EVE Online

Originally posted by Krasher

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well i make something similar i go in a kestrel take the ore from can and put on my can(also bookmark the can) then leave go to station and take a manticore and warp back on belt most of ppl take back the ore and then i kill them, even old players that have a exhumer

and some times i go in noob system put a can near station and put name "take my stuff" "free stuff" or "expensive stuff" when they steal the loot i kill them, many of them just begin to insult and i tell them some like "welcome to eve noob" few of them really ask what happen and i explain them what happen etc
scamming happen if you dont OPEN you Eyes
is like on real like i make a big wood box and put the name on it "Mercedes" and the box is empty is my fault that you dont look inside ?

OMFG...I SOOOOOOOO want to play this game now!! 

I said it before and I will say it again...Eve keeps psychopaths off the street and thus, serves a purpose. Fanbois please kiss my ass.

I love hearing comments like this lol.  Overexagerate much?  /kiss  (and i quit a long time ago so call me a fanboi if you want)

Carebear games keep the sad people in their basements and not reproducing to serve the purpose of natural selection  (wow i didnt realize how easy it was to make crazy and immature comments about a certain class of gamer just because i dont play like them)

Originally posted by Rhoklaw

To those who wanted to know what happened, it's pretty simple. A certain pilot, name being witheld because I don't care if he lives or dies, was doing a lot of can flippin. Not just to me, but pretty much anyone in the system.

This person would just fly around in his frigate, looking for new players who just might be using can's to temporarily store ore and steal it. Of course the first time he did this, I ignored him, cause I didn't have the means to fight. Most new players in mining ships have no combat skills.

Eventually, after a weeks worth of mining, I grew tired of this guy and his annoying attempts to provoke. Needless to say, I almost blew up his little frigate, then took the ore back that he stole. Ya, he came back in his big bad ship and blew me up after scrambling me.

Most of you are probably right about just ignoring him, but when someone plays a game and does nothing but annoy you, day after day, it really gets old. No, this does not happen in other games because its not hard to pack up and move somewhere else. Granted, I could just leave my stuff behind, but then I'll have crap all over the universe while trying to dodge Mr. Noobkiller.

I don't care that I lost my ship, I can mine the cost back in an hour. It's that this guy is relentless and does nothing else. I'm sure its absolutely normal in Eve, since a lot of you folks have titled me a Drama Queen. However, from a new players prespective, your attitude is the exact reason players do leave. Eve is for PvP, I understand that, but with no area to get your feet wet, NEW PLAYERS may learn all to quickly just how harsh the game is and quit before they've even started.

I got what I deserved, cause I attacked some guy with no life. I'm just trying to let new players, like myself, know what exactly goes on in Eve. I can't say it happens to everyone but the guy that was bothering me was the same guy that made me quit 2 years ago. Congrats to him and his noob destroying abilities, but thats just a deterant to Eve getting any new subscriptions, oh well.

ive been trying to stay away from posting in this thread because i do not play EVE anymore (for reasons involving work/school/life and i wish i would have the time to invest in this game...its an awesome game)

but i could not help it after reading this part.

is it just me or there are 2 things in the statement highlighted in red that are utter Fail?

1-- "after weeks worth of mining, I grew tired of this guy" why remain in that system for a week if the guy keeps stealing your stuff... like a friend of mine would say (storm trooper) " move along..."

2-- " I almost blew up his little frigate, then took the ore back" how can you almost blow up a ship and then take your stuff back?

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in a game like EVE, which is a perfect definition of a Sandbox game, professions outside the game designs will be born.

some examples 

thief: he will go around stealing stuff from anyone he can, but he has to work hard to not get killed and he might be on the run always hiding because he has large bounty on his head.

pirate  (or pirate corp): a group of players who will make their money by attacking other players and take the booty (loot) like real pirates used to do  (GASP!!) they will have their territory and stations with their stack of ships and stolen goods.

the opposite of pirates is manufacturing corps: they make their money by buying ore from mining corps and making stuff that they sell to regular players or other corporations., again they will have territory and stations that are defended by

mercenaries corps: they get payed to defend miners and manufaturers

and so on and on and on...

so in conclusion, i am sorry to say that you don't have what it takes to be a EVE player. so go play your solo user friendly games and leave EVE to those who can take thieves and pirates as "part of the game"

P.S. i dont know what you would have done in Ultima Online. where if you die you loose everything and your house who is locked and boobie traped could completely be stolen by a thieves guild. (lockpick, detect trap) yoink! you come back the next day to an empty house (including your furniture and your hired vendors dead) but that was part of the game

and honestly this kind of game is a type that has more chance of having a healthy economy.

