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tazarconan 11/28/08 10:19:00 AM
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I bought and played aoc with abarbarian till 37 lvl. i mostly didnt renew the subcripition due to the reason i got tired of farming mobs in order to lvl. I did my share of quests but aside quests i had to slay hundrends of mobs also. I liked and aproved the manual aproach of combat cause the wow -automated type is old and boring at least for my taste and it doesnt require and award real skills. Using the manual way thoguh the way the did , too many keys for some combos started to get me tired and i consider my self enduring player in melee combat games oblivion ,morrowind, severance e.t.c. Perhaps a solution is to double or triple the xp granted for kiling mobs and quests so the player wont get tired so much. Bugs: From launch till1 month after i never encountered lagg or bugs and consider i was at the game from launch with all players at the same starting city. Strarting to believe the bugs story is a fairy tale or a good try from antagonists 's agents to spoil the reputation of aoc ,or guys that just had not very up to date computer systems. Community: Was the same like every mmo rpg in launch most ppl were tyring to explore the game ,menaing they didnt had much time to party up ,chat try pvp side e.t.c. Despice that i made parties with guildies and pugs . Real probs? I rarely saw anyone sayign about the real issues . What are they? From my part 2 concerning the combat system. 1. Blocking sucks greately as they made the game. Absolutely no use in pvp . No point to try to block 1 attack with 2 seconds delay when the oponent just spams attacks and combos without tiring, Either copy -paste oblivion's or mount and blade parrty / block system or make it automated ( i hope not). 2.Decrease the running speed when in combat so the serious ppl with a taste wont lauch when they see 2 guys jumping and runing mindlesely like its a benny hill SHOWmovie. Good suggestion? ------> gOTHIC 1,2,3 Make every swing also to decrease drastically the stamina so u wont see attack spams and it will increase the tactical factor greately. I was sad cause from all threads and real problems aoc had almost none talked about them so the devs may care to improve them/ fix them and all is aw was mindless complains about class balances witch i m sure there are but here we are talking about the fundamental base of combat .. The combat itself, bugs, lagg ( never saw it) and im in greece whichinternet's quality it sucks greately. Try make constructive critisism guys and 3exactly where it needs improved . On the bone |
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drag9999 11/28/08 10:48:04 AM
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I don't think there's anything wrong with the combat system actually. The main problem is this game was called dead by so many people that it'll probably never have a big community. I have reached level 21 so far without having to grind one mob. I'm pretty sure there were updates that added quests and stuff. I have not found anything wrong with this game despite it being quite empty on my server (Hyperborea). |
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FischerBlack 11/28/08 10:52:55 AM
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Originally posted by drag9999 You have just come to the end of what is by far the best content in the game. As you push forward you will slowly have to start grinding to fill in the quest gaps. Hopefully what they have added will allow to avoid mob grinding if you choose, but they would have had to added a damn lot of quests. |
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Scaredgirl 11/28/08 11:28:54 AM
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Joined: 11/18/08 |
Originally posted by tazarconan
You my friend have missed many quests. Even at launch it was possible to reach about level 54 without doing almost any grinding. I know because I did it many times. Now they have added even more content so getting to about level 65 with little or no grind shouldn't be a problem. After level 65 you need to start grinding and at levels 70-79 you will be doing a LOT of grinding. If grinding was your only problem with AoC then you might consider resubscribing. I have to warn you though, you have only played to level 37 and have not seen the higher levels. Most people like the lower levels and hate higher levels. You will probably grow to dislike AoC like 85-90% of gamers who tried it have. You have been warned. If you do decide to resubscribe, once you hit level 38 you should go do quests in Field of the Dead which is the best zone imo. But after that it's all downhill. Where AoC needs improving? Oh, there are SO many things.. but the main issue was lack of FUN once you hit level 80. People here talk about how FC has fixed most of the bugs and how the client is much more stable now. I don't care. These things were not a problem for me in the first place. I can handle a few bugs if the game is FUN. AoC wasn't fun so I quit. Simple as that. |
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Tjommis 11/28/08 11:31:58 AM
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Joined: 10/12/08 |
Originally posted by FischerBlack You have just come to the end of what is by far the best content in the game. As you push forward you will slowly have to start grinding to fill in the quest gaps. Hopefully what they have added will allow to avoid mob grinding if you choose, but they would have had to added a damn lot of quests.
