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Scalebane  12/02/08 11:38:45 AM

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Originally posted by Daffid011
Originally posted by Scalebane

 Amazing to read people freaking out over this, not sure if they did it first but blizzard came out witha  TCG for WoW, its been doing really good and it has the loot card stuff, some people have gotten upset because they want the items and don't want to buy the cards but people buy them like crazy, i've even bought some, not just for the loot cards but to actually play it on the side.  (used to play MTG alot hehe)

I don't see the big deal, even the WoW loot cards are just cosmetic or fun stuff, they do give mounts through them but nothing that would alter the game in any way...guess just becuase its SOE people will turn it into more than what it is.

Blizzard is also thinking of putting in paid changes like going beyond the barbershop thing they added, guess once blizzard does this you will see more and more people paying for things.

I won't, i don't see the point but their are tons of people willing to pay for stuff so why wouldn't a company go with it, their goal is to make as much money as possible.

i see a lot of old school gamers freaking out over this stuff more then the new gamers hell i've been playing games for ages lol...anyways i used to get mad about all this stuff but now i realise there's no point in it, i'm either gonna have to adapt if i wanna keep enjoying games or stop playing them...it is sad this is the future of gaming but i enjoy gaming too much to give it up

Terrible comparison Scalebane.  Blizzards card game actually gives your a phsyical card.  It cannot be played inside the MMO and the cards cannot be sold for gold, traded as in game currency that can be purchased with real life currency.

I think Blizzard is walking a slippery slope by introducing in game items through their card game, but the are all 100% cosmetic and do not take away from any players chosen ingame profession.  Furthermore you can see clearly what SOEs motives are and that is to turn their subscription based customers into additional revenue sources with real money transactions. 

You can see it in EQ and EQ2 as they are starting to add xp potions, real tangible game effecting items and so forth.  They are taking baby steps to see just how far they can push things as a trial run. 

 

I hope all the data they are gathering is wrong, because they have perhaps the largest base of players who will accept whatever mistreatment a company can dish out and this blows up in their face when they launch the agency, free realms and dco. 

 

However this is a very bad and dangerous precident being set.  Lets not try to belittle it by saying how ineffective these items are and how harmless this practice is.  We all know what this is building up to.  People who are trying to downplay this are just not being honest about the potential effects this will have on the future of gaming. 

sure about that? i'm pretty sure i seen packs of their TCG on the local walmart card area...guess ill have to look at that again.

Are they really marketting it towards kids? i mean seriously how many kids actually play p2p mmo's, not very many from what i have seen, they are all in the f2p mmo games.  Since they couldn't even buy this stuff without their parents then isn't it the responsibility of the parents to not let them have any TCG cards?  I personally love TCG's i've played many of them, went to tournaments, seen very very few kids, if any at all and they weren't playing the card games...people say SWG doesn't have very many players right? so how are they selling the cards to kids then, how many kids are gonna be playing swg?   

I don't really think this is about companies selling tcg cards is it, i think people are freaking out  that the future of this genre is to pay for everything, who knows i don't...i go on the WoW forums and see people willing to shell out cash for everything, can't blame the company for going with it, it sucks and will probably drive me back to single player games but i doubt these TCG's will be shutdown.

Even if they do anything about them, they will just make them follow an age limit to buy them and parents will just buy the cards anyways.  

All these TCG's have special cards people go crazy buying boxes/cases for should we shutdown all TCG's?

People tried to sue pokemon and say it was gambling, the case was thrown out of court from what i understand. (been trying to find out for sure what happened thought, but apparently it didn't go anywhere)

Scalebane  12/02/08 11:40:54 AM

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Happy New Year!

Originally posted by Suvroc
Originally posted by Daffid011

However this is a very bad and dangerous precident being set.  Lets not try to belittle it by saying how ineffective these items are and how harmless this practice is.  We all know what this is building up to.  People who are trying to downplay this are just not being honest about the potential effects this will have on the future of gaming. 


 

I have to agree with this.

I believe they're easing people into it. By making these items only mildly effective now opens the door for people to become increasingly comfortable with paying for items - and therefore encouraging people to become more accepeting of items with greater effectiveness in the future.

I believe this because if it were me (and I had no scrupples) this is exactly how I would do it.

i will agree to this though, but as for me defending anything i'm defending TCG's in general, because if they start regulating because of some special cards all TCG's will take a hit and that will piss me off, if people can't handle their gambling problems then thats their problem, others shouldn't suffer for it, if parents can't regulate what their kids do then tough shit, they failed don't punish everyone else.

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