(sorry for the long post)

Originally posted by Squal'Zell

Originally posted by Rhoklaw

To those who wanted to know what happened, it's pretty simple. A certain pilot, name being witheld because I don't care if he lives or dies, was doing a lot of can flippin. Not just to me, but pretty much anyone in the system.

This person would just fly around in his frigate, looking for new players who just might be using can's to temporarily store ore and steal it. Of course the first time he did this, I ignored him, cause I didn't have the means to fight. Most new players in mining ships have no combat skills.

Eventually, after a weeks worth of mining, I grew tired of this guy and his annoying attempts to provoke. Needless to say, I almost blew up his little frigate, then took the ore back that he stole. Ya, he came back in his big bad ship and blew me up after scrambling me.

Most of you are probably right about just ignoring him, but when someone plays a game and does nothing but annoy you, day after day, it really gets old. No, this does not happen in other games because its not hard to pack up and move somewhere else. Granted, I could just leave my stuff behind, but then I'll have crap all over the universe while trying to dodge Mr. Noobkiller.

I don't care that I lost my ship, I can mine the cost back in an hour. It's that this guy is relentless and does nothing else. I'm sure its absolutely normal in Eve, since a lot of you folks have titled me a Drama Queen. However, from a new players prespective, your attitude is the exact reason players do leave. Eve is for PvP, I understand that, but with no area to get your feet wet, NEW PLAYERS may learn all to quickly just how harsh the game is and quit before they've even started.

I got what I deserved, cause I attacked some guy with no life. I'm just trying to let new players, like myself, know what exactly goes on in Eve. I can't say it happens to everyone but the guy that was bothering me was the same guy that made me quit 2 years ago. Congrats to him and his noob destroying abilities, but thats just a deterant to Eve getting any new subscriptions, oh well.

ive been trying to stay away from posting in this thread because i do not play EVE anymore (for reasons involving work/school/life and i wish i would have the time to invest in this game...its an awesome game)

but i could not help it after reading this part.

is it just me or there are 2 things in the statement highlighted in red that are utter Fail?

1-- "after weeks worth of mining, I grew tired of this guy" why remain in that system for a week if the guy keeps stealing your stuff... like a friend of mine would say (storm trooper) " move along..."

2-- " I almost blew up his little frigate, then took the ore back" how can you almost blow up a ship and then take your stuff back?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

in a game like EVE, which is a perfect definition of a Sandbox game, professions outside the game designs will be born.

some examples 

thief: he will go around stealing stuff from anyone he can, but he has to work hard to not get killed and he might be on the run always hiding because he has large bounty on his head.

pirate  (or pirate corp): a group of players who will make their money by attacking other players and take the booty (loot) like real pirates used to do  (GASP!!) they will have their territory and stations with their stack of ships and stolen goods.

the opposite of pirates is manufacturing corps: they make their money by buying ore from mining corps and making stuff that they sell to regular players or other corporations., again they will have territory and stations that are defended by

mercenaries corps: they get payed to defend miners and manufaturers

and so on and on and on...

 

so in conclusion, i am sorry to say that you don't have what it takes to be a EVE player. so go play your solo user friendly games and leave EVE to those who can take thieves and pirates as "part of the game"

P.S. i dont know what you would have done in Ultima Online. where if you die you loose everything and your house who is locked and boobie traped could completely be stolen by a thieves guild. (lockpick, detect trap) yoink! you come back the next day to an empty house (including your furniture and your hired vendors dead) but that was part of the game

and honestly this kind of game is a type that has more chance of having a healthy economy.

(sorry for the long post)

 

I guess theres different types of entertainment then. I don't go to a movie, so some moron can talk on his cell phone the whole time. I don't eat at a fancy restaurant so a solicitor can come in and ask me to feed his kids cause instead of working, he spends all his time begging.

I never played UO, but I have played AC Darktide, DAoC PvP servers, Planetside, Shadowbane, SWG, WAR and several other PvP oriented games. Everyone of them has their own take on what PvP system works best. Theres a fine line between Hardcore PvP fanatics and PvP Enthusiasts. That line is called ganking, which usually consists of lowlife veteran players or high level toons who prey on lowbies, or in Eve's case, rookie pilots.

