World of Warcraft

Originally posted by Roflan

Just say "since killing me in one or two hits is so fun for you, ill leave my character logged in, afk, while I go have sex with my wife-- I've been neglecting her a bit too long, anyway."...

 

Trust me. Saying something like that would hurt him far more than he is annoying you.

You can not talk or communicate with the opposing side in Wow. I recently got ganked on my DK by a couple of peeps. I brought my S3 / S4 mage & a couple of friends for revenge (damm you S4 shoulders). They logged after we ganked them for at least a solid thirty minutes.

Pvp happens on a pvp server. Look at your opponets guild before ganking is highly recomended thou.

Aw... Oh well. Then instead of saying it; just do it.

I just wanted to point out that if you take the lore of Warcraft into account, the horde and the alliance are bitter enemies. I figure that if an orc saw a human respawning he would get a kick out of killing him over and over again. I think it fits the whole idea of Warcraft very well. I mean... its a war between to factions that hate each other. Maybe the guy was playing the role of a guy that hates your existance. Like you know... a role playing kinda of play.

If you came up against some guy that wanted to decimate not just you but your whole race then I think you should be pissed... and stomp them badly. Hopefully they quit and thats one less soldier against your race.

Hey OP,

you know what it means? Your griefer wins.  That's right. He wanted to make you mad and piss you off royally. He succeeded.

You either accept it and move on ... sometimes the other guy imposes his will on you ... or you can sulk, post on forums etc ... but with each of these, you strengthen his position of superiority

I read this about playing poker and applies to other games as well. Anybody can play poker. But to experience the real joy and intensity and tension it is got to hurt when you lose.

Originally posted by el_muerte

to follow across Straglthorn Vale, repeatedly kill, and corpse camp one player 30 levels lower than them for the better part of an hour, even to the point of sneaking into Grom Gol base camp and hiding out for the kill, then sprinting or vanishing only to return and wait some more?  Does the fact that he's free to gank all the lowbies because every other high level is out leveling to 80 give him pleasure?  I remember ganking noobs on my old account... it got boring after like the second one, even when the 70s showed up and put on a decent fight.  How does someone enjoy doing this so much that they keep going and going and going?  I... I just can't comprehend it...

Your answers are....

College kids and younger (For the most part). Most college guys that play FPS games and yes, even MMO's are butt wipes. And kids? Well...their kids, what more can you say. Most of them are probably the ones that get beat up and stuffed in their lockers everyday, so they take out their anger on people in games where no real reprocussions other than being banned can happen to them.

Their are at least 8 people I work with that play WoW. All 8 of them range in age from 18 - 22. And all of them act like assbags at work, and all of them say they do gank. Coincidence? I think not.  And that isn't it. I have been to many malls that have internet cafe's and walked past to see droves of teens in them playing WoW. The vast majority of WoW players I'm guessing are 12 - 24 years old. Douchebaggery age ranges.

Yes, I played WoW. I quit playing WoW however because of what you have mentioned, as well as the chat channels and voice chat making me feel as though I was paying $15 a month for virtual daycare. And I LOVE the ones who say. "It's a PvP server" "Carebears that way ------->." WoW is not PvP. Games such as Ultima Online and EVE Online are PvP, because you can actually LOSE stuff. I'd love to of seen what would happen if half of the WoW community had a mind wipe of gaming the way it is now, and have to play EQ. Half would quit in 2 days because it was actually hard, challenged you, and at times, had you cussing because of a dumb mistake that caused you to de-level, etc. But that's what made it fun, the fact that you had to make decisions because they meant something. Not simply run into a situation because you could respawn at a safe zone and maybe have to pay an insignificant repair bill.

And saying it's skill is another joke. All you need is purple gear to win fights, or the highest tier purple gear against the lowest purple. No skill needed. Flame on, I know you won't disappoint.

Originally posted by lugal

I and my friends, well most people on my server, if you had a stupid name, you are gonna get camped cna chased from 1 end to the other.

And thier is no griefing in WoW. BLues even said so. You aggreed to getting your butt handed to you over and over by selecting the server. If you cant handle it, leave.

<--- Carebear servers that way.

it's not a thing of e-honor; that ceased to exist when all the knuckle-draggers appeared in the mmo-realms.  it's a thing of -- how weaksauce coated are you, if you have to fight someone JUST 10 levels under you in order for YOU to win?

if i were a 10+ levels lower than someone, and that someone decided to hunt me, i'd definitely take screenshots and post them and mock the weaksauced-marinated loser until he quit the game in shame, and he probably still wouldn't understand why everyone was berating his inability to fight and win against someone equal (or better yet, HIGHER) level than himself.

but hey, some intarwebz people are just weak.  that's why they hunt people 10, 20, 30 levels lower.

of course, it could also be an 8 year old playing on big brother's toon.  sounds like the quoted thinks fighting people half its level is cool though.  i know it stated something about stupid names; but that wasn't the topic, the topic was repeat ganking someone 30 levels lower than you.

don't get me wrong.  3 higher levels assaulting a low level village could be fun.  those villages have buff guards and lowbies can have a lot of fun with it.  but again, that's not what we're talking about.

Originally posted by OrmSunnhet

Originally posted by el_muerte

to follow across Straglthorn Vale, repeatedly kill, and corpse camp one player 30 levels lower than them for the better part of an hour, even to the point of sneaking into Grom Gol base camp and hiding out for the kill, then sprinting or vanishing only to return and wait some more?  Does the fact that he's free to gank all the lowbies because every other high level is out leveling to 80 give him pleasure?  I remember ganking noobs on my old account... it got boring after like the second one, even when the 70s showed up and put on a decent fight.  How does someone enjoy doing this so much that they keep going and going and going?  I... I just can't comprehend it...

