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GrayGhost79  11/28/08 12:02:44 PM

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Originally posted by enLS
Originally posted by joelfilho
enLS, your avatar remembers me of "Anger Manegement" movie.

And by that I can understand why you act like this on these forums ;)

I think you should try and figure out what makes some of these deluded fanboys tick....  you'd get some much more interesting material.

 

 

I can help out here, I am a fanboy of the game. Here's what makes me tick. I like the concepts behind DarkFall, I like the overall graphics of DarkFall. I think DarkFall will be a game I like. I do not know these things at this time, this is my opinion based on the information I have at this time. Having the option to try before I buy gives me less cause for concern than most other MMO's that have come out.

If it fails or never launches oh well it's just a game. I understand there is a chance still the game will not launch in 2008 or ever at all. I understand there's a chance I won't even like the game. Every other MMO in development is in the same boat.

I am sorry I don't value your opinion on things, to me it just doesn't hold weight. Most of what you say and ,some of the others that do not seem to like DarkFall, are in direct contradiction to facts I have access to. So my opinions are based on the facts I have access to at this time. Then there is the issue of what constitutes as fact and who is credible, I just view Tasos and gaming media and Aventurine to be more crebidble than you because 1) I have no clue who you are, your not my friend or family member, your some random person I saw on the net.  2) They have a lot backing up what they have been saying so far where as you and others do not.

So..... what makes you tick?

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arkady09  11/28/08 12:08:56 PM

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Here is how I see this issue.  I dont care about graphics nor animations.  The animations can be fixed at a later date.  I want good fast furious gameplay.  If the limited graphics mean great performance in large scale PVP then BRING IT ON!

shadenis  11/28/08 1:17:20 PM

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Originally posted by arkady09

Here is how I see this issue.  I dont care about graphics nor animations.  The animations can be fixed at a later date.  I want good fast furious gameplay.  If the limited graphics mean great performance in large scale PVP then BRING IT ON!

 

Ahhh ,another one !

 

Well!  It not only depends on graphics, it also depends on coding /programming. See, you can have graphics below WOW but if your engine sucks or the coding sucks with full of bugs , then you also can't have 100 people on a screen, you probably will even lag when there are 10 on a screen.  So heres hoping for a good working engine that is well coded. That's all i say about that.

Good examples: Dark and light, Anarchy online  , uhmm... age of conan, vanguard ( however VG and AOC have higher graphics although vanguard was terrible coded and was full of bugs and was the main reason why it had so much lag, it simly had a terrible coding/prgramming for there engine)  and perhaps some few more.

 

Now about the animations.  If you have clunky animations, how can you have fast furious game play?

 

Impressive!  Get real ! Seriously.  Think outside the line of a fanboy ,jeez.

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DarthRaiden  11/28/08 1:23:23 PM

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Originally posted by shadenis
Originally posted by arkady09

Here is how I see this issue.  I dont care about graphics nor animations.  The animations can be fixed at a later date.  I want good fast furious gameplay.  If the limited graphics mean great performance in large scale PVP then BRING IT ON!

 

Ahhh ,another one !

 

Well!  It not only depends on graphics, it also depends on coding /programming. See, you can have graphics below WOW but if your engine sucks or the coding sucks with full of bugs , then you also can't have 100 people on a screen, you probably will even lag when there are 10 on a screen.  So heres hoping for a good working engine that is well coded. That's all i say about that.

Good examples: Dark and light, Anarchy online  , uhmm... age of conan, vanguard ( however VG and AOC have higher graphics although vanguard was terrible coded and was full of bugs and was the main reason why it had so much lag, it simly had a terrible coding/prgramming for there engine)  and perhaps some few more.

 

Now about the animations.  If you have clunky animations, how can you have fast furious game play?

 

Impressive!  Get real ! Seriously.  Think outside the line of a fanboy ,jeez.

 

the gameplay seem me furious, check the gameplay vid ...

We can't make assumption how bad the code is -you not  an exception of this.

Animations didn't interupted the gameplay...gameplay still fluid..some may be annoying to the eye of some people ..according to personal taste..nothing gamebreaking from what is shown...

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TheHoweller  11/28/08 1:23:53 PM

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Grinding is the worst idea ever integrated into a game...

I would much rather have fun.

Originally posted by shadenis

Now about the animations.  If you have clunky animations, how can you have fast furious game play?

