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madtheblind  11/27/08 9:30:20 AM

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hi all, never posted on forums before ,but something really bugged me yesterday . I was questing in Moria and saw a fellow player ( shadowbourn ) fighting a mob. As i thought he could use a hand i waded in and kick the mobs butt. Then in IMS came a massage from the player i helped....was it ty m8?..cheers friend?...no it was this...."before you go charging in to help why dont you take the time out to ask i its needed?"..Asking what i did wrong i got the reply that i was stealing his xp???...Now if that was the case he couldve just said ty but i dont need help..I politely told him what i thought of his manners :P, so then he tells me im reporting you m8 and your in my ignore list (ill miss him:(..lol)..so in OOC i told him he was the most ungrateful rudest player ive ever met..this was met with no less than 12 other players telling me he has been rude to them for helping too? and lecturing them on respect??hmmmm..so if you ever see that mentionedplayer dont help him let him die and pay him the respect he so rightly has earned.BTW his comments have only stregthened my beliefs ,that 99.9% of players of lotro are great and funny and play to enjoy not to become smeagal..

 
Taniquetil  11/27/08 9:39:27 AM

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Even a broken watch is right twice a day.

This has been a bit of debate on Lotro for a while , he shouldn't have been rude about it's not the norm imo.However as far as I know he would lose some XP as he has had assistance with the mob.Even if he reports you I can't see anything coming of it , you'd have to be harrassing him for that.

The player in question should just go on your ignore list and if you see him again just let him die lol . sounds like a pratt anyhow.

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Majestico  11/27/08 9:49:47 AM

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''Hey now!'' - the immortal, cheesy catch-phrase of Hank Kingsly from The Larry Sanders Show.

Sadly, this is an inditement of life in general.  No matter how good an online community is, you are always going to get rude and unpleasent people.  It's a shame, but I doubt that things will change in our lifetime.

However, this has prompted me to think of another question, and so I'll make a post for it, so as not to de-rail this one.

If it helps, you can try out the role-play specific European server called Laurelin, which I have found to have a more pleasent community.  In particular you could check out our kin; Order of the Free Souls, which promotes a close-knit, family-orientated feeling, with kin mates always willing to help out others.  My main toon is called Turkonan by the way, just in case you want to drop by and send me a tell.

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Papadam  11/27/08 10:53:42 AM

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"I struggle to find the words that negate my meaning. I fail to comprehend what message is given"

Well its pretty anoying when someone "helps" you when you clearly dont need any help and you just loose xp from it but his behavior is still not ok and was very rude.

But I think its far worse to name and shame people in OOC or in this forum...

 
Taniquetil  11/27/08 10:56:00 AM

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Even a broken watch is right twice a day.

I can vouch for EU Laurelin , best server out there :)

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karat76  11/27/08 10:58:59 AM

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Greatest threat to society is letting casualties of puberty reproduce.

Well unfortunately some people have not been raised very well.

 
Sovrath  11/27/08 11:03:12 AM

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Originally posted by Papadam

Well its pretty anoying when someone "helps" you when you clearly dont need any help and you just loose xp from it but his behavior is still not ok and was very rude.

But I think its far worse to name and shame people in OOC or in this forum...

 

You know what? It's 1 or 2 mobs, the difference in xp loss is minimal to nil when you consider that this entire game oozes  xp. And quite frankly, I've done the same thing in Moria several times when I've seen that someone obviously needed help and they've thanked me.

I have also had an add or two "too much" and have had people do the same. All the person had to do was say "thanks, but I really didn't need the help, but I appreciate the gesture".

People have no manners anymore.

OP, you can help me whenever you want, I appreciate there are people like you still out there. Don't lose heart.

 
Darkjinxter  11/27/08 11:06:57 AM

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I'm on EU Laurelin and I've never encountered anything quite as rude as that. Fair enough he'd lose a wee bit of XP but the mines are replete with XP. This Shadowbourn character is a downright cad for treating you like that.

You fail to mention which server you are on OP. If it's Laurelin (which I doubt) I'll be having words with the ungrateful sod should I see him.

 
thorwood  11/27/08 11:19:29 AM

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I had a similar incident when I was new to the game and level 40. I had no idea that hitting another player's mob halved their xp.  They were quite rude about it.  Then the same rude player deliberately jumped in and killed the named mob I needed for a quest and I had just spent 5 minutes clearing the nearby mobs.

On the other hand, in Moria, I have had numerous players halve my xp by hitting a mob that had next to no hitpoints left while I had nearly full hitpoints.  It was even more frustrating on my guardian who has low dps and takes a long time to kill a mob.  Given Moria is for experienced players (L50+) who know this halved xp, it was quite annoying. 

Things seem to have settled down  now that players have spread out into other areas in Moria.

 
Larry2298  11/27/08 11:34:59 AM

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I remember the similar threads in the forum long time ago. 

First, we do not know the motive to help the other players. But the debate ended up with results.  

1. Without communication in advance to attack the other player's target, especially when the other player do not have any difficulty to kill his/her target, if you attacked the target, it don't matter what you call it, your help is not necessary. 

2. If you seen the other player almost get killed by his/her target, and you have no time to