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xpiher  12/02/08 3:43:59 PM

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Originally posted by GiveMePvP

Originally posted by xpiher

 



Originally posted by octa
 
Bull.  Complete and utter bull.  My god, does noone see what this is?  Their stock price is abyssmal, they are starving for investment capital and no bank is going to give it to them in their current state.  This press release is just to try and drum up what little hype they can before they go around asking for a bailout.
How are they going to tackle the need for such a large installation?  How about the graphic requirements?  Bandwith?  They haven't got a clue on how to deal with any of it.  Gaute, before he left, was pretty honest about all the hurdles they had to face with an XBOX port.  Of course he kept it out there, what company wouldn't?  Finally, the loudest evidence of this vapor ware bullcrap is the silence from Microsoft.  You would think they would want to promote something like this, wouldn't you?



 
Look at the stock market from mid August to now. All stocks have been tanking. Now look at FC stock in August and compare it to the 5 year average, its right on point.
 


 
Yea. Clearly Funcom is doing great and investors have huge confidence in the future of the company. It's just that damn Global Recession that made the stock hit rock bottom. Damn you, Global Recession!!!
If you are so sure, why not buy Funcom stock. Sounds like easy money to me. Go for it, man.


 
My point is that the stock market sucks for all companies right now and NO ONE IS INVESTING IN ANYTHING. A company that is small and had a rocky mid year is going to be hit worse than a juggernaut. Blizzard, before WOTHLK was released was down about 10-18% if I remember correctly. The only stock improving are companies like Walmart. If you compare FC August stock price to now you'll see that its down about 25%

BTW I am buying FC stock, even if it tanks I'll be out 300 bucks. If it is bought out I'll make money if it goes up I'll make money. Sounds easy to me.

 
noggy1980  12/02/08 3:57:13 PM

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Originally posted by xpiher

 


Originally posted by octa

 

Bull.  Complete and utter bull.  My god, does noone see what this is?  Their stock price is abyssmal, they are starving for investment capital and no bank is going to give it to them in their current state.  This press release is just to try and drum up what little hype they can before they go around asking for a bailout.
How are they going to tackle the need for such a large installation?  How about the graphic requirements?  Bandwith?  They haven't got a clue on how to deal with any of it.  Gaute, before he left, was pretty honest about all the hurdles they had to face with an XBOX port.  Of course he kept it out there, what company wouldn't?  Finally, the loudest evidence of this vapor ware bullcrap is the silence from Microsoft.  You would think they would want to promote something like this, wouldn't you?



 
Look at the stock market from mid August to now. All stocks have been tanking. Now look at FC stock in August and compare it to the 5 year average, its right on point.

 


 

Hillarious, can you really be serious? your saying if you ignore 40 of the 50nok stock drop funcom isn't doing worse than anyone else, hardly a surprise if you ignore 80% of the issue it doesn't look as serious.

 
Halandir  12/02/08 4:03:09 PM

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Originally posted by xpiher
 
... If you compare FC August stock price to now you'll see that its down about 25%

 

Ok lets compare... FC mid august: NOK 22.50 - Now: NOK 2.97 

Hmm yeah just about 25% - quite a performer

Oslo exchange (Click the "English" top right and compare all you want - the numbers refuse to lie)

 

 
courtsdad  12/02/08 5:03:59 PM

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Like it or not this is the fruit that AOC/FC gets for the the things that happened at launch. Hopefully every CEO/major investor is paying very close attention to what happened here so that they dont repeat the issues that cause people to never want to trust a word that comes from anyone mouth that is connected with FC

Whether thats "fair" or not is up to the individual but reality is that gamers tend top give you one shot. If you are straight forward with them then you may get a second chance. If your PR/marketing department have zero people skills and your investors have no idea what it takes to make an MMO that the public will flock to and the time required then you are equally screwed.

Look thgrough the negative posts and you see over and over "lies" and "incomplete".  And while we can argue that no MMO is ever complete AOC set the bar for a great IP and not being anywhere close to launch. We are just now enetering the territory where they should have been at launch.

 
Elsabolts  12/02/08 5:09:36 PM

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Originally posted by courtsdad

Like it or not this is the fruit that AOC/FC gets for the the things that happened at launch. Hopefully every CEO/major investor is paying very close attention to what happened here so that they dont repeat the issues that cause people to never want to trust a word that comes from anyone mouth that is connected with FC

Whether thats "fair" or not is up to the individual but reality is that gamers tend top give you one shot. If you are straight forward with them then you may get a second chance. If your PR/marketing department have zero people skills and your investors have no idea what it takes to make an MMO that the public will flock to and the time required then you are equally screwed.

