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Ihmotepp  11/26/08 10:56:53 AM

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Originally posted by Azrile
Originally posted by M1sf1t

 


Originally posted by altairzq
It doesn't exist, that makes it perfect. Until it releases, if it releases at all.

 

/agree


 

This.

The devil is in the details.  Games like War and AOC had some great 'themes' overall.   Pvp with a purpose.... yet they flopped because the details just sucked.  Darkfall has announced some really interesting 'themes'...but games are won or lost in the most minute of details.   If death is going to be hugely punished, then you better make sure classes are VERY balanced and you have servers nearly perfect.  Getting killed by an OP class or because of untimely lag spikes will be the end of a 'hard death' system.

All that said, I still think darkfall is 75% vaporware.  1 video, 2 actual players that can write about it?

 

Same thing with Vanguard. Great themes, poor implementation.

 
Brenelael  11/26/08 11:24:51 AM

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Because it's the last bastion of hope in a sea of over rated theme park MMOs for something that will be truly different. Now I said different not new as just about all of Darkfall's features have been in games before. The only thing new about it is it's the first time all of these features have been in one game. I have been watching Darkfall for a while now and will definitely play it if and when it releases. I for one don't expect it to be a WoW killer of even anything close as that is just unreasonable. I do expect that if it delivers on it's promises it will have a very strong niche following which is just fine. Darkfall will not be for everyone but it will give those of us that have been looking for a worthwhile PvP sandbox something to play finally.

 

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skydragonren  11/26/08 11:35:58 AM

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If Darkfall is our "Last Bastion of Hope" I think I would rather just kill myself now.

 

 
grimmbot  11/26/08 11:38:52 AM

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You would be surprised how few people care about what you have to say.

The "why" is pretty simple: At this point in the MMO timeline, Darkfall is seen as the bastion of hope for PvP players. People have always needed one -- something to look forward to when they're not satisfied with what's out there now.

AoC and WAR were the bastions of hope, but since they're out already, anyone not currently satisfied with them have only Darkfall to look towards.

It's both ironic and very sad that it's got to be Darkfall though -- it's almost certainly either vaporware, or a game in development so long that it won't push the boundaries of the genre any further than Roma Victor or A Tale in the Desert.
 

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TrikkyMakk  11/26/08 11:42:12 AM

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I think one difference is that the hype seems to be coming from people who see \ learn about the game.

Darkfall itself hasn't really been hyping themselves so much. They are actually pretty quiet only saying stuff once in a blue moon.

Also it seems like they are really taking the time to do things properly instead of stirring up a bunch of hype.

 
Brenelael  11/26/08 11:53:39 AM

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Originally posted by skydragonren

If Darkfall is our "Last Bastion of Hope" I think I would rather just kill myself now.

 

As I said it definitely won't be for everyone. If it's not for you than I wish you the best in whatever PvE over rated cloned theme park you end up playing. I know I've tried them all and they are all the same damn game with different pretty blinking lights. PvP is an absolute joke in most of them if they have PvP at all. Darkfall will fill a niche that has been sadly overlooked by all mainstream developers. They all seem to be after that shiny brass ring that Blizzard has dangled out in front of them. Sooner or later they will realize that no matter how much they try it will always be just out of their reach. Until that time we will only see rehashed theme parks that have 0% originality to them. Darkfall is the only thing on the horizon that could possibly break out of this dismal pattern that the MMO industry seems to be stuck in.

 

Edit: Oh and just so you know I too have my doubts about Darkfall. I'm just willing to give it a chance as unlike many on here I won't prejudge a game I've never even played. I'm not trying to say that Darkfall will be the greatest PvP game ever as I just don't know that and neither does anyone else here that hasen't played the game yet. I'm just willing to give them the chance to succeed or fail with their game and not make sweeping judgements about a game that I've never played.

 

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Ihmotepp  11/26/08 12:13:02 PM

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Originally posted by Brenelael
Originally posted by skydragonren

If Darkfall is our "Last Bastion of Hope" I think I would rather just kill myself now.

 

As I said it definitely won't be for everyone. If it's not for you than I wish you the best in whatever PvE over rated cloned theme park you end up playing. I know I've tried them all and they are all the same damn game with different pretty blinking lights. PvP is an absolute joke in most of them if they have PvP at all. Darkfall will fill a niche that has been sadly overlooked by all mainstream developers. They all seem to be after that shiny brass ring that Blizzard has dangled out in front of them. Sooner or later they will realize that no matter how much they try it will always be just out of their reach. Until that time we will only see rehashed theme parks that have 0% originality to them. Darkfall is the only thing on the horizon that could possibly break out of this dismal pattern that the MMO industry seems to be stuck in.

 

Edit: Oh and just so you know I too have my doubts about Darkfall. I'm just willing to give it a chance as unlike many on here I won't prejudge a game I've never even played. I'm not trying to say that Darkfall will be the greatest PvP game ever as I just don't know that and neither does anyone else here that hasen't played the game yet. I'm just willing to give them the chance to succeed or fail with their game and not make sweeping judgements about a game that I've never played.

 

Bren

 

So since you joined MMORPG.com in '06 you've never stated an opinion about a game that wasn't released yet?

 
Ngeldu5t  11/26/08 1:25:03 PM

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Awaiting for a skill base game with consequences.

There's enough carebear solo mmo instant gratification games on the market and we need a niche  MMO with a harsh world and meaningful PvP.I don`t need them to reinvent the wheel but simply give us a dynamic world.

I have hope that they will remain true to their vision if /when the game is released.

 
Random_mage  11/26/08 1:44:50 PM

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Originally posted by rejad

I think the naesayers balance out the fanboys rather nicely on this issue, actually.  So I wouldn't go so far as to say that everyone has confidence in Darkfall.

There are more people who are skeptical of darkfall that "trolls" and more people like the other quote who have not even played the game.. yet have SOO Much faith based on dev promises.

 

and

Originally posted by Ravanos

because its different, its not trying to be a dumbed down peice of crap like WoW like so many other games out there. from everything we have heard its the opposite of WoW, a tough gritty world full of people who will kill you in an instant if you aren't careful. where there is a death penalty if you do something stupid or aren't paying close attention.

where guild fight over towns and resources and not on a forum about "who has the more uber lootz or who got the World wide first on Epic mob Z"

thats why many people are hyped about this game, also because many WOW players suck at games so they wont be able to hack it at all in darkfall.

thats why some are excited about it.
 

Glad to see you have played the game and are having fun..

Oh.. what is that? you haven't played it?? And.. You know all of these things how?? Cause the DEvs said.. just like they said clan beta in 2005? Or possible betas every year for the past 5 years?  Is that how?? ..

 

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joeyboots  11/26/08 3:09:18 PM