Impressive! Get real ! Seriously. Think outside the line of a fanboy ,jeez.

arkady had a good point, if the graphics and animations are lacking, where gameplay isn't.  The game will be well worth our time.

What you've failed to notice, shadenis, is that Darkfall's animations are anything but "clunky" when it comes to combat.  Watch the fight again, you'll easily see that the pace is quick.  She may have chicken thighs, but she swings the sword quickly.  Thus, your point isn't backed by anything but dramatic imagination.

 

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shadenis  11/28/08 1:27:33 PM

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Originally posted by DarthRaiden
Originally posted by shadenis
Originally posted by arkady09

Here is how I see this issue.  I dont care about graphics nor animations.  The animations can be fixed at a later date.  I want good fast furious gameplay.  If the limited graphics mean great performance in large scale PVP then BRING IT ON!

 

Ahhh ,another one !

 

Well!  It not only depends on graphics, it also depends on coding /programming. See, you can have graphics below WOW but if your engine sucks or the coding sucks with full of bugs , then you also can't have 100 people on a screen, you probably will even lag when there are 10 on a screen.  So heres hoping for a good working engine that is well coded. That's all i say about that.

Good examples: Dark and light, Anarchy online  , uhmm... age of conan, vanguard ( however VG and AOC have higher graphics although vanguard was terrible coded and was full of bugs and was the main reason why it had so much lag, it simly had a terrible coding/prgramming for there engine)  and perhaps some few more.

 

Now about the animations.  If you have clunky animations, how can you have fast furious game play?

 

Impressive!  Get real ! Seriously.  Think outside the line of a fanboy ,jeez.

 

the gameplay seem me furious, check the gameplay vid ...

We can't make assumption how bad the code is -you not  an exception of this.

 

That's your opinion,no problem but i have a different one . When i am playing my character for the whole time in DFO, i would like to see more then the legs moving. Like the butt moving and arms and of course the body. Isn't hard to do. We don't need hair moving or motion capture animations, what we do need , is a better fluid animated body with running and combat swing/directions. 

 

I checked the game play video. Very short ( or is there a longer video? )  and i will not say the game is good , i only say , i would like to test it and see it for myself.  

 

Like i said in  my previous thread. Server and code need to be done well, if not, there won't be hundreds on the field. Based on the graphics and that adventurine is using a house engine. I guess 100 players on the field would be a good start and a honest guess of what will be at launch ( which i expect in Q1/Q2 , hopefully because they also need server tests etc. in my opinion and experience with previous beta tests)

 

Let me give you some facts of how hundreds on the field + decent graphics but also good animations work

If  you played Dark age of camelot, then i think that says enough

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DarthRaiden  11/28/08 1:36:56 PM

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Originally posted by shadenis

 

That's your opinion,no problem but i have a different one . When i am playing my character for the whole time in DFO, i would like to see more then the legs moving. Like the butt moving and arms and of course the body. Isn't hard to do. We don't need hair moving or motion capture animations, what we do need , is a better fluid animated body with running and combat swing/directions. 

 Yes, annoying , but not gamebreaking IMO

I checked the game play video. Very short ( or is there a longer video? )  and i will not say the game is good , i only say , i would like to test it and see it for myself.  

was refereing to the August gameplay trailer

17 min of footage

 www.darkfallonline.eu/darkfall-bilder/v/Videos/gameplay-trailer.jpg.html

Like i said in  my previous thread. Server and code need to be done well, if not, there won't be hundreds on the field. Based on the graphics and that adventurine is using a house engine. I guess 100 players on the field would be a good start and a honest guess of what will be at launch ( which i expect in Q1/Q2 , hopefully because they also need server tests etc. in my opinion and experience with previous beta tests)

 

Let me give you some facts of how hundreds on the field + decent graphics but also good animations work

If  you played Dark age of camelot, then i think that says enough

Have heard good things about but never played myself so can't verify

 

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Hhussk  11/28/08 1:40:48 PM

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I'm still not sure why people are going to such extreme lengths to speak out against this game.

 

Every Darkfall fan who has commented has basically said if it's good, they'll play it, and if not, they'll let it go. But every Darkfall hater has spent their efforts calling it vaporware and now speaking against the graphics.

It's as if your goal is to bring the game down.

 

Me personally. If Darkfall comes out, I'll give it a try. I'm hoping the gameplay and concepts are as good as I've