Look thgrough the negative posts and you see over and over "lies" and "incomplete".  And while we can argue that no MMO is ever complete AOC set the bar for a great IP and not being anywhere close to launch. We are just now enetering the territory where they should have been at launch.


 

Good post, No Excellent Post, the only thing i will add is that Funcom is still in hype mode and its to little to late.

 
courtsdad  12/02/08 5:12:41 PM

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Originally posted by Azrile
Originally posted by GiveMePvP
Originally posted by Crashloop
Originally posted by Jefferson81
Originally posted by AmazingAvery


 

Ah yes because he is supporting the game he must work for funcom...

By drawing that conclusion I think I can draw the conclusion you are an idiot too then? :)

Oh and WMD stands for Weapons of Mass Destruction, and no I don't think you can get one :P

 

There is a difference between supporting a game and being a crazy fanatic who thinks Age of Conan is like a religion and who takes every single negative comment personally.

Regular gamers find faults in every game they play, even the ones they love. Some people here seem to post positive propaganda about Conan all day long and try to discredit posters who are critical about the game. These people clearly have some kind of hidden agenda. What that agenda is, we can only guess. Funcom employees, paid corporate shills or just plain old psycho. You pick one.

These "wars" we have here are laughable. If you enjoy the game, why not go play it and leave the "trolls" here to complain? If I had an MMO I was playing right now, I wouldn't be here posting. Why do the fans of the game feel like they need to defend their game on a forum 3-6 hours every day?


 

But the opposite can be said of trolls.  Why troll a game if you don't play it.

The fact is that the only two real zealous supporters of AOC are both from Norway.   There is something more than 'love of the game' at work there.  Either it is 'employed by funcom', 'friends of developers (Avery), or just people with a lot of national pride, trying to support the home team.


 

Some people "troll" game sthey dont play because they wanted them to succeed and they want people to be aware of who they are dealing with. Look at the WAR forums for many examples of people who have left yet still post there. Its not unique to AOC.

If I were to post my thoughts on WAR in the WAR forum I would instantly be called  a fanboy because aside from the occassional crash when flying to a capitol city ( dont know why its that flight only) I have zero problems with the game. People post these gigantic problems with their computers performance and yet I have so few issues that they dont even register on the scale.  I have a good server, a moderately sized guild, my classes seem to work pretty well and there is always something for me to do when I get on.

And yet there are many people over there that would scream I was stupid or a fanboy. Of course just as in here there is a big difference between someone who likes the game and someone who puts out pure propoganda. Just as there is a difference between someoen who has a hatred of the game and someone who has "issues" with the game or how its run. Both have their place.

 
indiramourn  12/02/08 5:31:29 PM

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Originally posted by Azrile


 But the opposite can be said of trolls.  Why troll a game if you don't play it.


 

A Troll post is not necessarily a negative post about a game.  For example, I have always considered all of Avery's posts as troll posts because they have no objectivity.  Hyperbole in a post, either negative or positive, makes it a troll post.

And why troll a game if you don't play it?  As a hobby, of course.

 
arkady09  12/02/08 7:48:39 PM

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Originally posted by CobraSolidus
Originally posted by octa

Bull.  Complete and utter bull.  My god, does noone see what this is?  Their stock price is abyssmal, they are starving for investment capital and no bank is going to give it to them in their current state.  This press release is just to try and drum up what little hype they can before they go around asking for a bailout.

How are they going to tackle the need for such a large installation?  How about the graphic requirements?  Bandwith?  They haven't got a clue on how to deal with any of it.  Gaute, before he left, was pretty honest about all the hurdles they had to face with an XBOX port.  Of course he kept it out there, what company wouldn't?  Finally, the loudest evidence of this vapor ware bullcrap is the silence from Microsoft.  You would think they would want to promote something like this, wouldn't you?


 

Is this an advanced way of saying that the close to 6 Mill $ operational profit FC made in Q3 somehow has been stolen? And yeah I look forward to when Microsoft will start to market for FC. lol


 

They pulled that money out of the second quarter and Im surprised thats not illegal.  BTW thats not what the report said.  You obviously cant read a quarterly report.

GiveMePvP  12/03/08 2:55:49 AM