Darkfall

Originally posted by daarco

I think the title for theis thread should be something like "The Fall of Narrowminded thinking" instead. Maybe people will see there is more then one way to play a MMO. And for this thread, all i can see id fear. Plain fear. Either fear that DF wil fail...or succed and destroy the mainstream idea of what a MMO is.

 Ah yes and then there is the DF fan that thinks everyone that doesn't believe the hype has some kinda Phobia. Yes we've heard it all from the fans time and time again "When Darkfall comes out those WoW playing carbears are gonna crap all over themselves, their that scared of Df!"

  So what exactly do you think the Op and the rest of us with doubts are doing right now? Popping valuim, covering under our computer desk with loaded weapons waiting for the DF police to come pick us up and and take us to some secret aventurine reeducation camp where we will never be seen from again?

  Well I gues its your opinion can't much argue against that.

PS. I do appreciate all the fans popping in and giving good examples of why people might not be to crazy about this game due to the kind,reasonable,mature and tolerant community itself.

Originally posted by radlin

Right now just before the inevitable release of this game is where I fully expect Darkfall to be at it's highest success.  Websites across the internet are full of hype, noise, bickering, and questions about this game which makes lot of promises not yet seen in a 3D mmo.  We have to go all the way back to the years when the Darktide server of Asherons Call and to the 2D Ultima Online before Trammel was ever added to see the sortof game play that Darkfall promises.

And now, I fully expect that Darkfall is close to its highest peak in its long history.  Hype.  If there is such a thing as 'The Great White Hype", then Darkfall is certainly "The Great Dark Hype".

And don't get angry about my predictions here.  They are honest and sincere.  I DO think that once Darkfall is released to the public, that it will fail miserably and the dropoff of its success from all of its years of hype will be a very sharp decline right after it does release.

A lot of you sit on the forums for months, even years yapping on and on and on about how great this game will be and how it will finally be the holy grail of mmo games to everyone who has desired a more challenging online experience.  So, what's wrong with me making this prediction now.. one that I fully believe will happen.

Every mmo game with even a fraction of this much hype and anticipation over the past seven years that was made by such a small unheard of group of developers has failed.  And it seems that the more attention that it got, the more hype it had, the harder it failed and the more it just plain out "sucked".

With Darkfall, this long into its development, and supposedly this close to it's launch, there is simply way too many unanswered questions by anyone that isn't sitting behind the doors of the Aventurine office seeing exactly what the Aventurine people want them to see.  Nobody else has seen the game outside of those offices, and certainly  nobody from an established and reputable position has seen anything about this game.  Unless ofcourse you want to include all the hype and promises.  There is way too much hype and promises and simply not nearly enough concrete truth about this game so close to its promised launch.

Do I think Darkfall will launch?  Yep, probably.  When?  I'd sure hope it does launch soon.  This hype machine has gone on way too long already.  It's more then time this game either delivers or dies.  I think we can figure where I stand on where I think this game will land.  I honestly believe that once this game is launched to the public, it will quickly become one of the most hyped up video game failures to EVER be launched.  It will become the butt of all video game jokes in the mmo community for years to come.  You fans want my reasons?  My reasons are simply the lack of real reasons to believe in this game.

The fall of Darkfall is coming...

 

Good post.

Although there is an important aspect of this issue which need to be sorted..........define "fail" in numbers.

I said that because quite frankly people like you, thinks that the fanboys think that DF will reach the 1+ Million mark.
Which is not actually what the fans think.

For DF fans, success means firstly a game that we like, and second we expect around 200-250k at least.
For us that rapresent success.

Now if DF reach this mark, you cannot claim DF is a fail, because everyone is saying that the numbers will be around that, so no one is really expecting more than that.

The only people who is hyping DF are the trolls (not you) who suggest that that fans expect the game to beat WoW, creating a false expectation, and indirectly hyping the game itself.
The hype don't come from the DF fans........we are far more realistic.
We just want a game that we like, not a game that everybody likes.....................
Actually I tell you something,  if the game reaches the Million mark subscribers (very unlikely) then I would start to worry...............

Finally, the majority of DF fans is aware that the game might fail, simply because there are so many features that could mess everything up if not done properly.
But until we see what Aventurine has done, why doubt their work?
After all we will have a chance to try it before we buy it.
So it's a win win, my money is not going to leave my pocket until I play the game.........that's for sure.
And I believe majority of DF fans will follow my example.

You are welcome to your opinion as well as the OP. However, could you both please explain why  DarkFall will be a mess, give sources, and explain who qualifies as critically aware in  your books.

Apparently your American counterparts who visited and reviewed do not count as critically aware . Nor does the Greek media, or Italians, or independent reporters.  Do not even talk about the public at large who viewed the  Offical game play trailer . Or anyone that reads the developers updates.

What about all the fake Beta reviewers impressions  that Tasos engineered himself to trick us, all lies. The pictures of Aventurine offices are clearly doctored or staged.

I could go on, but if you aren't convinced, there isn't much more I can do.

warcry, converted vapor trolls, Yellow beards visit to Aventurine + pics,  People have seen it, played it, found it worth while publicizing in media, and given it good reviews. 