This is old and outdated information, FisherBlack, as most leveling gaps have been filled. One of the biggest ones, at lvls 55-60 was just filled with Ymir's pass. The only real levelling gap that cannot be filled with questing is from lvls 75 and outwards. That is if you do not do group questing. With group questing there hardly is any gaps at all. |
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tazarconan 11/28/08 12:10:17 PM
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Originally posted by drag9999
Feel free my friend to explain me why to waste 2 secs to try perform a block with your sheild while in these 2 seconds you could a simple attack+1 combo. What are the benefits? p.s. If u ever play oblivion and see the recoil effect on your opponent if u block his attack u ll understand whats the problem with aoc's combats. recoil effect upon blocking= your opponent cant do a shit for 2-3 secs if u block him nicely. BTW why can t u raise your shield and move at same time? =] |
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tazarconan 11/28/08 12:15:13 PM
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Originally posted by Scaredgirl
You my friend have missed many quests. Even at launch it was possible to reach about level 54 without doing almost any grinding. I know because I did it many times. Now they have added even more content so getting to about level 65 with little or no grind shouldn't be a problem. After level 65 you need to start grinding and at levels 70-79 you will be doing a LOT of grinding. If grinding was your only problem with AoC then you might consider resubscribing. I have to warn you though, you have only played to level 37 and have not seen the higher levels. Most people like the lower levels and hate higher levels. You will probably grow to dislike AoC like 85-90% of gamers who tried it have. You have been warned. If you do decide to resubscribe, once you hit level 38 you should go do quests in Field of the Dead which is the best zone imo. But after that it's all downhill. Where AoC needs improving? Oh, there are SO many things.. but the main issue was lack of FUN once you hit level 80. People here talk about how FC has fixed most of the bugs and how the client is much more stable now. I don't care. These things were not a problem for me in the first place. I can handle a few bugs if the game is FUN. AoC wasn't fun so I quit. Simple as that.
Thanks for the crafication Scaredgirl. I rember though sometimes in 1st month i had troubles at getting quest afetr 30 lvl and /or most quests were just kill 10 bears or kill 15 thiefs, or gather 15 ears from burglars which also heh requires to slay. e.t.c. which maybe a quest yes, but still u need to farm mobs . I heard too from afellow mate that yes in higher lvls the farming is becoming more and more present. As i said none will disagree if they double or triple the xp from kiiling mobs and quests. Unless the chinese farmers will worry though ;P
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Tjommis 11/28/08 12:16:15 PM
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Originally posted by tazarconan
Feel free my friend to explain me why to waste 2 secs to try perform a block with your sheild while in these 2 seconds you could a simple attack+1 combo. What are the benefits? p.s. If u ever play oblivion and see the recoil effect on your opponent if u block his attack u ll understand whats the problem with aoc's combats. recoil effect upon blocking= your opponent cant do a shit for 2-3 secs if u block him nicely. BTW why can t u raise your shield and move at same time? =]
I can answer you why blocking can be useful. What I regard as my main is a lvl 80 Conqueror. In group combat I do quite a lot of damage and by that I can sometimes steal aggro from the guardian (This is sometimes intentionally) Since I'm DPS specked and quite squishy, I can't hold that aggro for very long, so what I do is block until the main tank can grab back the aggro. This can often be the success recipe for a hard boss fight, and it's very useful.
Edit: Ah, those tyops =) |
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tazarconan 11/28/08 7:32:11 PM
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