Darkfall

Originally posted by daarco

Originally posted by miagisan

Originally posted by singsofdeath

Originally posted by daarco

Sometimes i wonder if developers shouldent show anything froma game before release. So many cant understand that its still work in prgress. And thats not about DF....its about all MMOs in development.

And if a anamtion is the only thing to complain about.......then we have a good game at out hands : )

 

I have to call BS on this. So many DF fanbois have pointed out to me (when I was trying to keep faith in FC and was horibly disappointed), that so close to release, nothing major will change. No mircale patch will come.

 

So if the animations are like this, you can expect them to be like this in the game when it releases. And animations are even more important to a game's -feel- than Graphics, particularly in a FPS game like this. I dunno, I will wait till I can test it, but I don't know if I would want to spend hours watching my character fight and move like -that-.

This is why i give up on DF

you are 1-2 months from launch, there is no more miracle patch, update, etc. You are seeing the game pretty much.

 

Relax!

Its a matter of taste. I laughed my ass of when i saw the running animation. But the other animations i had no problem with.

Overall the game looked very smooth. And thats what matters. And to redirect the BS acklaim, animations are not that hard to change. As long they have the basics done.

And seriously, how much did we see? Enough to change every view of the game? Dont think so. Maybe we will see a longer video soon.

 

I agree that it's a matter of taste.
 

But I think even the most ardent fan is going to have trouble being estatic about that video for a number of reasons. 

Originally posted by Shadowoak

Originally posted by rhinok

I was hoping to see something to get excited about, but that was a really disappointing video for a number of reasons:

1. It was too short
2. it didn't show much at all, other than ass, running and a much too quick shot of a battle. It doesn't show:
   • Character creation
   • Interaction with any other player characters - true pvp would have been cool to see
   • Interaction with any NPCs other than the goblin battle
   • Questing
   • Crafting
   • Looting
   • Pretty much anything....
3. The character animation while running is horrible and stiff - reminded me of a cartoon where the character's legs move, but the upper body doesn't.

The game did seem to run smoothly, but that *should* be expected in a game world with nobody else in it...

~Ripper

 

 

While I will agree with your points, you're last remark is utter rubish. It's an anti-conclusion. I believe something to be true, so every thing must adhere to my belief. It's exactly what most of the (heavy) skeptics are accusing the fanboys, which they always do themselves though, whithout wanting to admit to.

I'm confused.  What's rubbish about it?  Gameplay shouldn't be smooth in an empty world?  Should I be impressed by smooth game play in an empty world?  The world certainly seemed empty. At minimum, there weren't any other PCs in close proximity.  Show me how smoothly it runs with tons of players online or in a common area with a lot of other players nearby and I'll be impressed.  Until then, it's just window dressing...

~Ripper

Originally posted by corpusc

since when are animations not part of the whole GRAPHICS package?  yes, more genius postings.  can't seperate elments at all.

 

 

and, crafting was stated LONG ago to be barebones and functional.  with NO innovations or twists to it.

the DEVS said that.

 

so even when they TELL you that about their own game, you are somehow expecting some new innovative crafting system?

 

more genious.

 

quit while you're behind.

Instead of raving and ranting, maybe you should take the time to read and understand what other people are saying, mh?

Graphics and Animations are one package? Really? For me, Darkfalls graphics look allright, nothing seriously spectacular, but they look decent. The animations however are horrible. Package you say. All right, so everything looks horrible. *shrug*

I -SAID- that they changed that. But I also know that they still haven't bothered to change their original announcement on their OFFICIAL site. Anyone coming fresh into DF will check out the site and see some crap about highly innovative, non-repetetive and fun crafting...only to later realize that has been scrapped.

Seriously, quit your rantings, you're nothing but a fanatic unleashed.

The thing is, how can you have innovation when you can't even do the basics right.

Not only that but I wonder how stressed the servers will be when there is more than just 2 people playing in a room. Heh, I think this just shows a quality flaw and just will spiral downward.

The point of this vid was clearly nothing to do with showing the gamplay. People wanted to see someone actually sitting down playing the game, well I guess that was it.

As for the animations, imo, pretty low on the priority list with this game. If you are one of those that are all about the animation, well you're probably going to hate DF. The FPS must be kept as high as possible with as few as operations per cycle as possible. An increse in smoothness is an increase in work done, imo keep it as is until its populated and see if you have any room for change.

For me, this vid still simply isn't enough, but much of that is probably those doing the vid. English spoken reviewers with english commentary would have been the only thing to really help tbh.

interesting. looks like it could be fun, gameplay looks justlike oblivion.

but like I said on youtube, no way did they hire a single proper animator with a degree. those animations are awful, I seriously think I could do better.

Originally posted by Shadowoak

Originally posted by xzyax

Originally posted by Shadowoak

Originally posted by singsofdeath

Originally posted by daarco

Sometimes i wonder if developers shouldent show anything froma game before release. So many cant understand that its still work in prgress. And thats not about DF....its about all MMOs in development.

And if a anamtion is the only thing to complain about.......then we have a good game at out hands : )

 

I have to call BS on this. So many DF fanbois have pointed out to me (when I was trying to keep faith in FC and was horibly disappointed), that so close to release, nothing major will change. No mircale patch will come.

 

So if the animations are like this, you can expect them to be like this in the game when it releases. And animations are even more important to a game's -feel- than Graphics, particularly in a FPS game like this. I dunno, I will wait till I can test it, but I don't know if I would want to spend hours watching my character fight and move like -that-.

 

Seriously, if bad animation is DFs only flaw, I will be a very very happy man.

 

But that is just it... we won't know about anything else until we can get into Open Beta and see for ourselves.  The absence of Open Beta would seem to indicate that there ARE OTHER flaws that they are still working on with the Closed Beta Testers... as they should.

However, to blindly proclaim the absence of any other flaws when we are less than a month away from release and still have zero information on OPEN BETA... is a bit pre-mature in my opinion.

 

Ok, let's rephrase it.

 

Seriously, If bad animation is DFs only flaw, I will be a very very happy man.

 

Oh wait a minute, I didn't had to rephrase it, you just need to learn to read more carefuly.

Ahh... see that emphasis on IF made all the difference in the world for me. 

Perhaps I read your "tone" of your original statement incorrectly... wouldn't be the first time.  I was just pointing out that the vast majority of us have no idea what the rest of the gameplay is really like... since we aren't in Beta and OPEN BETA is MIA.

Without knowing that information we don't know if what we saw in that video is tolerable or not.

But yeah...

If bad animation is DFs only flaw, I will be a very very happy man.
 

A very big if. 

Originally posted by Hashbrick

The thing is, how can you have innovation when you can't even do the basics right.

Not only that but I wonder how stressed the servers will be when there is more than just 2 people playing in a room. Heh, I think this just shows a quality flaw and just will spiral downward.

What is it you are saying you would have wanted to see and the game to be?

It is quite simply beyond realistic expectations to have the gameplay they say they are going to give and wow/aoc/lotr style animation. So long as the actual combat itself is fluid does it really matter? For some like yourself I guess it does, for others the important parts are the guts, the mechanics of the gameplay not the pretties.