 Edit: read up on the game, give it a chance, otherwise its all pointless. 

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Originally posted by radlin
Right now just before the inevitable release of this game is where I fully expect Darkfall to be at it's highest success.  Websites across the internet are full of hype, noise, bickering, and questions about this game which makes lot of promises not yet seen in a 3D mmo.  We have to go all the way back to the years when the Darktide server of Asherons Call and to the 2D Ultima Online before Trammel was ever added to see the sortof game play that Darkfall promises.
And now, I fully expect that Darkfall is close to its highest peak in its long history.  Hype.  If there is such a thing as 'The Great White Hype", then Darkfall is certainly "The Great Dark Hype".
And don't get angry about my predictions here.  They are honest and sincere.  I DO think that once Darkfall is released to the public, that it will fail miserably and the dropoff of its success from all of its years of hype will be a very sharp decline right after it does release.
A lot of you sit on the forums for months, even years yapping on and on and on about how great this game will be and how it will finally be the holy grail of mmo games to everyone who has desired a more challenging online experience.  So, what's wrong with me making this prediction now.. one that I fully believe will happen.
Every mmo game with even a fraction of this much hype and anticipation over the past seven years that was made by such a small unheard of group of developers has failed.  And it seems that the more attention that it got, the more hype it had, the harder it failed and the more it just plain out "sucked".
With Darkfall, this long into its development, and supposedly this close to it's launch, there is simply way too many unanswered questions by anyone that isn't sitting behind the doors of the Aventurine office seeing exactly what the Aventurine people want them to see.  Nobody else has seen the game outside of those offices, and certainly  nobody from an established and reputable position has seen anything about this game.  Unless ofcourse you want to include all the hype and promises.  There is way too much hype and promises and simply not nearly enough concrete truth about this game so close to its promised launch.
Do I think Darkfall will launch?  Yep, probably.  When?  I'd sure hope it does launch soon.  This hype machine has gone on way too long already.  It's more then time this game either delivers or dies.  I think we can figure where I stand on where I think this game will land.  I honestly believe that once this game is launched to the public, it will quickly become one of the most hyped up video game failures to EVER be launched.  It will become the butt of all video game jokes in the mmo community for years to come.  You fans want my reasons?  My reasons are simply the lack of real reasons to believe in this game.
The fall of Darkfall is coming...
 

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there is one thing that you missed. as of late, most games that have been over hyped were just wow clones...so all the people from wow that wanted something a little different checked out said over hyped game (AoC, Warhammer, Tabula Rasa, etc)and realized they were just playing the same game with a difference, they didnt have their teir 234896 epic armor bs nonsense, so they went back.

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Originally posted by Drukstylz
You are welcome to your opinion as well as the OP. However, could you both please explain why  DarkFall will be a mess, give sources, and explain who qualifies as critically aware in  your books.
Apparently your American counterparts who visited and reviewed do not count as critically aware . Nor does the Greek media, or Italians, or independent reporters.  Do not even talk about the public at large who viewed the  Offical game play trailer . Or anyone that reads the developers updates.
What about all the fake Beta reviewers impressions  that Tasos engineered himself to trick us, all lies. The pictures of Aventurine offices are clearly doctored or staged.
I could go on, but if you aren't convinced, there isn't much more I can do.
warcry, converted vapor trolls, Yellow beards visit to Aventurine + pics,  People have seen it, played it, found it worth while publicizing in media, and given it good reviews. 
 Edit: read up on the game, give it a chance, otherwise its all pointless. 

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You have to take any review from Greece/Italian media with a grain of salt. There is a lot of self-padding on the back there. "Look at what we made, isnt it awesome!" doesnt make it so, how ever much pride you take in it, if it is not awesome, for example.

Gameplay trailer means nothing, anyone with time can make a fake one using a 3d program.. We need to see the actual game ;)

Plus being an europe game will make NA people have issues related to latency, important in any kind of pvp game, especially if there's twich combat involved.

Population, or lack of it, will sink this, if it ever comes out, is my opinion.

Originally posted by Drukstylz

You are welcome to your opinion as well as the OP. However, could you both please explain why  DarkFall will be a mess, give sources, and explain who qualifies as critically aware in  your books.

Apparently your American counterparts who visited and reviewed do not count as critically aware . Nor does the Greek media, or Italians, or independent reporters.  Do not even talk about the public at large who viewed the  Offical game play trailer . Or anyone that reads the developers updates.

What about all the fake Beta reviewers impressions  that Tasos engineered himself to trick us, all lies. The pictures of Aventurine offices are clearly doctored or staged.

I could go on, but if you aren't convinced, there isn't much more I can do.

warcry, converted vapor trolls, Yellow beards visit to Aventurine + pics,  People have seen it, played it, found it worth while publicizing in media, and given it good reviews. 

 Edit: read up on the game, give it a chance, otherwise its all pointless. 

wow, good post ...

Asking a critic as to why he comes to his conclusions is mostly  because "he has a feel", "he had a bad experience with game <insert game here>" , "this remembers him on game <insert game here>" or mostly no backup or proof  lol

 /QFE