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1/07/12 8:18:21 AM#281
{mod edit} 1: Aesthetics: It definitely takes alot more then just pretty painted walls to impress the rest of us. The characters are static and hardly move until a cinematic sequence, there is NO life on the planets (no critters running around), the character customization is laughable as you will most likely look exactly the same end game as every other class of your type. No dyes to speak of. Non-essential NPC's are statues, never walking anywhere and when you click on they they say pretty much nothing. The only saving grace this game has is it's cut scenes. 2: Gameplay: they did a warcraft style combat system with a global cooldown, that's boring. People have seen that a million times. There is no real home instance to speak of accept a limited and laughable ship, no consequential open world pvp, the auction house doesn't work, and they used the Trinity, their crafting system is entirely too expensive for below standard items, armor that's more like WoW's heirlooms doesn't cut it when you do end game raiding, the issues that every mmo has had ever with GCD abilities that don't fire at all when clicked or hotkeyed. Why would i play this game again? Oh yeah the light sabers. Zero space combat to speak of, even tho the title has always had it throughout their movies. 3: Innovation: This should have been a 2. There was nothing new accept choices that gave the character story a different path at each story point. Nothing was done end game to make the character's story aspect of the game continue beyond level 50 and the story really only effected the companions and not the environment. There were no worldly events, no random events, nothing to play accept a strict line of events to choose from and nothing more. It was simply a themepark style questing system with voice overs. Not even the ship changes in any significant way after you've made choices. The ui was the same as all others I've seen in other mmos. It's missing many features we've all want as standard or expected in mmos. 4: Polish: While it can be said they didn't have much crashes let's look at the whole picture shall we. They had serious server population issues from the start that could have been fixed via making sure that there were servers waiting for what the makers of the game knew would happen on launch day, instead they booted people kept people from signing up and generally did alot of appologizing. Surely someone there is an mmo gamer and someone could have told the executives that launch day is a serious challenge for any company so they could have been much more prepared. Not to mention, a recent rash of multiple obvious bugs in their game should have been caught long before launch day that were basically completely ignored for which the players are now having to suffer for. Invincibility anyone? Just dance. 5: Longevity: You are kidding me?! an 8? Riiiight. They are definitely going to have to release more then a single instance to keep fans from leaving this thing. Really the only end game content is pvp, and raiding. We've all seen that multiple times before. Not to mention the age old and failed system of gear treadmill. Getting onto a game just to have to grind out gear is no longer fun, that style of mmo was really just a boring in game work now and people haven't enjoyed that since the year 2000. Seriously it was dead five minutes ago. The least they could have done is made it more like RIFT however i get it that they didn't really have time to put out new currencies and dynamic world events, they only had 4 years. 6: Value: Definitely NOT a ten when you look at all it's end game problems. It's not worth the $15 a month to play because it pretty much halts end game. There isn't enough content to fool with after level 50 and adding a single instance really isn't going to make it worth the time. They told the fans what "We'll release it when it's ready" well part of being ready is having enough content when players hit end game level. 7: Social: Typical set of communication tools nothing new. However most of the quests in the game do not support multiple players. They are simply solo dialog questing without groups. Not much to do together as you do most of your quests as a solo player, which as an avid solo player i do like, however this is an mmo and you should be able to group up with other players and do the regular quests. 8: finally calling this game great is just a farce and the public should be told the truth minus the fanboi response or the paid to make it look better response of the websites like these. |
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tryklon
Advanced Member
Joined: 7/17/06
"The flow of time is cruel...its speed seems different for each person, but no one can change it..." |
1/07/12 8:20:26 AM#282
Originally posted by Zekiah In all honestly I can tell you right away whats wrong on this industry. Your perception of it... Apparently you are wrong on your assumptions of how other people feel. |
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1/07/12 9:21:15 AM#283
To the people who said they have not talked to people in days, thats because you need to join a guild, most people now a days join a guild and get to know them.. Also we use teamspeak to talk not game chat because most of the time its filled with 12 years old screaming chuck norris.
So if you wanna chat to people get in a guild, thats what there for.... I have grouped a ton... So for those saying there is not grouping, BS, there is flash points heroics etc, you get points for grouping as well, and they gear is pretty decent, I reached social 4 from grouping..
