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Greyhooff  11/19/08 5:33:40 AM

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Roll a class that fits what you want to do:

 

- Tanks are not damage dealers. That chosen might look like a dpser in heavy armor on the loading screen but it's not :) If you roll a tank prepare to use a shield at all times and to protect your group/warband and be on the front lines soaking up damage and scaring the opposition by surviving. Tank damage is very low, but the effect they have on a battlefield is hugely important, it's a hard class to master with guard-switching, hold the line to protect your melee, and knowing how to push entire groups of enemies backwards but it's a huge adrenaline rush to slowly but determinedly hold your front line and start to push into large enemy armies. You're the rock, not the scissors, but the rock protects both the paper and the scissors :)

- Healers heal, they are not there for damage and this becomes increasingly the case at 40+. The dps specs are simply there for levelling and solo PVE, healers in WAR are extremely specialised and are possibly the most skill dependent classes in the game. Good healers are highly sought and well-known. Be aware that you are the center of the enemies' attention - you need to heal your tanks and dps so they can survive long enough to kill the dozens of enemies that will be gunning for you at every moment :)

- DPS needs to dps skillfully, there are too many dps out there who take it too slow or don't dps and CC well enough. Being a dps class does not mean you get an easy ride, for your team to win you need to be at the top of your game and push out better and better damage or you fail. You need to be sharp scissors, not dull scissors that can't cut paper ;) Keep an eye on the healers, crowd control and dps fast anything that attacks them and hold behind your tanks (especially tanks using "hold the line") so they can soak that damage that will kill you but that is merely scratching them. Survive and keep up the damage at all times

 

Roll a class based on what role you want to fill, and get out there and be the best at that role. There are no hybrids in WAR, every class is a specialist healer, tank, or damage, with a few CCs spread out among all classes. Make your pick and push it to the fullest. Or pick 1 of each role and take them all forward in tandem to see what you are best at :)

 
LoboMau  11/19/08 8:52:19 AM

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I agree completely.

 
ZeroDepth  11/19/08 10:45:08 AM

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Originally posted by Greyhooff

Roll a class based on what role you want to fill, and get out there and be the best at that role. There are no hybrids in WAR, every class is a specialist healer, tank, or damage, with a few CCs spread out among all classes. Make your pick and push it to the fullest. Or pick 1 of each role and take them all forward in tandem to see what you are best at :)

 

Agreed.

For example tanks often charge the enemy front lines but often die in the process despite healing (which can be frustrating).  However the valuable minute or so they are up front I am able to cast my AoEs and literally decimate any enemy within 20 feet of them.  

Also this distracts their healers allowing our melee dps to target them.  Enemy tanks without healers are fodder to our casters.   

So there sacrifice helps us push the enemy lines and helps the team overall ^_^  

 
Gregtheexcon  11/19/08 11:03:57 AM

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 I agree a bit about your post, just a bit though. 

Playing to your fullest is a must, nott half assing through the game or afking. But to say no hybrids. I have to disagree. The way classes are set, they can do something else. My swordmaster is a 2 handed user. So that gives me a decent dps with a good crit rate (+20 pct crit rate on perfect balance and 10pct on improved then theres my 2 DoT's for centuries of training and imprved enchants that go  off just for hitting them, plus being able to steal 100 stat points from all enemies within 30 feet of the one im pounding ) so I can dish out some sweet damage. With my Hoeths armour buff (extra armour and +5 pct to disrupt) I am a pretty tough person to bring down with a good hit. He may be set for a tank but if I choose to dps I am a tough cookie when im bashing there backline squishes.

Then theres the healer thing, I hate this. My Zealot is a midrange damage +healing. In tier 1 scenario's I could pop out 10-12k damage with about 10-12k healing which isn't bad. In tier  I was pushing 20k+ on both stats. My zealot has tactic for +25 pct damage buff, and wih my intel items on and my dots instant cast spells I am hitting for a decent amount + throwing HoT's and a few heals to front line guys (Guys on the back line are NOT my priority its pushing the line) 

In the end yes, classes have things they are better suited for, but with the ability to max out diffrent stats, rnown points and tactics the option to sway from the cookie cutter is there. The diffrence is when someone goes outside the box, they tend to not know how to handle it, thats the problem. But I stand by my decsion with my zealot and do very well, same with my swordmaster. 

