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Die_Scream  11/28/08 2:37:50 PM

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"I don''t care! I''m gonna eat somebody."

Is this true?

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darwa  11/28/08 2:47:09 PM

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Yes.

Brenelael  11/28/08 8:19:30 PM

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Well yes and no. Everyone is a captain of their own ship but that doesn't mean that they are actually captain in rank. Also Jack Emmert is the head cheese over at Cyrptic but the Executive Producer for STO is Craig Zinkievich. Craig is basically in charge of the project but Jack can step in and override his decisions if he feels it's needed (The general feel is that he hasn't done this a whole lot so far however). So like I said the answer to your questions are yes and no to both.

 

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Rejor  11/28/08 9:16:53 PM

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honestly, i wish this wasn't true. I liked the way it was going to be when the old studio had the rights. Where everyone is a member of the crew, not just a captain of a ship. I was looking forward to the roleplay of it, but I guess that has gone by the wayside.

 

Hopefully that'll change in the future, but until then I don't see myself buying this game.

The doll would surely say, "I do not want to be human!" although her master wants her to be even more.

Brenelael  11/28/08 9:34:10 PM

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Originally posted by Rejor

honestly, i wish this wasn't true. I liked the way it was going to be when the old studio had the rights. Where everyone is a member of the crew, not just a captain of a ship. I was looking forward to the roleplay of it, but I guess that has gone by the wayside.

 

Hopefully that'll change in the future, but until then I don't see myself buying this game.

Emmert and Zinkievich have not ruled out the possibility of multi-crewed ships. They have stated that they won't be there for launch but it is something that they are seriously discussing and may be put in at some later date. I personally think the game will be good either way and will still provide much in the way of role playing and interaction with others regularly. I never was a big fan of PE's vision for Trek. The multi-crew part was probably the only redeeming quality their version had. The rest of it sounded like it was going to blow chunks seriously. I for one am so much happier that a real development studio with a decent track record has this IP now. This game went from a 10% chance of a successful Star Trek MMO under PE to about a 90% chance of success the day Cryptic took over.

 

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Die_Scream  11/30/08 3:58:37 AM

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"I don''t care! I''m gonna eat somebody."

Originally posted by Brenelael
Originally posted by Rejor

honestly, i wish this wasn't true. I liked the way it was going to be when the old studio had the rights. Where everyone is a member of the crew, not just a captain of a ship. I was looking forward to the roleplay of it, but I guess that has gone by the wayside.

 

Hopefully that'll change in the future, but until then I don't see myself buying this game.

Emmert and Zinkievich have not ruled out the possibility of multi-crewed ships. They have stated that they won't be there for launch but it is something that they are seriously discussing and may be put in at some later date. I personally think the game will be good either way and will still provide much in the way of role playing and interaction with others regularly. I never was a big fan of PE's vision for Trek. The multi-crew part was probably the only redeeming quality their version had. The rest of it sounded like it was going to blow chunks seriously. I for one am so much happier that a real development studio with a decent track record has this IP now. This game went from a 10% chance of a successful Star Trek MMO under PE to about a 90% chance of success the day Cryptic took over.

 

Bren

I hate most everything Emmert did to CoH, starting with the ham-fisted ED. I don't like him, nor do I trust him.

Though I'm a huge trek fan, this game I'll pass on given the evryone is a Captain thing + Emmert anywhere near it.

I hope to see a decent single-player trek game eventually. God I'd love to see one in the mold of Oblivion's freedom.

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Brenelael  11/30/08 10:27:03 AM

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Well I can understand the way you feel as I know a lot of people got somewhat burnt by the changes Emmert did to CoH. I wouldn't give up on STO just yet however as this is NOT CoH. The way the game is shaping up seems to be in the right direction and the captain thing is actually a very small part of the overall game. The main difference being that Emmert was the Executive Producer of CoH and he isn't for STO. He may be the CEO of Cryptic but he's not the EP of STO. Craig Zinkievich is and he seems to be making the right decisions to get out a great Star Trek experience in as short amount of time as possible. Now I'm not asking you to forgive Jack Emmert for his past mistakes but to condemn a game that he is taking a very stand offish approach to is only going to hurt you in the long run as this is the only chance Star Trek has as an MMO. Perhaps the last chance Star Trek has as a game period. All I'm saying is maybe you need to wait until the game releases and try it before you decide your not going to like it based on prejudice.

 

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nennafir  11/30/08 6:23:03 PM

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Originally posted by Die_Scream

I hate most everything Emmert did to CoH, starting with the ham-fisted ED. I don't like him, nor do I trust him.

Though I'm a huge trek fan, this game I'll pass on given the evryone is a Captain thing + Emmert anywhere near it.

I hope to see a decent single-player trek game eventually. God I'd love to see one in the mold of Oblivion's freedom.


 

Buff-nerf cycles are part of MMOs.  ED really was pretty much par for the course.  If it really angered you so much that you are still talking about it more than 3 years later, I honestly wonder if MMOs are for you.

I agree with Brenelael about Cryptic taking it over from Perepetual.  I once beta tested one of PE's (now canned) MMOs.  It was complete amateur-ville.  Absolutely hopeless.  It was readily aparent that they had no ****ing clue, and were definitely not ready for prime time.  Cryptic will at least make an actual game, rather than a tech demo, which is all I think PE could ever have managed.

I do hope that they reconsider their position of "every person a captain" though.  Obviously, much of the interaction in Star Trek is on one ship, crew-to-crew, and it would be a shame for that never to see the light of day in this game.

 
Sketch5  11/30/08 6:42:51 PM

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If anyone can come up with a way to make player crews work, then please share.

Until then, this is the best system we have and it looks like a good game.

 
Aethios  11/30/08 6:50:19 PM