General Discussion

Originally posted by declaredemer

The interesting thing about McDonald's is that they are not in the burger business, per se, but the commercial real estate business.  McDonalds knows where, and when, to lcoate a store by looking at demographics, location, trends, and many other factors.  It then allows the franchise, or gets its own store. 

 

 

Everyone reading this could make (a) better and (b) cheaper burger - and serve it better as well!

 

 

The sticky location, commercial, and business matters would trip people up.

Have to disagree with ya there. I can not keep all the ingrediants to make the burger cheaper than McDonalds $1.00 double cheeseburger. Even buying the meat would probably be over a dollor. Sure it is better to cook your own though.
 

Fast food is all disgusting. I don't see how anyone can eat that crap. look at the FDA's list of stuff they have found in the meat. Condoms, syringes, bandaids.... hope you guys that eat this stuff enjoy that crap. I don't even buy preground meat. I buy a new york strip or ribeye( preferably grass fed soo much better quality of meat) and have them grind that up for me in plain site to make my burgers... season it with garlic, onion, lemon pepper and other yummies and toss it  on the grill.. now that is a burger, That ground up BS should not even be called food.

I find it really amusing that 95 percent of the responders in this thread either chose to IGNORE the OP's attempt at trolling, as it was obviously intended to be a slam to World of Warcraft with the purpose of starting a flame war, OR.....they missed the analogy intent entirely.

I would LIKE to think that the MMORPG population is actually very bright and just decided to be funny and reply with comments having to do with the LITERAL interpretation of the OP's post, as a way of telling him, "Piss off....we're not playing your flame game."

Having said all of that........

McDonald's might not be health food, but a lot of people GENUINELY LIKE IT.  OP (or any other hater that seems to think THEIR opinion is the only one that matters), who made YOU the God of Gaming?  I'm just curious.  For that matter....who made you the God of Hamburgers?  People are individuals.  They all have different likes and dislikes.  The fact that they don't agree with YOU, does not make them wrong or less intelligent.  It makes them true to their OWN views.

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I buy a new york strip or ribeye( preferably grass fed soo much better quality of meat) and have them grind that up for me in plain site to make my burgers...

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You bring up a question and a comment here.

How does one know its really 'grass fed' other than reading "GRASS FED" on the label? Can you really know for sure? I know tasting probably makes a difference but by then, its too late and you've walked out with the beef. Unless you lived close to ranchers, I don't know how could be positive. Kind of like 'natural spring water' from the freshest springs. (see: tap water)

The comment: All this hamburger talk makes me think.. I LOVE burgers, but did anyone ever see those pieces on how they actually transport beef from place to place? I saw one where they had a guy run a load of garbage from NY to middle america someplace, dump the crap. Then they quick wash the truck (I mean QUICK) and run get a load of beef to run back to NY.

I generally eat most things without thinking, but just sometimes it makes me think of giving up meat; or at least growing my own cow.

Originally posted by deviliscious

Fast food is all disgusting. I don't see how anyone can eat that crap. look at the FDA's list of stuff they have found in the meat. Condoms, syringes, bandaids.... hope you guys that eat this stuff enjoy that crap. I don't even buy preground meat. I buy a new york strip or ribeye( preferably grass fed soo much better quality of meat) and have them grind that up for me in plain site to make my burgers... season it with garlic, onion, lemon pepper and other yummies and toss it  on the grill.. now that is a burger, That ground up BS should not even be called food.

Like Bruce Willis said in Fast Food Nation, " We all have to eat a little shit sometime."

No, a burger that costs 5X as much at a real resturant tastes better.  But for $4.50, my favorite combo meal at any fast food resturant is a Big Mac Meal.  I'll drive an extra few minutes past a Wendys or BK because I like it.  

I don't think you can find anyone thats says any fast food is THE BEST.  But for the price and time it takes to get it, its BETTER than sitting down at Outback or Chillies.

According to market economics, McDonald's does make the best hamburger.

But that's because economics equate the best with the profitable; an assumption that isn't grounded upon anything proveable.

Now I've talked to several McDonald's employees at the corporate level, since their HQ is near where I live (Oak Brook, IL).  Something that becomes apparent as soon as you talk to a McDonald's person is that these people are very aware that McDonald's has become the poster child for all the ills of a mass society, and have worked tirelessly to change opinions about the integrity of the brand.

People have argued that McDonald's is an American imposition on other cultures.  McDonald's recognizes this, and tries to offer culturally-specific menu choices to counteract this criticism.

McDonald's has oftentimes been the object of horror stories given to American schoolchildren: "you'd better shape up or you'll be working at McDonald's" is a stigma and a stereotype that McDonald's is fully aware of and trying to change by offering better working conditions, compensation, and opportunities for employees to advance themselves.

There's the perception out there that the food is unhealthy.  McDonald's is fully aware of the criticism in "Supersize Me" and is trying to offer healthier choices.  They are also aware that when people think McDonald's, they think of 'assembly line' quality.  They are trying to change that perception too by offering items that not just meet, but exceed expectations from 'fast food.'

Take the specialty coffee, for example.  I know a couple of people that worked on the coffee project, and they spared no expense in trying to bring a product to market that can stand toe to toe with the best specialty coffee in the world.  The specialty coffee at McDonald's is so good, even 'food snobs' prefer 'McSpresso' instead of Starbucks.

There is a lot that's wrong with multinational corporations (like SOE), and McDonald's is far from perfect.  But I think McDonald's is better than most, because they listen and try to address criticisms by making McDonald's better instead of simply doing a PR blitz.  They are better than Wal-Mart's 'we're big, we pwn all, so STFU and deal with it' attitude.  You don't hear much "how can we make mo' money?" stuff from McDonald's people.  It's all about "how can we make McDonald's better?"

I wish we had that sort of attitude in MMO development, because I think it would lead to better games.

Originally posted by Fraugnutz

No. Its crap. But millions upon millions of people still stuff their faces with it...curious isnt it?

Not at all, it's perfectly logical.  Because the question is not who makes the best burger, the question is who's burger is the best value and the most convenient when they want to eat a burger.  And the answer to that question more often than not is McDonalds.