 

Your answers are....

College kids and younger (For the most part). Most college guys that play FPS games and yes, even MMO's are butt wipes. And kids? Well...their kids, what more can you say. Most of them are probably the ones that get beat up and stuffed in their lockers everyday, so they take out their anger on people in games where no real reprocussions other than being banned can happen to them.

Their are at least 8 people I work with that play WoW. All 8 of them range in age from 18 - 22. And all of them act like assbags at work, and all of them say they do gank. Coincidence? I think not.  And that isn't it. I have been to many malls that have internet cafe's and walked past to see droves of teens in them playing WoW. The vast majority of WoW players I'm guessing are 12 - 24 years old. Douchebaggery age ranges.

Yes, I played WoW. I quit playing WoW however because of what you have mentioned, as well as the chat channels and voice chat making me feel as though I was paying $15 a month for virtual daycare. And I LOVE the ones who say. "It's a PvP server" "Carebears that way ------->." WoW is not PvP. Games such as Ultima Online and EVE Online are PvP, because you can actually LOSE stuff. I'd love to of seen what would happen if half of the WoW community had a mind wipe of gaming the way it is now, and have to play EQ. Half would quit in 2 days because it was actually hard, challenged you, and at times, had you cussing because of a dumb mistake that caused you to de-level, etc. But that's what made it fun, the fact that you had to make decisions because they meant something. Not simply run into a situation because you could respawn at a safe zone and maybe have to pay an insignificant repair bill.

And saying it's skill is another joke. All you need is purple gear to win fights, or the highest tier purple gear against the lowest purple. No skill needed. Flame on, I know you won't disappoint.

it's like you said, if you want pvp, you play a game like eve online.    there's not any server you can point to for pvp or carebear in wow.  sorry, there's not.

what do i lose on a pvp server that i don't lose on a pve server?  can i be looted on a pvp server?  do i get like 5x the damage to my gear on a pvp server? 

in wow, a pvp server offers you the option of being in a world at war.  in theory, that would mean that if you're lvl 50 running missions, you might run across enemies that are level 48-52 who are running missions in the same area and that your group and their group could engage in battle, even if one side didn't want to "duel".  in theory, that's how it should work and that's where a pvp server in wow differs from a pve server.

but, as has been stated, those who don't get it... abuse the system in order to compensate for other inadequacies.

yes, i play eve online.  so pvp SERVER (singular) that way -------->>>

Originally posted by ackmhed

Originally posted by el_muerte

Originally posted by ackmhed

You made it the "worst instance of griefing I've come across yet.." by continuing to spawn and give him the chance to gank you. No one is responsible for that but you. And yes, by posting here you are in fact whining like a baby. PvP is not for you. Go roll PVE.

How will it get worse? As an experienced PvP player I will save you the frustration and tell you that this minor incident is nothing compared to how really bad it can get. Some can handle it and some can't. You, sir, fit the later. Save yourself some pain and roll PvE. Maybe someday you will have thick enough skin to handle PvP, [Doubt it!], until then go play on a PvE server where you will not have to worry about such things.

Look here, son, I've been playing WoW on PvP servers since it first rolled out four years ago.  I think I know the difference between PvP and blatant griefing, but it's pretty obvious that you don't.  In fact it would appear you're not much more than an arrogant adolescent who gets off on trying to make other people look bad.  Your logic is skewed, perhaps because you are one of those kids discussed in this thread who got bullied at school or sucks at PvP against equal opponents.  But hey, when a bank gets robbed, it really is their fault for unlocking the door during business hours, and when a woman gets raped, well shit, she probably shouldn'ta worn that short skirt out in public.  Am I right?  Hell no, but that's approximately how ridiculous you're coming across by saying it's my fault for respawning.  But that's OK, next time I'll wait half an hour like you suggested instead of the 15 minutes that I did.  I'm sure that's all the difference right there. 

What's an "experienced PvP player" even mean in your mind?  You've racked up XX amount of kills, by grinding battlegrounds 14 hours a day?  You've achieved XX arena ranking?  You have your guildies come out and curbstomp whoever defeats you in world PvP?  Congratulations, that don't earn you respect.  Treating others with a little decency and dignity might though, you should try it rather than name-calling.  If you can't participate in a discussion without putting on the better-than-you attitude just stay out next time.  Seriously.  If this thread bothers you so much that you can't reply without coming off like an insolent asshat, the back button on your browser will make you a lot more friends than the "Reply" button on the page (or at least lose you less).

 

Comparing being ganked in WoW to real-life crime is idiotic. If you think what the ganker did to you was comparable to someone raping or robbing, go seek some counseling.

You rolled PvP, expect to get ganked. We need more gankers in WoW to weed out the whiners and send them back to the PvE servers they came from.

An "experienced PvP player" can mean many things, but they all share one common qaulity: they don't whine when they get ganked. They pick themselves up, dust themselves off, and move on. You repeatedly respawned while someone was camping you. You have no-one to blame but yourself for continuing to give him the opportunity to gank. There are far too many non-pvpers rolling on PvP servers and expecting things to be how they think it should be.

actually, the way it works is that in pvp games (like eve online), we weed out the weaklings and whiners and they go to a 'very low penalty' pvp game, so they can feel da ubers.

the only point which "30 levels lower than you ganking" serves is to slow down someone's level progression.  that's not ganking, that's weaksauce griefing.  you want to gank and grief, you come to a pvp game, like eve.  otherwise, 30 levels lower than you, is just pathetic and shows you can't handle your own.

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