Ganking is not a highly anticipated game feature in by any means. No one likes it except for maybe the sicko who has no life and grinds to max level in order to act out his power hungry fantasies in-game. PvP can be just as entertaining on a level playing field. Games that offer such an option would be First Person Shooters. Of course, you can mix FPS's into the MMO market to come up with something thats a little more, entertaining in terms of longevity.

Eve is not setup to be friendly towards new players. Stealing is not illegal in Concord's eyes, yet attacking another ship is. No quarrels with CCP, but that sort of setup screams gankfest all over it. It's like the bully on the way to school, who takes your lunch money. Yes, that is what I live for in an MMO. To pay $15 a month so some other person can take advantage of my lack of abilities to retaliate.

In my opinion, PvP doesn't need absurd risks to be entertaining. For me, fighting other players is all the entertainment I need. So no, losing everything I may have earned in 2 years all in a week is not the kind of game I would consider entertaining. Instead, I would call that a second job with a nightmare twist.

I'm not afraid of PvP, just tired of people who enjoy ganking lowbies or rookies. Most other games allow you to eventually compete, but in Eve, if you keep getting killed, you lose isk and with no isk, you cant buy new skills or ships. Eve isn't PvP, it's just a bully's playground.

Originally posted by Rhoklaw

Originally posted by Squal'Zell

Originally posted by Rhoklaw

To those who wanted to know what happened, it's pretty simple. A certain pilot, name being witheld because I don't care if he lives or dies, was doing a lot of can flippin. Not just to me, but pretty much anyone in the system.

This person would just fly around in his frigate, looking for new players who just might be using can's to temporarily store ore and steal it. Of course the first time he did this, I ignored him, cause I didn't have the means to fight. Most new players in mining ships have no combat skills.

Eventually, after a weeks worth of mining, I grew tired of this guy and his annoying attempts to provoke. Needless to say, I almost blew up his little frigate, then took the ore back that he stole. Ya, he came back in his big bad ship and blew me up after scrambling me.

Most of you are probably right about just ignoring him, but when someone plays a game and does nothing but annoy you, day after day, it really gets old. No, this does not happen in other games because its not hard to pack up and move somewhere else. Granted, I could just leave my stuff behind, but then I'll have crap all over the universe while trying to dodge Mr. Noobkiller.

I don't care that I lost my ship, I can mine the cost back in an hour. It's that this guy is relentless and does nothing else. I'm sure its absolutely normal in Eve, since a lot of you folks have titled me a Drama Queen. However, from a new players prespective, your attitude is the exact reason players do leave. Eve is for PvP, I understand that, but with no area to get your feet wet, NEW PLAYERS may learn all to quickly just how harsh the game is and quit before they've even started.

I got what I deserved, cause I attacked some guy with no life. I'm just trying to let new players, like myself, know what exactly goes on in Eve. I can't say it happens to everyone but the guy that was bothering me was the same guy that made me quit 2 years ago. Congrats to him and his noob destroying abilities, but thats just a deterant to Eve getting any new subscriptions, oh well.

ive been trying to stay away from posting in this thread because i do not play EVE anymore (for reasons involving work/school/life and i wish i would have the time to invest in this game...its an awesome game)

but i could not help it after reading this part.

is it just me or there are 2 things in the statement highlighted in red that are utter Fail?

1-- "after weeks worth of mining, I grew tired of this guy" why remain in that system for a week if the guy keeps stealing your stuff... like a friend of mine would say (storm trooper) " move along..."

2-- " I almost blew up his little frigate, then took the ore back" how can you almost blow up a ship and then take your stuff back?

--------------------------------------------------------------------------

in a game like EVE, which is a perfect definition of a Sandbox game, professions outside the game designs will be born.

some examples 

thief: he will go around stealing stuff from anyone he can, but he has to work hard to not get killed and he might be on the run always hiding because he has large bounty on his head.

pirate  (or pirate corp): a group of players who will make their money by attacking other players and take the booty (loot) like real pirates used to do  (GASP!!) they will have their territory and stations with their stack of ships and stolen goods.

the opposite of pirates is manufacturing corps: they make their money by buying ore from mining corps and making stuff that they sell to regular players or other corporations., again they will have territory and stations that are defended by

mercenaries corps: they get payed to defend miners and manufaturers

and so on and on and on...

