Darkfall

Originally posted by fatpanda

"you are not allowed to disclose things that are covered by the NDA, even if you are not the one in the beta."

If I'm NOT in the beta then I did NOT sign the NDA so I can talk about anything and everything I hear/see.

I worked for a game developer and am no strabger to NDA's. Now the eprson the told me or showed me anything they broke the NDA.

I realize that this is MMORPG saying "you are not allowed to disclose things that are covered by the NDA, even if you are not the one in the beta." and the can delete anything they want but again it's not breaking the NDA.

Last but not leat how do you sing an NDA for something that doesn't exist (Darkfall)?

Haha ahd to put that last part sorry.

i am sorry but reading your post made me laugh a bit. Hopefully  you didn't write the game code, because i know there is going to be some problems

Originally posted by SuperCrap

Originally posted by JayBirdz

I think people are looking at this the wrong way.  This has more to do with MMORPG.com's credibility than anything else (in the eyes of this and other MMO developers, this site is a business).  They are respecting the wishes of a developer (which is good).  So it is just another locked door, does that surprise anyone? 

Also why does an NDA need to be produced (some people are asking for this)?  It still wouldn't mean anything.   Just another locked door.    

 

I think you're looking at this the wrong way. This thread has lowered my respect for MMORPG.com staff by about ten notches, it is mmorpg.com's credibility that is at stake, not Darkfall's. Darkfall already lost their credibility in the gaming world [years ago] and can only gain credibility again by producing their game in some publicly available form.

 

After reading this thread it is hard for me not to view MMORPG.com staff as clowns. Why is this thread stickied? There is nothing here other than uninformed hearsay. NDA applies to people who aren't even party to the NDA? Yeah, try running that one past a lawyer, and good luck. I thought the Darkfall devs were just smoking ganja, but maybe they are smoking something harder like crack....

 ..... Skimming is not always a good thing.     Pretty darn sure you misunderstood my posts and probably didn't even read the whole thread since some of the stuff was covered.

Its kinda hilarious that they did not make any of their " vistors " of their " offices " sign an NDA but here we are less than 3 weeks away from when the Open Beta is supposed to FINISH and they have an NDA for testers. Doesnt make sense to me. They have to act like there is an NDA because if there wasnt and there was still no information coming out then everyone would see whats going on.

Its pretty clear that if there is a beta going on its just the devs doing the testing which is why there are no leaks out there.

Originally posted by VPellen

Originally posted by Cyborg99

VPellen I have a question for you (you don't have to answer if you don't want to)

Have you ever seen an mmo company handle an NDA like Aventurine is and have you ever considered asking them why they don't do much pr/updates?
 

 

Have I ever seen an MMO company handle an NDA like Aventurine is? In the sense of the NDA being a coverall "do not talk about the beta" thing, then.. yeah, most companies do that.

As for asking them why they don't do much PR.. I'm just a moderator with a big mouth. I am no more special than any other moderator here, and I ain't a reporter. Every company has its quirks, I guess.

Good to see your on the ball VPellen.

Sigh, its late and I read through the entire thread only to find out....

Darkfall's NDA agreement is vaporware!

Until I see a link or some other tangible proof that such a document exists, there is no credibility saying that one does, regardless whatever the DF CM says. (heck, I'll put forth he's a vapor person)

How do you "know" he's the DF CM.   Maybe I'm the DF CM?  Please tell me how you verify the credentials of such a person, because truthfully, I don't recall seeing him/her post on these forums under that  moniker.

Get them to post here in this thread if they really exist, and get Stradden to back it and I'll start to believe it.

edit: God, how I hate the BS that we have to put up with because of this game.

Originally posted by Kyleran

Sigh, its late and I read through the entire thread only to find out....

Darkfall's NDA agreement is vaporware!

Until I see a link or some other tangible proof that such a document exists, there is no credibility saying that one does, regardless whatever the DF CM says. (heck, I'll put forth he's a vapor person)

How do you "know" he's the DF CM.   Maybe I'm the DF CM?  Please tell me how you verify the credentials of such a person, because truthfully, I don't recall seeing him/her post on these forums under that  moniker.

Get them to post here in this thread if they really exist, and get Stradden to back it and I'll start to believe. it.

 

 

No I AM, you liar!

Vaporware is a somewhat derogatory term used to describe a software or hardware product that is announced by a developer well in advance of release, but which then fails to emerge after having well exceeded the period of development time that was initially claimed or would normally be expected for the development cycle of a similar product. The term implies unwarranted optimism, an as yet unannounced abandonment of a project, or sometimes even deception; that is, it may imply that the announcer knows that product development is in too early a stage to support responsible statements about its completion date, feature set, or even feasibility. However, vaporware would not be considered a hoax since the makers have a genuine intention to create their product, even if it ultimately never materializes. Products with unspecified release dates or long development times that outwardly demonstrate regular, verifiable progress in production are not normally labelled vaporware

A hoax is a deliberate attempt to dupe, deceive or trick an audience into believing, or accepting, that something is real, when in fact it is not; or that something is true, when in fact it is false. In an instance of a hoax, an object, or event, is not what it appears to be, or what it is claimed to be.

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Originally posted by Kyleran:  "Darkfall's NDA agreement is vaporware!"

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Nope.....

Darkfall = Vaporware

NDA =  Hoax

Originally posted by VPellen

Originally posted by Cyborg99

VPellen I have a question for you (you don't have to answer if you don't want to)

Have you ever seen an mmo company handle an NDA like Aventurine is and have you ever considered asking them why they don't do much pr/updates?
 

 

Have I ever seen an MMO company handle an NDA like Aventurine is? In the sense of the NDA being a coverall "do not talk about the beta" thing, then.. yeah, most companies do that.

As for asking them why they don't do much PR.. I'm just a moderator with a big mouth. I am no more special than any other moderator here, and I ain't a reporter. Every company has its quirks, I guess.

Actually, you are. Next to JelloB2000, you're my favorite.
 

Whether you consider that a compliment, or a reason to tighten your home security and buy a gun, is entirely up to you.