fact that this game is supposedly launching this year, you'd think it should be almost complete.

I'm amazed that not a single person has come forth and even posted a screenshot to confirm that closed beta is in fact being carried out. Anyone without downs could get away with it. We've been going by what Tasos has been saying for the last few years with hardly any actual proof to show for it. The most gameplay footage seen would not have been possible if it weren't for a fan that got to attend the Athens event.

Aren't you the least bit skeptical/worried about the progress of the game?

I still believe the game will come out eventually, it's just the absolute unorthodox approach these guys have taken that has me wondering when it will happen and how feature-comple the game will be.

Don't even know why I bothered typing this either...

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Ihmotepp  11/17/08 2:38:46 PM

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Originally posted by TenSpotting

If I was in Beta I would hop on down to the local library...  upload a ton of screenshots to photobucket or wherever.. and even record and upload a short video clip on Char creation with total anonymity...

No one is in Beta beyond some cherry picked people.

 

The reason no beta leaks? Simple, there is only one beta tester, Tasos' Mom, and she's not talking.

 
Ihmotepp  11/17/08 2:40:15 PM

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Abrahmm  11/17/08 4:24:45 PM

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Originally posted by flakmonky

"Originally posted by eldanloco

Ahhh Darkfall, the game we all love to hate. No, we can not force them to release details about their game. I imagine if there is an actual beta happening right now it is behind 2 concrete walls, bulletproof glass, and a curtain. You know what is killing a lot of MMOs nowadays? Bad word of mouth! People go into betas with the mindset "This is the game," when it should be, "Time to do my job and test this game out to fix bugs." They then complain, turn lots of people off, and people that do make it to the game start looking for all the bugs. When they find them, and they will because it is an MMO, they act like the game is horrible and must be clensed from this earth.

Aventurine needs to keep their baby safe and sound until it is to a level of their satisfaction. The MMO community has lost its patience with games that come out with too many bugs and empty promises. How many times have you heard, "_____ feature didn't make it into release, but we will try to work it in soon!" It never makes it. Games are releasing with too many servers, which makes every server low/med populations... let's face it, too many people is not a bad thing. I used to love being a solo MMO player, but that is an antiquated notion. People like playing with other people or they would be playing Oblivion instead.

I could go on and on about the change in the MMO market, the rabid consumers, and the weak-willed developers, but the fact is that if you want to survive in this day and age in the MMO biz... you can afford few mistakes."


 

This is the best explanation of Aventurine's policy that I have found. Whatever you think of it, I'm sure that, if they have the game they say they have, then some version of this is the motivation behind their secrecy.

 

I would like to know why the fans of the game keep having to come up with excuses for Aventurine's actions instead of Aventurine explaining for themselves?

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Zorvan  11/17/08 4:53:59 PM

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Originally posted by Ihmotepp
Originally posted by TenSpotting

If I was in Beta I would hop on down to the local library...  upload a ton of screenshots to photobucket or wherever.. and even record and upload a short video clip on Char creation with total anonymity...

No one is in Beta beyond some cherry picked people.

 

The reason no beta leaks? Simple, there is only one beta tester, Tasos' Mom, and she's not talking.


 

She talks in her sleep. But it ain't about Darkfall.

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javac  11/17/08 8:01:41 PM

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Originally posted by Zorvan

This is the part where the Darkfallers will come in saying it's because Tasos and everyone else at Darkfall thinks mmorpg.com is shit and unworthy of their great game.

 

Well let's face it, mmorpg.com *is* shit.

 
IareEatBOAT  11/17/08 8:27:36 PM

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"I'd like to know why no one from mmorpg.com has been invited to this supposed Beta" - TenSpotting
How are you certain that none is?
Oh?!
Your father is the director of CIA and is monitoring all the staff members for you... I see. That's as ridiculous as your posts are.

 

Do you wan't to feel my outside on your inside? I doubt it, so shhh and let me do what I please.

0muffins0  11/17/08 8:32:12 PM