 

so in conclusion, i am sorry to say that you don't have what it takes to be a EVE player. so go play your solo user friendly games and leave EVE to those who can take thieves and pirates as "part of the game"

P.S. i dont know what you would have done in Ultima Online. where if you die you loose everything and your house who is locked and boobie traped could completely be stolen by a thieves guild. (lockpick, detect trap) yoink! you come back the next day to an empty house (including your furniture and your hired vendors dead) but that was part of the game

and honestly this kind of game is a type that has more chance of having a healthy economy.

(sorry for the long post)

 

 

I guess theres different types of entertainment then. I don't go to a movie, so some moron can talk on his cell phone the whole time. I don't eat at a fancy restaurant so a solicitor can come in and ask me to feed his kids cause instead of working, he spends all his time begging.

I never played UO, but I have played AC Darktide, DAoC PvP servers, Planetside, Shadowbane, SWG, WAR and several other PvP oriented games. Everyone of them has their own take on what PvP system works best. Theres a fine line between Hardcore PvP fanatics and PvP Enthusiasts. That line is called ganking, which usually consists of lowlife veteran players or high level toons who prey on lowbies, or in Eve's case, rookie pilots.

Ganking is not a highly anticipated game feature in by any means. No one likes it except for maybe the sicko who has no life and grinds to max level in order to act out his power hungry fantasies in-game. PvP can be just as entertaining on a level playing field. Games that offer such an option would be First Person Shooters. Of course, you can mix FPS's into the MMO market to come up with something thats a little more, entertaining in terms of longevity.

Eve is not setup to be friendly towards new players. Stealing is not illegal in Concord's eyes, yet attacking another ship is. No quarrels with CCP, but that sort of setup screams gankfest all over it. It's like the bully on the way to school, who takes your lunch money. Yes, that is what I live for in an MMO. To pay $15 a month so some other person can take advantage of my lack of abilities to retaliate.

In my opinion, PvP doesn't need absurd risks to be entertaining. For me, fighting other players is all the entertainment I need. (EVE definitively not for you) So no, losing everything I may have earned in 2 years all in a week is not the kind of game I would consider entertaining. Instead, I would call that a second job with a nightmare twist.

I'm not afraid of PvP, just tired of people who enjoy ganking lowbies or rookies. Most other games allow you to eventually compete, but in Eve, if you keep getting killed, you lose isk and with no isk, you cant buy new skills or ships. Eve isn't PvP, it's just a bully's playground.

ive started the game 4 times now... never hapened to me. stay in 1.0 -0.4 space until you are ready to go out into the harsh world.

according to the description of the type of game you want, the only thing i have to tell you is: go play unreal tournament... oh wait someone that has been playing 2 years of unreal can totally own a rookie who just started.... still to harsh for you... lets see.... i guess hellokitty online for you.

but in all seriousness what you are looking for is a tournament style pvp form of MMO. where you enter a pvp area with a warning that says " YOU ARE ENTERING A PVP AREA"  

try guild wars controlled pvp tournament style and you can build your character acordingly.

and finally,

NEW PLAYERS BEWARE, be smart and youl be ok.

.4 you can be shot without the NPC cops jumping in. Safe security systems are 1.0 to 0.5 if you attack another player in "high sec" systems (1.0 to 0.5) NPC cops WILL KILL YOU and kill you very fast. So all this crying about CCP letting gankers just gank anything shows you must have been traveling into low security systems where police are not around.

As for the OP. EvE is a step beyond any other MMO out. It's been upgraded constantly over the years with MUCH more soon coming on the horizon. 2009 is going to be a kick ass year for EvE.

As for the community of EvE, like EVERY MMO it has it's bad elements. Seems EVERY MMO has been developing a less mature bunch of whiney spoiled pukes. In EvE, they just make good targets. Remember, EVERYONE is on the same server in EvE, you get many good and bad people from all over the world. Just find a good corp. Being in a good corp makes EvE.

Don't be fooled, new players can become handy in PVP very early on in fleets. NO other MMO allows new players to compete in fights with Max level characters. In EvE there is no levels, only skills, and what ship you are flying at the time. From day 1 you can fit a excellent tackler ship (among other paths) and be very important to a fleet.

 Safe zones are very much safe if you just take very simple precautions. I have never been attacked in high security systems in over 2 years in game (except when my corporation was war decd, but that's different).

EvE has one of the most important elements also, Longevity. You can be certain EvE will be around for a long time and constantly improving along the way. Walking avatars are coming in a few months also.

P.S. anyone doubting the fact NPC will kill you when you attack another player in high sec, drop by Isinokka I will let you fire on me and watch CONCORD blow you to bits.