So if you are not grouping or talking to anyone its your own fault, Bioware is not gonna hold your hand to talk to others or group, its there so stop saying its not, because thats a lie... |
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1/07/12 9:24:14 AM#284
ROFL there is plenty of world boss fights explore................................................... You people make me laugh . You can't solo flash points and some of the heroics, you can't either... Sounds like your doing just some of the easy heroics and solo stuff, again your fault..
Look around stop following the path of your main story, there is plenty of side quests that give you better stuff to do OPEN YOUR EYES. |
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1/07/12 9:30:27 AM#285
Originally posted by Distopia There's no need to presume your action ingame to know what any player, you included, can or can't do in game. The above are simply facts. First you agree UI frames can't be moved around. It's not about needing it or not it's about can you or not do it? Answer = no => lack of polish (1) Then Seems you also admit there is not UI scaling. *see (1) AA will be implemented in the patch 1.1 *see (1) Camera angles are too often annoyingly off. Maybe you don't notice but trust me they are. *see (1) For PvP the fixes on Illum also comes in the patch 1.1 *see (1) Now for the for force side side points, lost emails, companion affections: hlad you didn't experience them still don't go on the SWTOR customer's support you might be surprised at how many players got them and some still are. And for the record as many of these players I also experienced it. As I had fun with the broken group chat for some time. |
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1/07/12 9:44:57 AM#286
I disagree with the polish score.
Rift felt polished to me, this game doesn't come close. The technical issues are far outstripping any enjoyment at the moment - this is on a machine that played WoW, Aion, Rift with a lot of reliability and stability. The bugs that have remained after beta are also annoying.
The UI is awful and this from someone who never customised in WoW with mods. The chat box always seems to be in the way and the bars are too small.
Social chat is horrendous, half the time I can't even whisper friends.
Overall, it feels so clunky, unresponsive and laggy. It's hard to explain, maybe it's just my pc/conn but other games just felt so much smoother to play without fighting the UI. |
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1/07/12 10:36:06 AM#287
These scores seem off...a 9.5 polish? The game has A LOT of bugs. Sure, early in the game its not noticable, and bioware is tossing out bugfixes...but still, there is no way it is polished to 95% of perfect. I couldn't even finish my class story for a while because the entire thing was broken, people rubberband in pvp warzones, a hand full of the flashpoints radnomly bug out causing you to restart it, the game still needs optimization, the ui is horribly flaky, ai is buggy ect. These are all polish issues, and sure the game is more polished than other big mmo releases like war or AoC, but no way is the polish that good. The game should get around a 8, but a lot of these scores seem a lot higher than what they should be. World pvp non existant, only 3 warzones, horrible UI, bad responsiveness( I run a gtx560 ti and i5 2500k, so don't bring up my computer), horrible auction house....I wouldn't even call the crafting system crafting.... all it is, is a lootbox on a timer. I'm currently playing thro my story casually, but some of these scores are questionable, and if you read thro the review, the numbers don't even seem to match up with what the guys saying at certain points. |
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1/07/12 12:20:19 PM#288
" Not to mention the game’s worlds are large " compared to what an ant hill? I mean come on, SWG worlds were 5-10 times bigger than SWTOR's so how in the world can you say they are large. They just are not! A more accurate description of their Worlds would be small at best. I just disagree with 2 of your scores. Innovation is at best a 4 or 5, they introduced very little to the genre, borrowed most everything from other games. I will agree they improved on some things like the questing so probably should be a 5. Secondly your longevity score is very wishful thinking. Unless someone is a real altaholic, getting a few characters to max level is not going to take that long and there is just very little stuff to do at end game. The lame crafting and spaceflight design do not help at all in that regard. Again I would put it at 5 at best. Remember EA is well known to cutting off development funds once a game is out. Adding lots of new content is not something EA is known for. All in all a good game to replace the winter blues, but you will be looking for something new by spring.