If anyone wants to disput this by all means go ahead, but when someone has skill they can make it work. I know I do. And I find i very enjoyable to be the "diffrent" kind of player

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Greyhooff  11/19/08 11:48:45 AM

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Originally posted by Gregtheexcon

 I agree a bit about your post, just a bit though. 

Playing to your fullest is a must, nott half assing through the game or afking. But to say no hybrids. I have to disagree. The way classes are set, they can do something else. My swordmaster is a 2 handed user. So that gives me a decent dps with a good crit rate (+20 pct crit rate on perfect balance and 10pct on improved then theres my 2 DoT's for centuries of training and imprved enchants that go  off just for hitting them, plus being able to steal 100 stat points from all enemies within 30 feet of the one im pounding ) so I can dish out some sweet damage. With my Hoeths armour buff (extra armour and +5 pct to disrupt) I am a pretty tough person to bring down with a good hit. He may be set for a tank but if I choose to dps I am a tough cookie when im bashing there backline squishes.

Then theres the healer thing, I hate this. My Zealot is a midrange damage +healing. In tier 1 scenario's I could pop out 10-12k damage with about 10-12k healing which isn't bad. In tier  I was pushing 20k+ on both stats. My zealot has tactic for +25 pct damage buff, and wih my intel items on and my dots instant cast spells I am hitting for a decent amount + throwing HoT's and a few heals to front line guys (Guys on the back line are NOT my priority its pushing the line) 

In the end yes, classes have things they are better suited for, but with the ability to max out diffrent stats, rnown points and tactics the option to sway from the cookie cutter is there. The diffrence is when someone goes outside the box, they tend to not know how to handle it, thats the problem. But I stand by my decsion with my zealot and do very well, same with my swordmaster. 

If anyone wants to disput this by all means go ahead, but when someone has skill they can make it work. I know I do. And I find i very enjoyable to be the "diffrent" kind of player

 

I can assure you all those weaksauce dps tanks and dps healers think the same as you. Enjoy not realising that hybridising doesn't work and that you're only performing at 50% of what your team needs you to be :)

 
Gregtheexcon  11/19/08 11:59:28 AM

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Originally posted by Greyhooff
Originally posted by Gregtheexcon

 I agree a bit about your post, just a bit though. 

Playing to your fullest is a must, nott half assing through the game or afking. But to say no hybrids. I have to disagree. The way classes are set, they can do something else. My swordmaster is a 2 handed user. So that gives me a decent dps with a good crit rate (+20 pct crit rate on perfect balance and 10pct on improved then theres my 2 DoT's for centuries of training and imprved enchants that go  off just for hitting them, plus being able to steal 100 stat points from all enemies within 30 feet of the one im pounding ) so I can dish out some sweet damage. With my Hoeths armour buff (extra armour and +5 pct to disrupt) I am a pretty tough person to bring down with a good hit. He may be set for a tank but if I choose to dps I am a tough cookie when im bashing there backline squishes.

Then theres the healer thing, I hate this. My Zealot is a midrange damage +healing. In tier 1 scenario's I could pop out 10-12k damage with about 10-12k healing which isn't bad. In tier  I was pushing 20k+ on both stats. My zealot has tactic for +25 pct damage buff, and wih my intel items on and my dots instant cast spells I am hitting for a decent amount + throwing HoT's and a few heals to front line guys (Guys on the back line are NOT my priority its pushing the line) 

In the end yes, classes have things they are better suited for, but with the ability to max out diffrent stats, rnown points and tactics the option to sway from the cookie cutter is there. The diffrence is when someone goes outside the box, they tend to not know how to handle it, thats the problem. But I stand by my decsion with my zealot and do very well, same with my swordmaster. 

