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Blessings,

While I believe in Christ, I have studied this story extensively, I find the evidence for this one dubious. The problem is the document referenced probably dates AFTER Christ so it may just be a writing done by Buddhist converts who were making up some literature to fit into their world view.

There is much better evidence that Christ is Lord.

L'Shana Tova!

EDIT: Two much better apologetics sites for ya:

www.tektonics.org/

www.theology.edu/

Aye - I was not suggesting this was evidense. Scripture is enough to undoubtfully declare that Yeshua is the foretold Messiah, yet that was not the point of this discussion.

Since you have studied this story extensively, could you share more infomation than what you've already listed?

Blessings,

God does not exist.

All religions are fairy tails spun by aristocracy to control the masses.

Christ was a carpenter/anarchist who led a bunch of rejects into creating religions based on his beliefs.

Never did he perform a miracle. Never was he the son of god [sic - no caps].

Mary was a woman who had an extra-marital affair and blamed the pregnancy on god [god].

You've heard all this before, or maybe you haven't seeing as how you live in the Bible Belt.

Originally posted by kedoremos

God does not exist.

All religions are fairy tails spun by aristocracy to control the masses.

Christ was a carpenter/anarchist who led a bunch of rejects into creating religions based on his beliefs.

Never did he perform a miracle. Never was he the son of god [sic - no caps].

Mary was a woman who had an extra-marital affair and blamed the pregnancy on god [god].

 You've heard all this before, or maybe you haven't seeing as how you live in the Bible Belt.

And your evidence for this is...?

But while we're on the subject of Buddha, did you know there's a young boy in Nepal who is believed by many to be the reincarnation of Buddha?  And the kid is milking it for all it's worth too.  He probably could get rich off of it, but my guess is he's taken a vow of poverty.  Because if he didn't it would pretty much destroy the perception.

Originally posted by kedoremos

God does not exist.

All religions are fairy tails spun by aristocracy to control the masses.

Christ was a carpenter/anarchist who led a bunch of rejects into creating religions based on his beliefs.

Never did he perform a miracle. Never was he the son of god [sic - no caps].

Mary was a woman who had an extra-marital affair and blamed the pregnancy on god [god].

 

You've heard all this before, or maybe you haven't seeing as how you live in the Bible Belt.

wow. so you were actually there huh? That must be impressive. So Jesus was only a carpenter and anarchist who led a bunch of rejects into creating a religion that now spans the entire globe and is believed (since the death and resurrection of Christ)  by BILLIONs of people; both great and small.

So you believe that Roman citizens who were Christians got hooked on a fairy tale by a "bunch of rejects" to the point that even though they were murdered en masse by Nero they still believed to the very end? To the ones who were impaled on a pole and lit on fire while still alive so that Nero could illuminate his evening banquets...they were engrossed by a Charismatic anarchist?

Jesus said to give to Ceaser what is Ceaser and give to God what is God's.  Christ also said to respect your leaders no matter how corrupt they are because God had willed them into office for whatever mysterious purpose and if these leaders sin, God will deal with them in His way...not through our revenge. These are not the words of an anarchist to me.

Trust me....your arguments are severly flawed but I respect your faith on not believing in the obvious ;)

Originally posted by Enigma

Originally posted by kedoremos

God does not exist.

All religions are fairy tails spun by aristocracy to control the masses.

Christ was a carpenter/anarchist who led a bunch of rejects into creating religions based on his beliefs.

Never did he perform a miracle. Never was he the son of god [sic - no caps].

Mary was a woman who had an extra-marital affair and blamed the pregnancy on god [god].

 

You've heard all this before, or maybe you haven't seeing as how you live in the Bible Belt.

 

wow. so you were actually there huh? That must be impressive. So Jesus was only a carpenter and anarchist who led a bunch of rejects into creating a religion that now spans the entire globe and is believed (since the death and resurrection of Christ)  by BILLIONs of people; both great and small.

So you believe that Roman citizens who were Christians got hooked on a fairy tale by a "bunch of rejects" to the point that even though they were murdered en masse by Nero they still believed to the very end? To the ones who were impaled on a pole and lit on fire while still alive so that Nero could illuminate his evening banquets...they were engrossed by a Charismatic anarchist?

Jesus said to give to Ceaser what is Ceaser and give to God what is God's.  Christ also said to respect your leaders no matter how corrupt they are because God had willed them into office for whatever mysterious purpose and if these leaders sin, God will deal with them in His way...not through our revenge. These are not the words of an anarchist to me.

Trust me....your arguments are severly flawed but I respect your faith on not believing in the obvious ;)

Whoa whoa whoa whoa...

All I got to say is...Scripture. Book chapter and verse! 

Originally posted by Finwe

Originally posted by Enigma

Originally posted by kedoremos

God does not exist.

All religions are fairy tails spun by aristocracy to control the masses.

Christ was a carpenter/anarchist who led a bunch of rejects into creating religions based on his beliefs.

Never did he perform a miracle. Never was he the son of god [sic - no caps].

Mary was a woman who had an extra-marital affair and blamed the pregnancy on god [god].

 

You've heard all this before, or maybe you haven't seeing as how you live in the Bible Belt.

 

wow. so you were actually there huh? That must be impressive. So Jesus was only a carpenter and anarchist who led a bunch of rejects into creating a religion that now spans the entire globe and is believed (since the death and resurrection of Christ)  by BILLIONs of people; both great and small.

So you believe that Roman citizens who were Christians got hooked on a fairy tale by a "bunch of rejects" to the point that even though they were murdered en masse by Nero they still believed to the very end? To the ones who were impaled on a pole and lit on fire while still alive so that Nero could illuminate his evening banquets...they were engrossed by a Charismatic anarchist?

Jesus said to give to Ceaser what is Ceaser and give to God what is God's.  Christ also said to respect your leaders no matter how corrupt they are because God had willed them into office for whatever mysterious purpose and if these leaders sin, God will deal with them in His way...not through our revenge. These are not the words of an anarchist to me.

Trust me....your arguments are severly flawed but I respect your faith on not believing in the obvious ;)

 

Whoa whoa whoa whoa...

All I got to say is...Scripture. Book chapter and verse! 

I find it ironic that the great counter-argument to theism has always been that religion is a fabricated tool used to control the masses, yet here we have a theist openly acknowledging such sentiment dating all the way back to Christ.

Perhaps Christ simply wanted to be perfectly matyred, forgiving his enemies...