General Discussion

Alrite so I'm looking for a new MMORPG. After playing wow and doing the end game to the open doors of wrath I just lost the spark of it. With the same reasons as everyone else(Terribad community,put up with bs just to see end game, and wrath has no more idiot check like BC did for end game). Basically heres what I'm looking for

-Large based community with an active community. Also, a community that does instances and/or dungeons and that you can always find one. I do not want to wait 3 hours to find a dungeon since PVE is the aspect I'm going for

-PVE oriented with some PVP. Not a huge fan of PVP and I'm looking for strategic and very cinematic end game fights. If it exists an MMORPG where the fight is actually challenging. Not doing the 3 phases on the left and the next set on the right for 2 years.

-Fun to play but with casual in mind. As I'm getting busy I can not have a game that will take me 2 hours to reach a quest area thats being camped by 100 other people. I want a game where the progression is fast but doesn't require a whole lot of bs to get from point A to B. Like I said I played WoW and travel times take forever just to kill a mob and travel forever to get back.

-No Asian type of mmorpgs.. I tried perfect world and a couple others and the music is just so bad and guys look like girls and its really like watching a cartoon

I've been scanning through and would love to hear your opinions about Guild Wars from what I heard its not much of a grind fest. Only concern I have is.. is there anybody playing it? Like I said I'm looking for a large community with alot of active players. Also if its leaning more towards PVP or PVE

I've also been looking at LOTRO and tried the trial awhile back and the graphics were superb. It just felt like WoW too much and would love to hear from people who are actually in depth in the game that can give me pros and cons about it.

CoH I've tried the free trial and it seemed fun at first with a really helpful community its basically saving the same ladys purse 1000 times and there is no end game pve..

THANKS for the help I'd really appreciate it

i would say reading your post, LOTRO or EQ2 seem like your best fit, and since you tried LOTRO, try the EQ2 trial

Guildwars should work, yes. Nice graphics, litle grinding and quite big game so it is easy to find groups.

Only downside to the game is that it isn't based on gear, once you get to 20 and find a nice weapon most of the things you get are about looks. Also, Guildwars is pretty much harder than Wow, particulary once you run through the campaign and started it in hardmode.

But it is really worth trying.

EQ2 is a very good group based game but the community have  been dropping the last 9 months, might be that it started go up again after the expansion, dunno. Still if you want something more similar to Wow than GW, it is worth a free try. Just see that you play on a US server, the EU servers lagg badly.

Originally posted by Loke666

Only downside to the game is that it isn't based on gear

Downside??

Originally posted by Lydon

Downside??

Many people think so yes, and expect to RAID for gear.

I really had to write that one down, or the OP would be dissapointed if he was looking for that kind of game.

Originally posted by Loke666

Originally posted by Lydon

Downside??

Many people think so yes, and expect to RAID for gear.

I really had to write that one down, or the OP would be dissapointed if he was looking for that kind of game.

That was the point of Guild Wars - to eliminate the need for gear as people get frustrated having to grind for items. In the essence of the game that Guild Wars is, the fact that gear is useless isn't such a bad thing at all. 

I wouldn't mind it being gear dependant or not as long as its fun. Trust me I've raided months at a time to get full t6/swp gear in WoW. Like I said on my OP I won't have time for that kind of game. Is there any end game in guild wars though? Because I've been looking but haven't seen any videos or anything about end game raids on the game. Although I'm trying to stay away from the many hours of dedication I'm still looking for a game to keep me running it for a good while as I won't have time to be jumping from game to game sub to sub. Thanks for the input so far!

You seem to think WoW is a game that needs to be played 7 days a week 24/7.
Well, then I can tell you that is not true. I raid 3 times a week, I cleared everything. I work, I have a girlfriend and a social life. So, you dont have to spend your whole life on WoW tbh.

Originally posted by loveztofork

I wouldn't mind it being gear dependant or not as long as its fun. Trust me I've raided months at a time to get full t6/swp gear in WoW. Like I said on my OP I won't have time for that kind of game. Is there any end game in guild wars though? Because I've been looking but haven't seen any videos or anything about end game raids on the game. Although I'm trying to stay away from the many hours of dedication I'm still looking for a game to keep me running it for a good while as I won't have time to be jumping from game to game sub to sub. Thanks for the input so far!

Guild Wars works differently. The end game takes a long time to achieve due to features such as Hard Mode being present. There are elite missions and dungeons one can run. But Guild Wars shines in the PvP department. It's PvP is excellent - by far the best I've ever played - and extremely addictive. As a result most end up doing that. 

Of course, one can work towards titles and do other PvE content should one not wish to PvP.