If anyone wants to disput this by all means go ahead, but when someone has skill they can make it work. I know I do. And I find i very enjoyable to be the "diffrent" kind of player

 

I can assure you all those weaksauce dps tanks and dps healers think the same as you. Enjoy not realising that hybridising doesn't work and that you're only performing at 50% of what your team needs you to be :)

Thats harsh man, I was nice about your useless cookie cutter idea.

But no, its not 50 pct, If I match others in damage plus throw up healing whats wrong? I DO AS MUCH DAMAGE! So if I play any other class and match the others damage im doing my job right? So why not be a diffrent class, match theres and do healing as well. Your post is flawed, you are flawed, your system is flawed.

Don't bring something to the table unless you know its true. I play well, and do good. you don't like it pay my sub and I'll play however you want me to. My money, my character, my way. AND I keep up  with the other DPS with HEALS! so yeah, im doing my part, now do yours here and make sense.

 

(When I say match I mean other then sorc dps, and no they don't suck, I just know how to play cause its in almost every scenario, also, just because I join a scenario does not mean less zealots can join, so whats the diff what kind of dps I roll if i can perform and keep up?)

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Gscully  11/19/08 12:29:02 PM

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--- Healers heal, they are not there for damage and this becomes increasingly the case at 40+. The dps specs are simply there for levelling and solo PVE, healers in WAR are extremely specialised and are possibly the most skill dependent classes in the game. Good healers are highly sought and well-known. Be aware that you are the center of the enemies' attention - you need to heal your tanks and dps so they can survive long enough to kill the dozens of enemies that will be gunning for you at every moment :) -

I always find these comments funny, you have no clue how our healing works do you? I'm a 30 Shaman, if I only heal and do no damage my heals suck, and my protection spells suck too, if I throw out a few DOTs before a heal they are much more powerfull. If I have a moral ability on 'Do somfin Useful' the more Waaagh I have the more protection it gives. I dont use Bunch of Waaagh to often but when I do it's usually to finish off a player that someone else is neglectied to do.

I also enjoy using 'Gork Says Stop' as often as possible, I've killed many a stunty and BW's with it.

So my advice to the OP, play the role before you tell others how to play it, thank you very much.. and if you have - are you having fun being a bot?

And as many others have said, once you pay for my sub I'll play it your way, otherwise I'll play the game to have fun (and fun too me is helping my team and doing some killing.) and not being a healbot.

Now if I were to suggest some classes that are needed, - tanks and healers. Seems to be a lack of both on a lot of servers. I can see a lot of healers just leaving cause of people like the op telling them how to play their job and not having fun with it.

 
Greyhooff  11/19/08 2:24:44 PM

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Originally posted by Gscully

--- Healers heal, they are not there for damage and this becomes increasingly the case at 40+. The dps specs are simply there for levelling and solo PVE, healers in WAR are extremely specialised and are possibly the most skill dependent classes in the game. Good healers are highly sought and well-known. Be aware that you are the center of the enemies' attention - you need to heal your tanks and dps so they can survive long enough to kill the dozens of enemies that will be gunning for you at every moment :) -

I always find these comments funny, you have no clue how our healing works do you? I'm a 30 Shaman, if I only heal and do no damage my heals suck, and my protection spells suck too, if I throw out a few DOTs before a heal they are much more powerfull. If I have a moral ability on 'Do somfin Useful' the more Waaagh I have the more protection it gives. I dont use Bunch of Waaagh to often but when I do it's usually to finish off a player that someone else is neglectied to do.

I also enjoy using 'Gork Says Stop' as often as possible, I've killed many a stunty and BW's with it.

So my advice to the OP, play the role before you tell others how to play it, thank you very much.. and if you have - are you having fun being a bot?

And as many others have said, once you pay for my sub I'll play it your way, otherwise I'll play the game to have fun (and fun too me is helping my team and doing some killing.) and not being a healbot.

Now if I were to suggest some classes that are needed, - tanks and healers. Seems to be a lack of both on a lot of servers. I can see a lot of healers just leaving cause of people like the op telling them how to play their job and not having fun with it.

 

It's your choice to be bad at the game

I play a healer main and a tank alt, and I play them both well enough that I'm in the best premade on our server, we are well known :)

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