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1/07/12 12:39:28 PM#289
First Let me say that I haven't played SWTOR. Second, let me congratulate Deewe for the real review made by him. I think MMORPG should have a column called "Reviews with a different eyes." where you could make reviews like this to other games. Third and last: I wounder what rating will MMORPG give when GW2 gets out. 14/10? |
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1/07/12 1:21:58 PM#290
Originally posted by Morcotulcon To be fair my post lacks, at least, the answer to 2 very important questions:
All in all Is the game FUN? While TOR is far from perfect and the polish is uneven, it is indeed a FUN game. Still the poor UI, the unappealing character customization and the stinky space sim hinders the whole experience, a lot. How about long term subscriptions?
Now here's what I wrote on the beta forums some time ago: An Humble take on SWTOR road to keep subscribers.
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Worstluck
Novice Member
Joined: 1/29/11
No man controls my destiny... especially not one who attacks downwind and stinks of garlic. |
1/07/12 1:27:36 PM#291
I am having a good time playing the game, but I don't think I would give it an iota more than an 8 in it's current form. Maybe 7.5. It has potential to be better, I mean this is the Star Wars universe here, tons of things to add and different directions to take the game. But there are bugs, pvp does pretty much suck, and the linear aspects and kill 30 bad dudes quests are wearing on me. The combat is a blast though, and the class stories are fun.
It's different than War or Rift for sure. I would say overall this game is crap ton better than WAR was when it was released, however even broken at the time, the PvP was leaps and bounds better (when I wasn't CTDing, and stuttering). Rift seemed to have far fewer bugs and felt like a slightly more 'finished' game when it came out. Personally I am enjoying this game the most out of those three merely due to it being Star Wars and the RPG aspects are more to my liking.
Anyways....score is a tad high :)
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1/07/12 1:50:42 PM#292
Originally posted by Morcotulcon We have a section for user reviews that is open to anyone. To give feedback on moderation, contact community@mmorpg.com |
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1/07/12 2:58:02 PM#293
Originally posted by Shadanwolf I think there are a few places in the middle East that have your 24/7 persistent realm vs realm conflict. |
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1/07/12 3:02:47 PM#294
There isnt enough max levels players to have persistant world pvp yet. sorry there isnt. my highest is a 31 and i play alot, im not like some of u who power level through content to hit 50 in a week. in fact most tor players are like me then those that rush to 50 To be honest with u this a good review and the worlds are huge, tatooine for instance is the size of northrend on its own, dont belive me go run it without sprint on. i just started alderaan and its a big world also. im sorry but those sayign the worlds aren't huge havent left starter worlds. even droumd kaas and coruscant are pretty damn large.
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1/07/12 4:10:05 PM#295
Am I at mmorpg.com or onlinerpg.com ? In the terms of a mmorpg, SWToR is a 0.0 . It has no charaterisc that ressemble an mmo and shouldnt even be listed on the site inmy opinion. |
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1/07/12 5:48:36 PM#296
Originally posted by mav1234 yeah i played it the last 6 months. I agree on the ui but let me tell you this ive played lotro for over 4 years that was my main mmo but i got sick of thier lies and grocery store. I post about fixing pvp constantly and in 4 years they still cant do it. I post about pvp on swtor and the game isnt even out a month yet and this is what i see below. Btw i tested it on the test server its pretty dam good but i do agree that longevity is the key if they put more bases to take on other planets and do more it should be fine. I just dont like this "review" for a game not even a month old yet. Then on top of it they give me an infraction/warning for asking about it lol ok............................ http://www.swtor.com/community/showthread.php?p=1276185#edit1276185
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1/07/12 6:00:51 PM#297
Looking at all the fixes in 1.1 update, i find it weird the level of polish the reviewer talk about, since he played b4 that patch. Anyway, ppl r having a good time, and any1 can now look at user reviews and make their decision. Still waiting for a more inovative game, tho. |
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Joshua69
Novice Member
Joined: 9/12/06
It''s not the fall that kill''s you. its the sudden stop at the end.... |
1/07/12 8:31:24 PM#298
Good review, dead on pretty good. haters gonna hate, but all in all, it is very fun |
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1/07/12 8:38:18 PM#299
yeah its pretty cool i just wish they had least gave it a month though... |
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1/07/12 9:13:06 PM#300
great review! i cant wait to play it! |
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